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How do Russians truly feel about their great leader?


Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,173
31 May 2021 #1
Let's find out 👀

va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_q5hme53s9f1u9229x.mp4

I hope the KGB isn't already on their tails.....
Novichok 1 | 4,144
1 Jun 2021 #2
Clearly, they are not as much in love with Putin as the Germans were in love with Hitler until the last days of the evil empire.

albany.edu/jmmh/vol2no1/fatalattraction.html
Joker 2 | 1,958
1 Jun 2021 #3
I wonder how badly Putin is going to embarrass the braindead Biden? Its going to be another sad day for America for sure.. Miss Trump yet? I do!
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,770
1 Jun 2021 #4
The Russian people are very lucky to have Putin as their leader. Definitely a huge improvement over Yeltsin and a good role model for other leaders. If only the US and the western European countries had a leader with some balls for a change.

I wonder how badly Putin is going to embarrass the braindead Biden?

It's funny how bad the white house staff and the leftist media tries to hide all his stuttering, forgetfulness, mumbling, etc. Putin isn't a young guy either - he's almost 70 yet extremely sharp.
Novichok 1 | 4,144
1 Jun 2021 #5
The Russian people are very lucky to have Putin as their leader.

Poor sucker who started this thread will soon be very sorry. So far, things are not looking good.
That video was staged. Only a blind fool wouldn't notice the camera. Or that "despot" Putin is not so despotic after all.
GefreiterKania 7 | 320
1 Jun 2021 #6
q5hme53s9f1u9229x.mp4

Brilliant :)

A triple blowjob for Putin, here on PF? @Joker @Dirk diggler @Novichok - хорошие девочки :)
pawian 178 | 16,081
1 Jun 2021 #7
all his stuttering, forgetfulness, mumbling,

But Putin will also be like that when he is in Biden`s age. And I can bet Kremlin media will also hide it.. They will even hide it when he dies. They will only reveal the info about his death on the day his mummy is placed in the Mausoleum. Lenin, Putin - eternally alive! hahaha
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,173
1 Jun 2021 #8
A triple blowjob for Putin, here on PF?

The dictator lovers in democratic countries, enjoying their guaranteed liberal citizen rights while praising far away opressors are the worst hypocrites, aren't they!

But the Russians are not so different from the rest of us, just muzzled and muted by their rulers....they won't cry tears once they are gone either.

It's like always, the only ones left sniffling will be those who never had to endure them...
GefreiterKania 7 | 320
1 Jun 2021 #9
The dictator lovers in democratic countries, enjoying their guaranteed liberal citizen rights while praising far away opressors are the worst hypocrites, aren't they!

Couldn't have said it better myself. They make me sick.

those who never had to endure them...

Useful idiots or sh*t-eaters (говноед), as Soviets rightly called them.
Ziemowit 13 | 4,451
1 Jun 2021 #10
@Joker @Dirk diggler @Novichok - хорошие девочки

while praising far away opressors are the worst hypocrites, aren't they!

They are! Under no circumstamces will they allow themselves to be transplanted to Russia to admire their idol from within.

Above all things they will hold on with both hands to the possibility of remaining in the so-called "rotten" West. [Notice that Russian oligarchs will also choose to go to the West to enjoy life!]

A lot of Russian people feel just OK with their leader since they are satisfied with the little stability he offers, particularly in comparison to the times of Boris Yeltsin which were very turbulent on the economic front to the point that many townspeople had been afraid of their very existence.
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,173
1 Jun 2021 #11
A lot of Russian people feel just OK with their leader since they are satisfied with the little stability he offers

Agreed! After the tohuwabohu during the 90's they looked to Putin for stability....can't blame them if I'm honest. It was already bad in the GDR with the de-industrialization and the unemployment but we at least had the money bags of our western brethren to hang onto....

