Here is a link to a book you guys might find interesting: onet.pl/turystyka/onetpodroze/polacy-zdradzili-ciemne-strony-zycia-w-norwegii-smierdzisz-jak-polak/3263dsb,07640b54
@Kashub1410 Poles abroad are treated as they allow themselves. A Polish worker who does not speak a word in a foreign language, but instead reeks of sweat, cigarettes and vodka is treated differently to a Polish graduate of a foreign university who speaks fluently in several foreign languages, who, moreover, does not stink but smells good perfume.
@Alien I generally agree, just that this book points it out that it's not the case. There is a far more collectivistic view of people in Norway, negative side of stereotypes dominate the good ones. So even a person with higher education is treated as a possible criminal just cause of surname on a mailbox etc
@Kashub1410 Yes, you are right, it is ethnic or race bias. We recently fired an employee from Cameroon because he was unfit. Everyone thinks, however, that we didn't want him because he was black, which is not true
@Lyzko It's due to ignoring the fears of many native Swedes. Similar to Trump effect in U.S.A, by sidelining certain elements of society and not combating the issue at hand (by stating it's not an issue) a radical turn happends.
Similar to ignoring plight of the workers by capitalist factions tend to push low wage workers or unemployed to the left extremes
Shows how tenuous indeed the foundations of democracy actually are, if the latter can buckle at the slightest challenges, doesn't it. This then is the real danger that decades of well-intentioned, if ultimately misguided, liberalism can easily imperil apparently a shaky base.
Therefore, what does the current reactionary movement in Sweden indicate about the fundamental humanism and tolerance of Judeo-Christian society? Quite scary from my perspective if the latter can be nearly destroyed by the storm tides of intolerance and certain groups feel they are underrepresented by their homeland.
During the Second World War when the world often far more severe challenges, Denmark, The Netherlands, and Sweden seemingly rose valiantly to the occasion, there being zero public talk at that time about personal inconvenience, as each individual nation submerged their own needs for the common good.
What pray is the "common good" these days? Seems we've become extra cynical and less magnanimous, or as I'm fond of saying, life itself has turned from a gift to a given, in which society now expects instant gratification and is unwilling to make the requisite sacrifices to ameliorate social ills.
Who should have "thought about that earlier", Maf? Not clear on which side you stand, sir. Hopefully not on the side of the Trump-supporting naysayers who've given up on the sacred covenant with their very Constitution as soon as times get tough!
Who should have "thought about that earlier", Maf?
those proposing 'multiculturalism'.... it's kind of a losing philosophy....
the sacred covenant with their very Constitution as soon as times get tough!
nothing about multiculturalism in the Constitution... and I was thinking about Scandinavia which is not bound by the US constitution
immigration needs to return to the model of assimilation... (or acquire that in the case of Scnandinavia....) if the old country was so crappy they had to leave there's no need for immigrants to try to recreate it in a new place
Yet as times change, so too must we, right? The US at the time was faced with a permanent North/South division, damned near about to rend our nation into a two-tier society, a veritable Haiti from then on into an uncertain future. However somehow, Lincoln put personal prejudice aside and forged ahead to unite the country for sheer practical purposes.
Seems to me, we've become terminally lazy, indolent, and worse, self-indulgent, ready to give up basic freedoms for the "common evil" of prurient expedience, no matter what the price.
We've yet to figure on the final price TAG of a second Trump-style presidency!!
Unfortuntately, our country tends to vacilate from one extreme to the next and at the rate things are going, before long, that is, within the next several years, we'll have that Marjorie Greene monster sitting in Nancy Pelosi's seat and Rick De Santis (Trump can no longer run) merrily whittling away at Social Security until the next "revolution" makes Jan 6. look like a piker!!
You can't measure European standards by American dimensions.
Entirely predictable since the mainstream parties refused to engage with real and valid voter concerns about things like immigration....
As one Swede put it, Sweden doesn't have many jobs where a new hire can get by with initial poor language skills (England and Germany are far better at that in the EU) but it is very good at trapping people into intergenerational welfare dependence
Also, the policy of multiculturalism and cultural preservation for immigrants mean most immigrant parents pass on their culture shock trauma to their children which prevents them from assimilating and being able to succeed.
None of this is relevant. If 10 million black Ph. D.s spoke fluent Swedish, should they be allowed in? Foreigners are poison to the locals and, like arsenic, can be tolerated only in very small doses.
That should be the decision of Swedish citizens... I can't think of any country in the world where a majority wants endless large scale immigration - but political establishments are addicted to the idea for lots of dumb reasons..... (and some sinister ones as well, but... mostly dumb reasons).
Which is why voters have "turned to the right"... if only one party offers something voters want for long enough then that party will eventually do well once voters want that enough too
Poles abroad are treated as they allow themselves.
That is a BS. It doesn't work that way. People like you are rather stupid people full of themsleves. That cann't see reality for what it is..
That way it works locals see minoritiy of people from a certain gruop acting out and often discribe them a norm for that group. That in general. Norway is a very strange country with their eugenic, gov nazi like racial programs with very all central organizations meddling deeeply into people life.
When order were given - no racism - they just learned how to tick proper boxes but it doesn't really have deep roots. In they unnis they have those reserched skewd to show how evey other counrty is raicst in their little box ticking contest that had been invented for the reason.
Disliking foreigners goes beyond racism. I moved away from the Polish ghetto to be as far away from them and their language as possible to make sure my kids do not soak up any of that.
Bringing foreign "culture" in is like dropping pythons into Florida Everglades.
Xenophobia always seems the easy answer, folks. Whether it's raving Hitler or "reasonable", telegenic David Duke, it's all the same rotten disease of rejecting cohabitation and after thousands of years, we still haven't learned G-d's lesson, hiding behind hypocrisy as we all do soooo well!
Nothing to do with "phobia". If nature or God meant for dissimilar people to live together, every country would have some of each.
With that plan from hell in place, there would be no native cultures - from books to movies to religions. And the most important of it - the tribe unity to fight off external aggressions.
Only an idiot would risk his life to protect and defend illegal scum or any foreigners.
No, it was not the motivation because it was clear from the beginning that work was not why they would travel past other places and continue all the way to Sweden..
They were invited because the woke are girlie morons and as such unable to say "stay the fu*ck away" as this would be impolite. A girlie man would rather see his wife raped...
My point, if you missed it, is that Sweden is run by girlie spinless woke men. The rest is merely a consequence.
Poles should never be complaining about how they are treated in Sweden because they should have never been allowed to set foot there other than for a short vacation.
Good enough?
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