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E36 from Germany to Poland - possibly the worst stretch of tarmac in the World?


Morrisey 3 | 7
18 Apr 2015  #1
Hi,

Does the E36 out of Germany into Poland still shake your fillings out or has it been resurfaced? It's been two years since i last used it and don't relish the thought of more self inflicted torture again this year. : )
JollyRomek 7 | 481
18 Apr 2015  #2
Does the E36 out of Germany into Poland still shake your fillings out or has it been resurfaced?

It is still the same Morrisey and there are no plans to resurface it until 2020. I believe there has never been any work done on this stretch of motorway since the Germans build it in the 1930's.
OP Morrisey 3 | 7
19 Apr 2015  #3
Thanks for the info JollyRomek. : )
JollyRomek 7 | 481
19 Apr 2015  #4
No problem.
What is strange about that stretch of motorway is that the lanes leading the opposite direction towards Germany have been resurfaced. But apparently for the direction leading from Germany there was no budget. Some people say that the local council has decided to leave it the way it is on purpose.
Wrocławian
19 Apr 2015  #5
Actually, the history is rather like this. The Germans originally built the south carriageway as a 2 lane Reichsautobahn in the late 1930's, but the other carriageway wasn't completed. From Krzyzowa to Wrocław, it was built with 4 lanes, but in a rather cheap and poor way.

After the end of WW2, Poland simply left the A18/A4 as it was. The section from Krzyzowa to Wrocław was resurfaced in the 90's, but not done particularly well. That left the A18 in the current state.

In 2007, they reconstructed all the bridges on the route, as well as building the (missing) north carriageway. It wasn't resurfaced, but built completely new.

But apparently for the direction leading from Germany there was no budget. Some people say that the local council has decided to leave it the way it is on purpose.

Nothing to do with local councils, rather the GDDKiA. As the south carriageway must be completely torn up and rebuilt, it will involve essentially building around 70km of brand new road. The GDDKiA would rather focus on getting other connections finished first, particularly the S3 and S5 in Dolnoslaskie and rebuilding the A4 from Krzyzowa to Wrocław.
JollyRomek 7 | 481
19 Apr 2015  #6
In 2007, they reconstructed all the bridges on the route, as well as building the (missing) north carriageway. It wasn't resurfaced, but built completely new.

Thank for that! So does that mean that before 2007, the lanes leading towards Germany were non-existent? I used that motorway first in 2010 so i have no comparison to what it looked like before.
inthe128
20 Apr 2015  #7
When i first started coming to Poland in 2004 that road in was a normal single lane road, I would say around 2007 they built the road that is now heading to Germany which is 2 lanes and the old road became a dual carriageway into Poland so its the old bumpy road coming in and the nice smooth road heading out


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