What do Poles think of how they are treated in Germany, in comparison to the Muslim migrants

Charlie and Steve should cleary declare who they advocate for.

Bellyaching ...oh, how awful...should be left for grandmas...but only after they agree that Israel's existence is not negotiable.

That's why I dismiss all that sentimental crap from Russia and Putin haters about civilian casualties. Who gives a fvck when both Israel and Russia are threatened by numerically superior enemies.

"Oh, look, a dead little girl...So cute..." is the worst demagoguery ever...

So fvcking what...On that basis, Germany would own the Soviet Union.

Your use of the expression far-right " clearly indicates you are a left-crazed and fringe commie loon. Don't you think people of all kinds may have had enough of Israel's slaughter of toddlers left, right, and center, and nobody gives a damn? Oh, anti-semites, they hate Israel. Well, you hate Hitler and Nazis, too. Does that make you a bad person?#
I found in your red book of a Progressive Warrior for Justice on page four, it clearly states - those who criticize Israel are anti-Semites and are as evil as Nazis.
So, your theory is much more impressive than reality. I get it. According to your book, you are a hero and warrior; according to reality, you are yet another shmondack. I feel you, brother.

That is slander. You can be sued.
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Were there any British Jews in German camps? I might as well say that Poles never stole anything from the Spanish Empire. Lol!
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What guilt? What are you projecting? I don't feel any guilt. You can kiss my ass.
As for the most anti-semitic, Germany takes the prize right after France; they are always the best! Also, we had 3.5 million Jews. Do you know any country that has as many Jews? I don't.
Also, Jews don't love Poles in general. It's not like a one-sided crush, and the other side is just unmoved. It is mutual. So can it, who are you to preach? You loved your Irish, didn't you?
You had three Jews in total, and you still hate them. So shut up!
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What are you worrying about? In any European country, you have the same story. Poland is no different, nor is Britain much different.

Some Jews are Poles, some Poles are Jews


Around 50,000 British people at that time were of the Jewsish faith.


No it isn't, no he can't.

Figuratively speaking, we are not discussing statistics here, as you should be aware. Was it three, was it 50,000, compared to the population, size of the country, Poland had a lot, and you had a negligible number and still hated them. That is my point. Jinx on you for being petty enough to force me to clarify it.
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It is. Don't annoy me! I know better.
As to whether he can be sued, I'm not sure. I could always try.

Or location.


Yes. Many Poles were of the Jewish faith.


Not negligible. No life is negligible.Every life is of equal value.


It isn't. Check the precise meaning of the word "slander". This isn't voice chat, nor is it about individuals.

Fine. Forums are about talking, in a form of writing, if you know what I mean. OK, I guess for defamation, but I'm not sure I can without knowing his real name. But still.
Should it be - Fora are about ...?

Both are good. Fora sounds classier.


To say thay appalling crimes were done by individual Poles or groups of Poles does not defame all 38 million though.

Most did not steal homes, rob graves or burn people.

Some did, however that doesn't reflect on everyone.

A nice idea in theory, but it never works that way in practice..... leftists lose their sh{t about Palestinians but completely shrugged off recent massacres of Christians and Druze in Syria


I've been involved in journalism and if it's written it's libel, if spoken it's slander.

US law formerly (not sure of current status) writing something that damaged the reputation of someone else was libel period.

Defenses of libel included:

public figures with reduced expectation of privacy

truth status of what was written

Writing that John Doe was arrested for selling meth from his vape shop business is libel but if that is the case then it's not actionable.

I can't imagine any government taking anything written here seriously enough to press charges (and jurisdiction for the internet is not really settled).

You could file a suit, but the judge would toss it as baseless (as he doesn't say "All Poles" or name particular Poles he claims did it).

I doubt many leftists (or rightists or the centrist majority) heard about it. Palestine and Israel do PR well and there's only every room for one Middle East crisis at a time.


That's how it is in England and Wales. Except there it can only be named individuals, not a group, and the person must be alive. To prove libel there must be hatred, ridicule or contempt" or the encouragement thereof.

That's enough?

That would mean nearly every good insult would be forbidden and punished! 😐

Exactly.

I wouldn't even be able to call Alien a volksdeutsch without some idiot accusing me of inciting hatred on the basis of ethnicity.

Down with this kinda thing! 😐

That depends on whether or not it's published in the media and has caused provable harm.

If nobody cares or it's in the public interest, it's not an issue.

I remember Iron calling me a "Kraut" (ridicule) a few years back here on PF (media), I felt harmed (proven by me) .....can I sue him? 😎

No, since nobody cares, neither party has a connection to England and Wales and in any case, you ar are unlikely to have suffered provable reputational harm.

Plus, there's the defence of truth...

....och menno...

