Please tell us all in what years Palestine existed as a self governing sovereign nation............. we are waiting..........
'There's No Such Thing as Palestinians': The Ignorant Bigotry of pro-Israel Propagandistshaaretz.com/israel-news/2023-03-21/ty-article-opinion/.premium/theres-no-such-thing-as-palestinians-the-ignorant-bigotry-of-pro-israel-propagandists/00000187-03b9-dde5-ab8f-23bd95600000
Ouch! And that's the view from inside Israel. LOL!
They Say, We Say: The Palestinians are not a real people"The starting point is this: it makes no difference whether Israelis, or Jews, or anyone else recognize the Palestinians as a people.The Palestinians view themselves as a distinct people, with deep ties to the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. Israel and supporters of Israel can neither deny nor wish the Palestinians and their claims out of existence.
There is ample historical documentation showing that a separate local identity among Arabs living in Palestine started forming in the 16th and 17th century, and that a national Palestinian consciousness began crystallizing early in the 20th century, as anti-colonial movements took root around the world. This national consciousness transformed into a national movement and later into a national liberation movement, in large part as a result of the friction between the Palestinians and Zionism, the Jewish national self-determination movement."peacenow.org/page.php?name=they-say-we-say-the-palestinians-are-not-a-real-people
Well, many good points made there.
Is Israel qualified to be a self-governing sovereign nation? Not really.
First, they only exist because they need to be propped-up by the United States Government and religious fanatics on both sides of the Atlantic.
Second, they aren't qualified if you simply use the standard of needing a precedence of self-rule which is being applied only to the Palestinians.
The Romans finally expelled the Jews from Palestine in the 1st Century. That's not a good sign when claiming to be sovereign especially when you also have a long history of other neighboring powers (such as Egypt, Greece, Persia) also taking your land and sending you into exile too.
Once the Romans gave the Jews the final boot they lived in many other parts of the world but mainly Europe.
Yet in over 2,000 years they never once had a self-governing sovereign nation of their own until 1948.
So why was the State of Israel founded at all 75 years ago when they would have to go back to even before Roman times to show any formal tribal organization and then use their own religious texts (not valid in law by the way) to make territorial claims in the modern era?
That's like someone putting together a family tree as a hobby and then claiming to find a royal ancestor and using it as all the credentials that are needed to be a governor or president today.