But since 2008 (the financial crisis) the old tools are no longer working and Russia's economy is tanking, the Ruble is falling and nearly 2 million Russians have left for the West. The brain drain especially with the good educated younger people is substantial.

atlanticcouncil.org/commentary/long-take/the-russian-economy-in-health-oil-and-economic-crisis/

atlanticcouncil.org/in-depth-research-reports/report/the-putin-exodus-the-new-russian-brain-drain-3/

It's no wonder that Putin now looks to foreign adventures like wars and annexions to bolster the ranks at home...an old used tool of the trade for autocrats.
GefreiterKania 7 | 320
1 Jun 2021 #12
Putin now looks to foreign adventures like wars and annexions to bolster the ranks at home

Now he arrested an oppositionist on a Polish plane in Petersburg.

wydarzenia.interia.pl/swiat/news-petersburg-zatrzymano-samolot-lot-u-by-aresztowac-rosyjskieg,nId,5269486

wydarzenia.interia.pl/polska/news-rosjanie-zatrzymali-polski-samolot-lot-ujawnia-okolicznosci,nId,5269875

They could have easily arrested him before he boarded the plane, but they wanted an international provocation. If the entire world just boycotted the retards and stopped paying any attention to them, they would have to start a world war or their own people would turn on them.
Ziemowit 13 | 4,451
1 Jun 2021 #13
nearly 2 million Russians have left for the West.

I didn't realize that! It is a lot, but as a percentage it is still lower than is the case with Poland's population.

Economically and politically Russia is on a downward slope, no doubt about it, in particular because the world has changed so much over the recent period. Dictators simply cannot keep up.

tohuwabohu

Is it a German word? My favorite German word of the kind has so far been: papperlapapp!
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,173
1 Jun 2021 #14
Now he arrested an oppositionist on a Polish plane in Petersburg.

He wouldn't have to do this if his people still love him so much, wouldn't he!

Not to mention that politicians generally shouldn't be "loved" and "adored", they need to be criticized and mocked (and fired if they do a bad job).

They are OUR servants, not the other way around!

Is it a German word?

Jewish...some of the best german words are jewish...my other favourite: Mischpoke! Heh:)

but as a percentage it is still lower than is the case with Poland's population.

I think that has alot to do with the freedoms of travel and work inside the EU for Poles since accession....for Russians it's alot more difficult to just pack their bags and look for better shores!

I could imagine should Russia become EU member it would open the gates...
GefreiterKania 7 | 320
1 Jun 2021 #15
They are OUR servants, not the other way around!

That's exactly the point. Too bad they often forget that.
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,173
1 Jun 2021 #16
*nods*

As often as I groan and gripe about our "Merkel-Republic", I'm still totally free to complain about her and her minions at will! :)

And come September she will be gone.....Russians can only dream about it since Putin just helped himself to "eternal leader for life" status!
Novichok 1 | 4,144
1 Jun 2021 #17
They are OUR servants, not the other way around!

hahahahahahahaha!

Try useful idiots...
Velund 1 | 476
1 Jun 2021 #18
"Democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%"
(often attributed to Thomas Jefferson).

Well over 50% supporting Putin, who trying to follow "social contract" that was formulated based on ideas of Petr Stolypin, state reformator, who was killed in 1911 by anarchist terrorist.

So, on any democratic and fair elections, cries and whining of current opposition and pro-Soros youth, brainwashed by sect leaders like Navalny, will be flushed down the drain.

And few quotes from Stolypin speeches for you, have fun.

You gentlemen need great upheavals; we need a great Russia.

Give the State 20 years of peace, internal and external, and you will not recognize today's Russia.

You cannot build a state governed by the rule of law without first having an independent citizen: The social order is more fundamental and comes before any political program.

There are decisive moments in the life of a nation when the necessities of state take precedence over law, when the choice must be made between the integrity of theories and the integrity of the fatherland.

For those in power there is no greater sin than the cowardly avoidance of responsibility.

In politics there is no revenge, but consequences.

Power cannot be considered an end. Power is a means to preserve life, tranquility and order.

Our eagle, the heritage of Byzantium, is a double-headed eagle. Of course, strong and powerful are also one-headed eagles, but by cutting off our Russian eagle one head facing the East, you will not turn it into a one-headed eagle, you will only make it bleed ...

The main thing that is necessary when we write a law for the whole country is to have in mind the reasonable and the strong, not the drunken and the weak.

In Russia, they like to make reforms only because it is easier to hide their inability to govern.

OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,173
1 Jun 2021 #19
"Democracy is nothing more than mob rule,

Do you see yourself as mob?

where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%"

....only for 4 years! ;)

"social contract" that was formulated based on ideas of Petr Stolypin,

I would love to have Prussia back too....but our societies don't work that way anymore!
Velund 1 | 476
1 Jun 2021 #20
Do you see yourself as mob?

I'm free man, and can afford to choose when I need to join the mob, and when I should leave.