Oh, I noticed it now. That prejudiced talk. According to your progressive textbook, it is racist. You are a racist, Jon, and a British prick.
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Isn't it interesting that most Jewish people in Europe ended up in Poland? They have been persecuted and expelled from every other country on the continent, as well as from the Isles. After 300 or 400 years of persecuting Jews and spreading anti-Semitic sentiments, you come around and point fingers at the only country that sheltered Jews during those hard centuries? I admit you have mastered the art of being shameless, or you are just ignorant hypocrites. Instead of preaching and lecturing, why don't you sit down and learn something from your betters? eh? know your place.

He didn't make that distinction.
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@Ironside

Hardly negligible. Triple the number of Roma currently in Poland (17,000) - another group Poles hate, in their expansive pantheon of bigotry.

If Brits "hate" or "hated" Jews, why did Britain once have a Jewish-background prime minister, why did the only attempt at a British fascist party get so completely rejected by society (look up the 'Battle of Cable Street', for one thing) and why has Britain not had any pogroms in the last 500+ years or more, whereas Poland has had them in living memory? Grzegorz Braun would start one tomorrow given half the chance - he'd probably have lots of help, given the insane number of Poles who actually voted him.

Talking of "hating people but only having a negligible number of them in your country" is particularly hilarious coming from a Pole, given that you are all completely petrified of and hate Jews, Muslims and black people despite having about seven in the entire nation. Do you really want to start on that topic, all things considered?

Also, please try and sue me for 'slander'. I know that's the term all Poles immediately jump to whenever anyone says anything vaguely negative about your country and people, but the idea of you actually trying to formally prosecute someone for it is the funniest thing I've heard all day. Maybe you can try and apply PiS' laughable 'kodeks' designed to deflect any mention of Polish complicity in the holocaust? Good luck! You may continue off-topic in the Random Chat thread.

Poland did after all keep substantially shifting borders every few years.


The only country in Europe never to have had any anti-Semitic legislation ever is a constituent part of the U.K.

It's hard to imagine racist booklets with titles like "Meet the Jews" being sold in kiosks in Western Europe.


A very fair point. And of course the events of 1968 were arguably a pogrom.

I remember an acquaintance saying he'd bought a loaf of chałka. I said "Ah, Jewish bread". His (angry) reply was "No! There's nothing wrong with it!""

Sure, and you, Brits, love everyone bahhahaha. What are you trying to pull, you idiot? Gypsies are not particularly likable, are they?? Still, they are doing well. What's your beef? Are you aiming at thought control?
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Sure, it is nothing; there is more than a weekly intake of boat people in Britain, and as it has been proven, rich liberals and some losers love them. All the rest of the indigenous population, not so much. I get it, you are jealous, you are overrun, and you wish that plague on another nation. You're petty!
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Oh, I'm not racist, I have a back friend trope. Don't be ridiculous, you are embarrassing yourself. We don't even know who has a Jewish background. boo!
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He is cool. Interesting dude. He will never get a lot of support. He is too eccentric for Polish people.
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Look, lies, BS, and fake news should be looked down upon. So persistent liars like you should be brought to justice. Simple.
Do you have a problem with it?

Geopolitical key postion on the continent does it to you. Borders fluctuate in the rhythm of power.
Living on an island, on the arse end of Europe, you are mostly left to your own devices.
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You had hardly any Jews after 1200 or something.
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Because a chance by your average person in Britain to actually meet a Jew was less than being overrun by a carriage.
You might as well have a booklet - Meet a little green people.
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Creative writing does it to you.

Be fair! Braun gives the appearance that he'd start a pogrom this afternoon given even a quarter of a chance. And he apparently wouldn't be too fussy about where or against whom. He seems to be equally comfortable with the prospect of leading one against whatever Jews he can find in Poland or against Muslims in Germany.

If you feel wronged, I can come up with a few other suitable nicknames. Interested? lol!
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How long have you been in Poland? That is not what he is about.

Yeah, right.

Polish right-wing MP douses Jewish menorah with fire extinguisher

Grzegorz Braun was kicked out of the parliamentary session for his stunt

politico.eu/article/grzegorz-braun-poland-parliament-jewish-hanukkah-menorah/

You've obviously never been to Redbridge, Hendon, South Manchester, North Leeds or parts of Glasgow. There are three times the number of synagogues in my medium sized provincial town than in Warsaw.


How many do you meet in Poland? Yet I've seen those racist books in the kiosks...


And during that time, many minorities came under Polish rule.


He is an obnoxious and abrasive prannock, currently pretending that the r*SSian drones that came down over Poland were a 'false flag'.

Now, I'm talking about it in historical perspective. There are still not that many Jews in Britain even today.
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What minorities? If they hadn't been under the protective wings of the Polish Crown, there wouldn't be any minorities, nor Belarus, nor Ukraine, nor the Baltic states. Then, after they got these nationalist ideas in the 19th century, they all turned on Poland and peddled lies, oversimplification, and pure nonsense about it.
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Extinguished a few candles, no particularly holy. They have no place in the Parliament. What is a big deal?

More than Poland.


What a load of rubbish.


Attacked a religious symbol that was there legally and correctly.

Indeed, and we have to deal with it.Takes the patience of a saint. Even some foreigners buy into their sad stories for children.
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Symbol my ass.