Pot in Poland for tourists

Remember these very wise words ,"It's not me that is worried about me getting busted, it's my friends with big mouths that worry me about me getting busted."

#1 Rule growing - You don't tell ANYONE nor do you show ANYONE.
People like to brag and show off their crop and that is how they get busted and ripped off.


Seriously ? I hope you don't use Miracle Grow fertilizer too.
jon > grown outside in someone's field
Until the military is out practicing maneuvers at night in September with their infra red imaging.
Ganja has a definite different shade of color then other plants do so they stand out like a brick sht house in a fog using infra red imaging.

The military helicopters have fun G.P.S.ing these plants, give the exact coordinates to the police so they can stake the plants out with surveillance cameras.

Then add the other factors in of thieves, animals and insects eating it, molds and lack o water. (They take lots of water)
And jon, you are correct again, the smell is a huge factor as the devil's weed reek's to high heaven and also about the potency of todays weed versa what we smoke back in college 40/50 years ago that was enjoyable.

Personally I like knowing what day it is without such stress and drama in my life.

Fortunately not so much in Poland. I've come across one person boasting about it; he was taking quite a risk, in such a small community as his.

One good thing in PL is that there are plenty of remote places for people to grow, and farmers are often quite secretive anyway. If people get caught growing, you just don't hear about it much.

Sometimes people do take risks though; there was a part-completed house near me where there was an obvious grow happening a couple of years ago. The smell of the green plants was unavoidable to anyone passing the house. This was in a 'good' suburb of Warsaw. It only lasted a few days; I suspect the smell made them harvest it early.


Way too strong nowadays, compared to the stuff years ago that was generally imported/smuggled.


In the UK they don't bother any more. In cities, the risk is that criminals use drones with heat cameras, looking for people growing in order to rob them.

The quality suffers if you pick it prematurely and it doesnt have a good tase either, but it will do something. I had to harvest early once because of a cold damp autumn, before the mold started growing. Ya, that year stunk...

I use a jewelers loupe to look at the trichomes and when they turn from brown to clear, its the height of theTHC level. ( time to pick)


Growing outside is much better and the plants get huge:)

I never told anyone either, No way!!


Interesting. Its become very high tech since my growing days... Ever use FoxFarm soil?

This smelt like it was almost ready. I don't know what sort of lights they had, however they certainly didn't have much ventilation.


I'd love to grow some, however our terrace is very overlooked; it just wouldn't be worth the risk, even with smaller plants.

There are a few dealers in Poland who sell online; the risk is whether or not you'd want your address on their computer when they get raided.

Joker
I would never grow in Poland. I just don't think it's worth it. Maybe a few plants for personals, but weed is pretty cheap so it's better to just buy it imo because if you get busted even with a small grow op you're ******. This isn't the USA, Canada or even W Europe. You're looking at doing time in a place like Rawicz or some other miserable prison where they make the USA's SHUs look like a Marriot.


Spending a few extra on bulbs isn't going to make a huge difference. As long as you have high watt bulbs and are feeding your plants well, checking the ph and **** you'll be fine. And no, i don't use any miracle grow or fertilizer or other **** unless i absolutely have to and that i def won't keep for my own smoking sash.

Absolutely, the Ocean Fox Farm is a little hotter then the Happy Frog Fox Farm even though the Happy Frog bags are a little bigger.

If you want buds that weigh over an ounce each use the Ocean.


Actually the height of the THC is when the head of the trichome has a big clear ball on it that just before it starts turning color. IMO

They make charcoal exhaust system that block 100% of the smell if you want to spend the money.
In the old days the plants that were grown outside with that Afgany seed produced over a kilo per plant.
The plants were like 13 - 14 feet tall.


Obviously you are a novice as you are totally wrong.
In vegetation to start a "Grow" Metal Halide bulb (first six weeks at 18 hours a day) is designed with sunlight spectrums that will not only stack the limbs closer together to make your plants very bushy so you don't have Charlie Browns sparse Christmas trees. FACT.