I would love to have Prussia back too....but our societies don't work that way anymore!

You need a politician that comparable to Otto von Bismarck by their leader "qualities", and it may suddenly turns out that you really CAN stop anglo-saxon occupation of Deutschland and become sovereign nation again.
Novichok 1 | 4,144
1 Jun 2021 #21
For those in power there is no greater sin than the cowardly avoidance of responsibility.

Perfect. See: Portland, Seatle, open borders, Sweden, Africanization of WE, whites turning into minorities at home,...

Did I miss anything?
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,173
1 Jun 2021 #22
You need a politician that comparable to Otto von Bismarck

Preach to the choir here! :)

it may suddenly turns out that you really CAN stop anglo-saxon occupation

Thing is, not many Germans complain about that....this "occupation" brought on the best years in the history of Germany (sans Prussia during its height and the Hanse maybe)
Novichok 1 | 4,144
1 Jun 2021 #23
this "occupation"

...aka the US military welfare. Money released here can be spent there concept.
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,173
1 Jun 2021 #24
Yeah....there are regions in West Germany which will sorely miss their US boys! :)
Tacitus 2 | 1,337
1 Jun 2021 #25
often attributed Thomas Jefferson

It is actually attributed to Aristotle, and policies have changed a lot since then, especially in its' framework. Mind you, what Aristotle feared not majority decisions per se, but that a majority could infringe upon essential rights of a minority. Any current functioning democracy has implemented safe guards for its' citizen that no political majority can infringe upon.

Our eagle, the heritage of Byzantium,

As a side note, I always found the Russian claim to the Roman heritage kinda hilarious. They never ruled over any significant parts of the former Roman Empire (not even the Easter Roman Empire) and they only ever rose to prominence centuries after Constantinople fell.
Velund 1 | 476
1 Jun 2021 #26
Thing is, not many Germans complain about that....this "occupation" brought on the best years in the history of Germany

In roughly the same way, the time of Putin's rule is remembered by those who managed to live under communists as a time of growth of prosperity and freedom from the ideological pressure of the state. In other words, Russians have never lived as peacefully as they did under Putin, and people of their age cannot be forced to vote for Soros's scumbags. The "sectarians" succeed in brainwashing the young, who have not even seen the 90's in their right mind. We have to slap their hands when they start to run amok.

But - compare per capita debt of Germany and debt of Russia.

Any current functioning democracy has implemented safe guards for its' citizen that no political majority can infringe upon.

It's like flying birds that voluntarily cut their feathers to avoid prevalence over non-flying ones, and as a result became first prey of ground predators. ;)
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,173
1 Jun 2021 #27
Why do you have to blame it all on an old Jew? Does it make you feel better? Is it unfathomable to you that Russians might have different opinions? That they can think for themselves? That they just wish for more options for an election?

Why do you think they are "brainwashed" or "bought" by a Jew? Soros is still stinky rich, he wouldn't have all that money anymore if he would pay the whole opposition as accused.

And if Putin is still so popular why not standing up for free, fair and square elections? He would have nothing to fear, wouldn't he! But he does fear the opposition, doesn't he..or else he wouldn't jail and kill them!

(Frankly, that video on top shows a different Russia....do tell, are all these people there brainwashed and bought by Soros?)

And not at least, in Russia you see a similiar problem as in Germany....if a leader and his minions are to long in power corruption sets in, a swamp develops, the progress of the country is being slowed down to a halt because of lack of new "brooms"...
Velund 1 | 476
1 Jun 2021 #28
That they just wish for more options for an election?

We don't feel that it is necessary to fix something what is not broken and change something that work.

a swamp develops

Compare number of top level administrators who go to jail in Russia and in Germany for last 10-15 years, and tell me where is more chances for "swamp" to develop.
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,173
1 Jun 2021 #29
We don't feel

Excuse me, if ALL millions of Russians would think like you do, Russia wouldn't suffer a brain drain...and Putin wouldn't see a need to terrorize any opposition.
Velund 1 | 476
1 Jun 2021 #30
he wouldn't have all that money anymore if he would pay the whole opposition as accused.

You have to pay just to few experienced demagogues, like Navavlny. And supply them with some money for technical staff. Enthusiastic young shitheads en masse will be free. For some time. Then they started to understand what is actually happening and become deadliest enemies of their former cult leader. We already got first such generation, and it is fun to see...


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