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"the butched launch of cyberpunk" by the economist (Poland in denial again)


Strzelec35 26 | 1,559
17 Jan 2021 #1
copy-paste
economist.com/europe/2021/01/16/the-botched-launch-of-cyberpunk-2077
Tacitus 2 | 1,221
17 Jan 2021 #2
Suffice to say, I was very disappointed with game at release. I have decided to wait a couple of months before picking it up again, hopefully the bugs will be fixed by then, because the story of the game is great.
OP Strzelec35 26 | 1,559
17 Jan 2021 #3
it is too normi status or made to appeal to mass appeal rather than have eastern european or slavic flavor like the stalker games for instance by gsc studio and really was just made to make money rwther than define a genre or be different. on the other hand the upcoming stalker is a game worth getting excited about by a ukrainian studio much more impressive and doing it on a much smaller budget:

gamerant.com/stalker-2-dev-progress-update/
gram.pl/news/2021/01/16/prace-nad-stalker-2-ida-plynnie-znamy-imie-glownego-bohatera.shtml

the whole atmosphere from the way the cars look to houses to trees in the stalker games is eastern european it isnt a series like everything cd projekt red and Polish studios do to mass appeal but to appeal to a specific audience and has genuine feel of eastern europe. it isnt designed just to make money like the Polish software.

this is the true eastern european game worth getting excited about and it isnt made mass appeal to a western audience or made just to make money but to have an actual legacy on the market:

images.gram.pl/gallery/ttsu20200723200715493oyqv.jpg
images.gram.pl/gallery/medq20200723200711121ezhr.jpg
Ironside 50 | 11,036
17 Jan 2021 #4
normi

Being a freak doesn't make you a special or exceptional you are common like a muck. A dumb egocentric with illusions of grandeur. .
millennials
OP Strzelec35 26 | 1,559
17 Jan 2021 #5
so being an ultra is a freak in your sick little mind? you pollacks are the freaks of europe because youre so right wing even trump is a centrist to you. Or what is an ultra if not freaks or non normis? i mean homam i more of a freak than them?
Ironside 50 | 11,036
17 Jan 2021 #6
so being

just get lost with your BS, has anybody told you that you are intelligent and interesting ? Whoever it was just forget it that was a lie.
OP Strzelec35 26 | 1,559
17 Jan 2021 #7
to be honest I wouldnt mind being called or considered a freak. id much rather be an ultra who whether you admit it or not are considered freaks even within right wing Poland than someone like you or a normi. at least they have a passion or something to gang bang and fight for while most people are just corporate stooges and live for greed. most normies just live for capitalism and items or posessions they have no soul and are just bought and sold on wall street. that's why the kardashians appeal to them.

my bad I didnt mean to call you a pollack. I am a polak or Polish myself. But yea I dont want to be a normi and would choose not to even if I didnt have an alternate experience or views or even an awareness most people dont have I would rather go against the grain than be part of wo called society. Thats why the ultras are so interesting because they go against the grain and both authority and society.
jon357 67 | 16,900
18 Jan 2021 #8
butched

Botched?

made to appeal to mass appeal

Following the market. Normal really; they have to cover their costs.
Mr Grunwald 30 | 2,001
18 Jan 2021 #9
Most games these days have a very difficult launch, the larger the company, the greater the expectations and larger push from investors to launch as quickly as possible from fans as well. Just that: buyers expect quality product when launched, and investors want a quick buck and want that quick buck as soon as possible. By both pushing too much, the creative and producing quality of the game is reduced and expecatations usually not met.

So I would rather judge the product after a good amount of patches etc, if the company opens up for it. If the company launches the game, then adds nothing to it afterwards THEN it's 100% only about the money.

That's my opinion anyhow
OP Strzelec35 26 | 1,559
21 Jan 2021 #10
" Following the market. Normal really; they have to cover their costs."

wrong I disagree. they went beyond and beyond covering their costs which by the way due to them doing cheap marketing gimmicks like hiring Keanu Reeves and hiding the demo or other shwdy practices made them cover their entire dev cost just based on pre orders. gaming is a passion and a hobby and not just something to make money. plenty of dev studios for instance make super highly complex games and only target pc users for instance rather than all consoles and two generations at once just to make the kiddies and millenials happy. some companies like the Ukrainian studio gsc games behind the stalker series care about their fans, the market and making a lasting legacy for themselves rather than bring bought and sold on wall street like corporate ****** and shills. you seriously think theyre not greedy pulling stunts like hiding ganeplay or releasing fake demos prior to a software launch and creating a game for normies and the mass market rather than eastern europeans? Why make w game from poland about a dystopian us city full of black people trwnnies and **** when you are an eastern european game dev studio? just makes no sense man follow the lead of gsc games instead.

gamesindustry.biz/articles/2021-01-18-cd-projekt-reds-head-of-studio-disputes-cyberpunk-2077-demos-were-almost-entirely-fake
jon357 67 | 16,900
21 Jan 2021 #11
gaming is a passion and a hobby and not just something to make money.

It's rather sad when adults play video games however I disagree; it's entirely about making money from the point of view of the companies who make and sell the games.
OP Strzelec35 26 | 1,559
21 Jan 2021 #12
Again, you must know little about gaming as a business. There are companies out there who choose not to sell out, not to get acquired, to make a game knowing it wont sell well just to make it because it was the passion of the founder or founding members to make it, etc.

blog.trello.com/keep-that-passion-project-even-if-it-doesnt-pay
jon357 67 | 16,900
21 Jan 2021 #13
you must know little about gaming as a business

By suggesting that business exists to make money? If it doesn't, how exactly is it business?

make a game knowing it wont sell well just to make it because it was the passion of the founde

So a hobby, not business.
OP Strzelec35 26 | 1,559
21 Jan 2021 #14
No still a business just not one where the primwry or only goal is profit wt the expense of dignity. profit csn be w gowl but it doesnt have to be the main or only one. look at non profit orgs for instance they still make money and people have salaries working for such companies but they arent greedy with it or corporate schills.
jon357 67 | 16,900
21 Jan 2021 #15
non profit orgs for instance they still make money

Not if they're "non profit orgs". They just cover their costs and have to use any surplus. Are thee video games makers like that?
OP Strzelec35 26 | 1,559
21 Jan 2021 #16
again, read about the original diablo how it was made. how it was just really a passion project wnd ended up taking off for the company and at the time funding blizzard which was a no name until that game and the warcrafts. they didnt make them even with profit in mind. like the original final fantasy was just a lost ditch effort. by catering to the masses kf nor is in the west it is the opposite approach to what those companies did what cd projekt red is doing is opposite to what respectable game srudios like blizzard or valve have done before they got big. and dont tell me ce projekt red is big it isn't its just a greedy company that makes or made thus far until now a shitload of money but they dont hire a big team because again its a greedy corporwte shill of a company. they also force their devs to do crunch so they dont have to hire anyone new.
Poloniusz 4 | 391
23 Jan 2021 #17
I am a polak or Polish myself.

Nah, you're a virgin slavaboo.



You even admitted in Random you don't go outside because it is too cold for you. Pffft.
OP Strzelec35 26 | 1,559
23 Jan 2021 #18
more lols

gamingroute.com/new-cyberpunk-2077-patch-adds-more-bugs-2/
pawian 176 | 15,323
2 Apr 2021 #19
You even admitted in Random

You should start seeing a difference between regular topics and Random section. As you probably know, random means accidental - everything what people put there might be considered as such. So, if I were you, I wouldn`t treat Random as such an Oracle.


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