The brighter the better and the bulbs designed for it's purpose is well worth the extra money.
You are a business man and know what MOR is. (Money On Return)
So you spend an extra $100 on good bulbs and they produce six to eight ounces of one ounce sticky buds per plant compared to two or three skimpy buds with workshop bulbs. (Money well spent)

And don't start your clones to close to the plant or you will burn them up. Those halide bulbs run very hot.
Then in the last six weeks you flip your timers back to (12 hours per day) and use a High Pressure Sodium bulb that is designed to have the sunlight spectrum of the blues and reds that the Halide lights don't have.

These colors are need to make those big heavy buds.
It is a twelve week process from start to finish if you know what you are doing.
So I hear from my friends that have grown under lights for fifty years anyways.
I know I wouldn't begin to take the chance to grow in Poland with such laws.

Sensible, especially when you can get it cheaply enough from those out in the countryside who do.

Exactly, support the local economy and this is why the police should turn a blind eye to some guy trying to feed his family.
Growing weed is a hell of a lot of work if you do it right.
@joker
Have you ever tried Mills fertilizer ?
That is what the majority of commercial growers in Colorado are using, a little pricey but again, well worth it.
My friends swear by it because it is mostly organic and gives your product a smooth flavorful taste.
Most the other fertilizer products are made up of chemicals making your herb taste like dog ****.
When someone sparks up a doobie and it starts to crackle and pop and has a dark ash you know they used chemicals to grow it.

Not good for an older persons lungs.
You want to have a nice white ash from it.
As an old Jamaican Rasta once told me back in the 60's........" Always carry the buzz in your head and not in your pockets."

Thats the problem with growing indoors that skunky smell during flowering. You can spent a fortune on a charcoal filter exhaust system to add to all the other equipment you need. The best way for me was...Around the end of April, after germinating the seeds put them in plastic cups under a 100 watt CFL bulbs for 24/hrs a day for about 6 weeks. Make sure you always a low setting fan blowing on them to simulate the wind, so the grow nice and strong. They should be around 8 to 10" tall by mid May and ready to plant in pot, garden etc..... You may want to crop the tops of them so they will grow bushy instead of tall for stealth.


No, its been several years since Ive done any gardening...lol I remember Foxfarm, it was like $40 a bag, but it had all the nutrients it needed.

Do they have those Brew and Grow places by you? They kind of masquerade as a home beer supply store, but when you get inside theyre a bunch of hippies selling hydroponic and grow lights. lol

Now that its legal, its like who cares anymore.


I stopped combustion a few years back as well. I have a dry herb vape Pax2 ( not cartridge liquid) you just grind up your herb and it vapes at low temperature for nice smooth hit.


They didn't flush the plant before they harvested, you're supposed to stop feeding them a few weeks before and only use water.

I wouldn't even consider trying to grow in Poland. Im sure they wouldn't take very kindly to a Yank growing weed! LOL I rather buy from farmer Greenski :)


I would just stick with your friends to be safe.

I remember, they had some good stuff in Poland. I hope they legalize, it would be a big shot in the arm for the economy.

The dispensaries in Illinois have lines waiting to get in. They charge crazy prices though......

There are CBD shops which sell a weaker kind of weed that's just about legal (or in a grey area). It's quite relaxing and high in CBD which does have therapeutic benefits.


It's a long way off, and the vodka/beer lobby would oppose it hugely.

I use CBD body cream for when I get a sore neck and back, its really helps a lot. There is no high with CBD oil, they sell it everywhere these days. I even brought it on an airplane, they didnt look twice.


Alcohol is far more dangerous than weed.

It's $17 for the Happy Frog & $19 for the Ocean (both made by Fox Farm) and well worth it as it is organic and has been baked so there is no mold spores or bugs in it.

Plus with the Ocean you only have to use fertilizer in your water every other feeding during the veg stage.
It has the necessary bacteria in it so the roots will absorb the nutrients better especially if you add some Great White.
All you need after that is to add 5ml of Cal-Mag (one time) so your plants don't have a calcium deficiency that cause purple veins in the stalk.


