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Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries


Lyzko 24 | 6,765
13 Feb 2017 #151
Look, Sweden's a Protestant country, hence inherently accepting of things which would doubtless offend "religious" Poles, Italians, Spaniards etc.

While not personally "offended" particularly at the Swedish article either, I've considerably more experience in Sweden as well as with Swedes than with Poles, therefore, my reaction to it was more "There they go again!", pushing the proverbial envelope as to precisely how much can one tolerate without defining certain limits:-)
Ironside 48 | 9,892
14 Feb 2017 #152
Look, Sweden's a Protestant country

In old Europeans protestant countries they consistently confuse legal with moral. Small wonder that in Sweden left took over to go into self-denial and self-hate.

What Markel wanted from Poland? I guess - support in exchange for ...?
Lyzko 24 | 6,765
14 Feb 2017 #153
Not sure I see the connection between "going Protestant", self-hatred, and denial, but then maybe I'm a little slow:-)
We haven't all got your lightning intellect, IronsideLOL
mafketis 21 | 7,458
14 Feb 2017 #154
My point was more that if someone finds the pics of Swedish politicians offensive then they should also oppose Polish women being forced to cover hair in Vatican.

False equivalence. The Vatican is as much a religious establishment as a country and Dudowa and Dudówna are actually Roman Cathol8ics, so following church doctrine (when visitng the church).

None of the Swedish women were muslim and Iran is not a giant mosque (in theory) but modern Muslims seem to be determined to make non-muslims follow Islamic law as much as possible.

Examine Iran's record on religious freedom before justifying their nasty government's behavior....
nothanks - | 640
14 Feb 2017 #155
my reaction to it was more "There they go again!", pushing the proverbial envelope as to precisely how much can one tolerate without defining certain limits:-)

Folding like a lawn chair at the first sign of opposition - is pushing the envelope? Looks more to me like typical modern feminism (and liberalism) talk big against (White) Western men and then excuse other men's behavior (no matter how barbaric) as "exotic cultural norms"

But the failures of current day feminist (Women's march the other week) shouldn't over shadow what a dumpster fire Sweden has turned into. As someone with supposed Swedish connections - is there any hope of not only reversing but even halting this nose diving collapse? I dunno if Swedes are just incredibly gullible or brainwashed to self hate. From the rapes, to the government sponsored race mixing AND Swedish culture hating propaganda. Its something the most limp dick German would be impressed of

And yah, meanwhile Western feminist are partnering up with Islam. What a time to be alive.
mafketis 21 | 7,458
14 Feb 2017 #156
meanwhile Western feminist are partnering up with Islam

Modern (3rd wave) feminism is largely a retreat into the traditional feminine role of social arbiter. Endless drama about micro-aggressions, appropriation, inclusion, safe spaces etc are just updated versions of 1950's coffee klatsch club women (very roughly Betty Draper in the first season of Mad Men) and their cutthroat status competition....

Being taken seriously by western men is uncomfortable and so many women are looking for some kind of excuse to retreat to the home and escape the glare of public life and islam does that for them. The determination with which European leaders facilitate the increase of the muslim population is not happening in a vaccuum - it's what a lot of political leaders (and some supposedly feminist women) want.
Lyzko 24 | 6,765
14 Feb 2017 #157
In the name of "progressive liberalism", Sweden, along with Denmark and Norway, often test the tolerance of continental Europeans used to a less in-your-face forms of social interaction.

Allowing small children to slowly develop their own identity rather than be exclusively "tied down" to traditional roles is a fine idea in an of itself. On the other hand (as I experienced while living with a family during the '80s in Denmark), permitting house guests to fornicate right in front of foreign company without either warning or apology, I find more than just a trifle much!

lol
Wulkan - | 3,251
14 Feb 2017 #158
Allowing small children to slowly develop their own identity

Indeed, for example when the child feels like a T-rex trapped in the body of a little girl.
Lyzko 24 | 6,765
15 Feb 2017 #159
Sarcasm aside, sir, all I meant was that there is good and bad in permissiveness:-) The latter example, of course, is not desirable.
Spike31 2 | 884
14 Jan 2019 #160
Yellow vests in Sweden:

Independent politician Morten Källström asked why Sweden looks like it does today, with politicians who neither speak of the problems nor do something about them. "It is because we have no democracy. Our country is about as democratic as the former communist states of eastern Europe. We need politicians who dare speak up and state their opinion"

Strong opinion from Swedes who are know for being very [very] moderate. When Swedes are starting to [peacefully] rebel you know that the problem is real.

voiceofeurope.com/2019/01/swedish-female-yellow-vest-speaker-put-feminism-on-hold-for-10-20-years-and-reinstate-the-patriarchy/
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,720
14 Jan 2019 #161
Our country is about as democratic as the former communist states of eastern Europe.

This has been my line forever. I should be paid royalties.
WE is a mental gulag. The only difference: nobody gets shot and there are is no barbed wire. Your women just get raped, but that is OK with the de-testicled Western men.
Lyzko 24 | 6,765
14 Jan 2019 #162
Sweden has become a bastion of liberal dictatorship, almost like Germany, in which opposing views are automatically dubbed racist ad nauseum, even before the person has had a chance to air their views entirely! Even in the Parliament, one can hear "Lass ihn/sie doch ausreden!" = Just let him/her talk! repeated numerous times.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,720
14 Jan 2019 #163
This why I no longer feel sorry for the women in Sweden who were raped because they live with the spineless, ball-less weasels - their husbands and brothers who are also rapists' enablers and co-conspirators - and never raise hell about the situation. Probably, just cry and pray.
Lyzko 24 | 6,765
14 Jan 2019 #164
In the US, the definition of rape has been traditionally "penetration", there need not be any completion of said act. Violation is sufficient before the law.

Not sure any more whether the above applies to Sweden as well or no.

When I was first in Sweden as a student during the '80's, the country was just coming out of the heady '60's and late '70's and so the atmosphere was probably completely different from what it is today, For one thing, there was little to any "globalization" yet in Sweden, I stood out like a sore thumb..until I started to speak.

After that, I was dubbed a plain freakazoid and the locals, particularly the men, looked at me as though I had two heads and a third eye growing out of the middle of

my faceLOL

After a few seconds, they generally calmed down and we proceeded to get along famously:-)
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,720
14 Jan 2019 #165
In the US, the definition of rape has been traditionally "penetration"

My definition is simpler: if a woman is physically overpowered or threatened because she is a woman - that's rape. Penetration, ejaculation, and crap like this don't mean nothing to me. Even if the guy is dickless because an IED blew it away, it's still rape.


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