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Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries



Lyzko 17 | 3,637    
13 Feb 2017  #151

Look, Sweden's a Protestant country, hence inherently accepting of things which would doubtless offend "religious" Poles, Italians, Spaniards etc.

While not personally "offended" particularly at the Swedish article either, I've considerably more experience in Sweden as well as with Swedes than with Poles, therefore, my reaction to it was more "There they go again!", pushing the proverbial envelope as to precisely how much can one tolerate without defining certain limits:-)


Ironside 44 | 8,292    
14 Feb 2017  #152

Look, Sweden's a Protestant country

In old Europeans protestant countries they consistently confuse legal with moral. Small wonder that in Sweden left took over to go into self-denial and self-hate.

What Markel wanted from Poland? I guess - support in exchange for ...?
Lyzko 17 | 3,637    
14 Feb 2017  #153

Not sure I see the connection between "going Protestant", self-hatred, and denial, but then maybe I'm a little slow:-)
We haven't all got your lightning intellect, IronsideLOL
mafketis 16 | 4,721    
14 Feb 2017  #154

My point was more that if someone finds the pics of Swedish politicians offensive then they should also oppose Polish women being forced to cover hair in Vatican.

False equivalence. The Vatican is as much a religious establishment as a country and Dudowa and Dudówna are actually Roman Cathol8ics, so following church doctrine (when visitng the church).

None of the Swedish women were muslim and Iran is not a giant mosque (in theory) but modern Muslims seem to be determined to make non-muslims follow Islamic law as much as possible.

Examine Iran's record on religious freedom before justifying their nasty government's behavior....
nothanks - | 663    
14 Feb 2017  #155

my reaction to it was more "There they go again!", pushing the proverbial envelope as to precisely how much can one tolerate without defining certain limits:-)

Folding like a lawn chair at the first sign of opposition - is pushing the envelope? Looks more to me like typical modern feminism (and liberalism) talk big against (White) Western men and then excuse other men's behavior (no matter how barbaric) as "exotic cultural norms"

But the failures of current day feminist (Women's march the other week) shouldn't over shadow what a dumpster fire Sweden has turned into. As someone with supposed Swedish connections - is there any hope of not only reversing but even halting this nose diving collapse? I dunno if Swedes are just incredibly gullible or brainwashed to self hate. From the rapes, to the government sponsored race mixing AND Swedish culture hating propaganda. Its something the most limp dick German would be impressed of

And yah, meanwhile Western feminist are partnering up with Islam. What a time to be alive.
mafketis 16 | 4,721    
14 Feb 2017  #156

meanwhile Western feminist are partnering up with Islam

Modern (3rd wave) feminism is largely a retreat into the traditional feminine role of social arbiter. Endless drama about micro-aggressions, appropriation, inclusion, safe spaces etc are just updated versions of 1950's coffee klatsch club women (very roughly Betty Draper in the first season of Mad Men) and their cutthroat status competition....

Being taken seriously by western men is uncomfortable and so many women are looking for some kind of excuse to retreat to the home and escape the glare of public life and islam does that for them. The determination with which European leaders facilitate the increase of the muslim population is not happening in a vaccuum - it's what a lot of political leaders (and some supposedly feminist women) want.
Lyzko 17 | 3,637    
14 Feb 2017  #157

In the name of "progressive liberalism", Sweden, along with Denmark and Norway, often test the tolerance of continental Europeans used to a less in-your-face forms of social interaction.

Allowing small children to slowly develop their own identity rather than be exclusively "tied down" to traditional roles is a fine idea in an of itself. On the other hand (as I experienced while living with a family during the '80s in Denmark), permitting house guests to fornicate right in front of foreign company without either warning or apology, I find more than just a trifle much!

lol
Wulkan - | 3,184    
14 Feb 2017  #158

Allowing small children to slowly develop their own identity

Indeed, for example when the child feels like a T-rex trapped in the body of a little girl.
Lyzko 17 | 3,637    
15 Feb 2017  #159

Sarcasm aside, sir, all I meant was that there is good and bad in permissiveness:-) The latter example, of course, is not desirable.




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