There is a huge hydroponic warehouse not far from me that sells EVERYTHING that you may need and I mean everything.
The store is 9000 sq.ft. and is always busy.
bing.com/search?q=the+grow+store+traverse+city&src=IE-TopResult&FORM=IETR02&pc=EUPP_UF03&conversationid=


The last week before you harvest you only use straight water and lots of it to flush them.
This is what a proper grow room needs and looks like if you want to grow the most and best.
thegrowstore.com/climate-control/
This is what my friends tell me anyways.
I sure wouldn't recommend doing it in Poland as that smell of freedom is just to precious.

Are you sure? Jon gave me a very lucrative idea!! Check it out.........lol

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Dude I've been growing since my balls dropped and learned a lot by trial and error even after reading the cannabis growers bible several times. Yes, the lights do matter no one is debating that. However, having 400 watt metal halides and having some fancy metal halides with some sodium or whatever other **** isn't going to make much of a difference especially if your soil is good, your ph is on point, your feeding the ladies well, etc. And no, I'd never use miracle grow or any fertilizer unless it's absolutely necessary to save a few plants and in that case they wouldn't be for my personal stash.


They're a rip off. Only thing i'd buy from them is edibles and carts since the ones sold outside of dispensaries are shady asf. There were a bunch from a brand called "dank vapes" and they were found to have vitamin e as cut and it put a lot of people in the hospital. I can get stiiizys from california but they're priced my dude was charging like 60 70 a little ass cart. I've never been to a dispensary here yet so idk what their prices even are, but i'm sure ill be going to them soon to check em out.

There are people who actually do this here in Poland. Using such services is very much at your own risk. maybe after the Virus, if they dispatch from, say, the Netherlands it might be safer.

That's like snapchat dealers. A very bad idea imo especially now with the virus. If you're going to buy online i'd use deep web markets, they're pricier than street price but at least it's safer imo than snapchat. And they have good hallucinogens like actual lsd-25/lsd-50 and not some bullshit 2c-x type research chems passing them as acid. Too bad silk road got shut down = /

There is a dispensary in Jefferson Park that sold my buddy 3 carts ( only 0.5 gram per unit) and a special vape pen.......$240!! The carts are like $65 a piece and then the state excise fee and regular taxes.. The prices for flower are just as bad, if they have stock? Card holders get preferential treatment and they save the flower for them. Its oo much money over $400 and ounce you could pay $150-200 on the street, same quality...

Oh yeah, if you buy 2 carts you get the special pen for free....

Exactly... it's not worth it especially not for flower. Edibles and carts maybe, but really only carts because at least you know you're getting something legit that doesn't have that vitamin e acetate **** that's been ******* up people's lungs.

Yeah that's what the stiiizy ones are - .5g carts. I pay like 60-70 for them which is a huge rip-off. The dank vapes are 35 for a 1.1 g cart but I stopped buying them after some people were on the news saying they got the same brand and it ****** them up. Thank God I didn't get it - some people ****** up their lungs really bad and apparently permanently.

The dispensary carts taste really nice, but doesnt last very long with the tiny tanks they have. Everything they sell has too be produced in Illinois. I would like to get some some carts from Colorado or LA. Until then, Im sticking with the flower from the black market..lol

I had some of those Dank carts and Supremes when they first came out. They are all over the place.

So you are admitting to still being a novice then.
Dirk I have friends that have been growing since before you were twinkle in your Daddy's eye who still can't grow a carrot in their back yard.

That makes your high school intimidating statement pure b.s.


You are a novice no doubt about it.
Your Sylvania 400 watt that you bought at HomeDepot for $9.99 to be used as a shop light is of no comparison to a 400 watt Hodilux blue metal halide $109 that produces the brightest white sun light there is.

ebay.com/itm/401919854280
(Growers only use 1000 watt bulbs anyways, both metal halide in veg and high pressure sodium in flowering)
See the difference is that the light designed to grow will make your plants bushier with more branches closer together and stack the nodes.
This will produce more buds and three times bigger buds which equals three times more weight per plant.
You claim to be a business man so you know what MOR is. (Money on return)
Now do you understand that spending a few extra bucks on a good bulb to triple your MOR is worth while.
(Three ounces per plant vs. nine ounces per plant)
All that you know about growing weed is what you have googled.
Now lets cut the B.S. and get back on topic which is, 'Pot in Poland for Tourists.'

I wouldnt consider over a decade experience to be novice. A master or professional? No, i dont grow as my main profession. But im well aware of how light affects the plants. Idc about spectrum or the price, the end result is what matters and 9 oz or even more isnt difficult to average esp w indica. To me its a marketing gimick. Its a white light from a powerful metal halide bulb either way. Sure maybe that few shades whiter spectrum will make a difference and give me a few extra gs. So be it, I could also vacuum that off my couch if im a few gs short of a half p.

And speaking of Poland and pot, i wonder what the laws are for having just wild plants in your garden or whatever like as feed for birds and rabbits. My grandparents had it growing like that for years but the last time i visited them they were gone.

The few first times i bought in poland i couldnt helo but laugh. This was before weed became popular like it is now. Dude would ask how much you want - quarter gram, half gram, gram? Im like wtf quarter g half g you expect me to call you each time i roll a blunt? I want an 8th at the very least. He didnt understand 8ths or quarters - next common amount up is a 5 g bag. Weird how weed culture differs like that. I guess because of metric system. It was good bud though like ive never really had bad bud in poland except for what grew in the wild but thats to be expected. It was the same kind of dro as in the usa. Brown/tan hash is also pretty popular, or at least it use to be.

An interesting question. I was having a video chat with a very old friend back home last night. He has a very very large amount, mostly fill, but high quality. Well stored, though obviously it'll dry a bit with time. He was wondering what to do with it, and how best to use during the crisis.

He's in a mid size provincial city with a market that's more much affluent than Poland though (like Poland) not a place to sell shatter, dabs, oils and vape cartridges (he makes all of those). Also hashish, though that doesn't sell well there. Looking at interesting ideas right now. He also make medical grade oil, though the people who need that most don't tend to have the cash to buy.

Normally he shifts stuff wholesale, however The Plague means that's dried up completely.

Any ideas?

You mean you are asking us to offer advice on how he should sell large amounts of pot when the traditional sale has plummeted?

Or just what to do with it. I've suggested keeping it carefully for now. I've a feeling though that during lockdown, any fool with the right lightbulbs will be growing something if they think they can get away with it.

Turn it into concentrate oil?

Growing your own is the only way forwards. I have four plants on the go now and more seeds planted. It's a' steep learning curve. Not using halide lights etc as the cops do like to visit here . As it is they are just random seeds not specialist. Still peering at the plants daily trying to sex them.

If any cops do visit I can play the innocent as I also have heaps of other plants like sunflowers and coriander...

Its very rewarding when you spend all that time nurturing the plants and have some killer flame bud come Croptober:)


Big mistake, genetics are everything. I used to have feminized seeds mailed to me from Amsterdam.


Im not growing this year, coz there just legalized it and you can get super good deals off the street now:)

Are you staring them indoors and moving them outside? Im you stay indoors keep a fan blowing on them so the stalks build up strength.

Thanks for the tip joker. I do have them on a sunny windowsill, and open the windows so they can wave in the breeze a bit...the fan is a good idea.

I won't put them out because my block is full of stoners and it's a shared yard.. .

I know specialist seeds would be better but they are like ten pounds each...and this first time is more for education and research. I can get top weed any time...

They are such fascinating plants...can you give any more tips...? Have you heard of eight leaved plants..?.how soon can you really tell if they are girls?

The best windowsill in the flat is the lounge, it's like a greenhouse on a good day..but it also faces the road so they got banished to the kitchen. Also good light but not as good. More of a definite dark time though which I have heard us as essential as the light.

I will keep you posted...if I let them grow naturally through the summer would I harvest in September time?...oh as you said..'croptober' ha ha

I say they're not special seeds but they are from the kind of quality weed that normally has very few seeds...does that make a difference....?

Why on earth would you expect someone from mainland Europe to under stand eighths and quarters anyway. Duh.

@Joker
@rozumiemnic

I didn't realise that we had so many dope growing experts on here..... :-)
30 years ago I would have asked for your advice but had a bad experience with one ultra strong spliff and have not touched the stuff since.

And I gave up smoking 5 years ago too.
Nah, it's alcohol all the way for me now..... :-)