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Eurovision - Today I will be ashamed to be Polish


jon357 74 | 22,469
15 May 2023 #331
And we make exactly the same mistakes.

For some reason the Scandis seem to call it right. That or their bloc voting.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 11,720
15 May 2023 #332
....I always guessed that "bloc voting" is an overused argument by the losers, confirmed whenever an outsider wins! :)

People just want to have a good time and a party with good music and an inviting performance....and yes, artists who are able to connect with the audience, that's it.
jon357 74 | 22,469
15 May 2023 #333
whenever an outsider wins

The problem is that they rarely do. It much depends on the Scandi bloc, the francophone bloc, the Slavic blocs. And Greece & Cyprus rarely miss an opportunity to give each other douze points.

There's actually a guy with a doctorate in Eurovision who's crunched the numbers.

And of course there was last year's corruption scandal involving several countries including Poland.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 11,720
15 May 2023 #334
We could have a germanic bloc! But then the English need to vote for the german entry and vice versa...

*runs*
jon357 74 | 22,469
15 May 2023 #335
the English

Can the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish not vote then?

If anything, the UK tends to get votes from our oldest ally, Portugal, plus Ireland, Cyprus, Israel, Belgium, Poland. And sometimes Germany votes for us and we for them.
mafketis 37 | 10,880
15 May 2023 #336
Some talk of a conspiracy this year to give it to Sweden (which explains the judges giving it soooo many points) because they want the 50th anniversary of Abba's victory to also be in Sweden...

Personally Sweden was good, but top five good, not number one good.
Alien 21 | 5,220
24 Apr 2024 #337
The German song for this year is even quite nice. Maybe there will be at least......second to last place. 🤔
mafketis 37 | 10,880
24 Apr 2024 #338
The German song for this year i

Early on I listened to a lot of countries as they were released and now I'm hibernating until a week or two before the contest

Haven't actually heard the German entry this year

Favorites in no particular order:

Italy (great vocal and she knows what she's doing on stage, in San Remo she even fell during a performance and still won
Spain (catchy disco-ish number with great lyrics in Spanish which don't translate so well into English)
Armenia (hard ethnic and I'm all in)
Croatia (brilliant --- the hook is the rhythm that runs through the whole song I just wish they sang in their own language)
Ireland (video's a bit overdone but the basic song's pretty good)
Switzerland (I want to like it more than I do, brilliant in conception but...)
Greece (urban modern and ethnic at the same time, and I like the performer who did one of my favorite greek songs a few years ago - mantissa)

I've heard Norway, Portugal and Belgium but they leave me kind of cold, I need to listen more to Slovenia and Lithuania I think they might grow on me)
Alien 21 | 5,220
29 Apr 2024 #339
until a week or two before the contest

The competition is coming soon.
jon357 74 | 22,469
1 May 2024 #340
Favorites

The few I've heard just sound dire.

And of course it'll be the usual bloc voting which is most of the fun of watching that show. Unless it's at a Eurovision party which is always helped by drink.
mafketis 37 | 10,880
1 May 2024 #341
The few I've heard just sound dire.

Are you what they call a "misery guts"?

Eurovision isn't about 'good music' for those with conventional good taste.... it's supposed to be entertaining and tacky and over the top and I can't help but feel that anyone who can't get into the spirit of the thing is a hopeless misanthrope....

It's called... f u n.... look it up.
amiga500 4 | 1,529
1 May 2024 #342
tacky and over the top

Opium for the petite-beurgeouise.
jon357 74 | 22,469
1 May 2024 #343
Are you what they call a "misery guts"?

The opposite. I enjoy low culture, usually watch Eurovision and have fun doing so.

Unfortunately what I've heard this year is crap.

entertaining and tacky and over the top

It's not quite tacky or over the top enough sometimes.

petite-beurgeouise

At its best, it's a parody of those awful TV variety shows that we put on for straight people in suburbs. At its worst, it's Germans, Dutch and Austrians taking it too seriously and missing the irony.
mafketis 37 | 10,880
1 May 2024 #344
Dutch and Austrians taking it too seriously and missing the irony.

I don't think the Dutch took things too seriously this year....

youtube.com/watch?v=gT2wY0DjYGo

Could be fun if it's staged well....
Feniks - | 221
5 May 2024 #345
I don't think the Dutch took things too seriously this year....

Nope! Loved the video though.

I like the Italy entry, very catchy tune.
mafketis 37 | 10,880
6 May 2024 #346
I don't think the Dutch took things too seriously this year....

Actually I spoke too soon.... this guy goes into a deep dive on the Dutch entry comparing it to the UK entry and finds a lot there (both musically and lyrically).

tldr: it's about letting go of childhood trauma....

youtube.com/watch?v=jeW40z6_L2Q
jon357 74 | 22,469
6 May 2024 #347
on the Dutch entry

Wobbly internet here though I'll try and catch it tonight.

the UK entry

That guy's been all over the tabloid newspapers. I think he was in a talent show. The song's supposed to be OK however the singer is controversial; perhaps thats part of it all and why we like the contest.

about letting go of childhood trauma.

That is a very Eurovision miid-scoreboard topic.
Feniks - | 221
7 May 2024 #348
I think he was in a talent show.

Lead singer of a band called Years and Years. You might have heard this:

King - Years and Years



He's also an actor.

That guy's been all over the tabloid newspapers.

I think that's due to his decision to go ahead with Eurovision amid calls for a boycott due to Israel's participation.

The UK song is ok but to me it's a bit on the bland side. Something and nothing.
Crnogorac3 4 | 803
7 May 2024 #349
Did Ireland send one of them Banshees to Eurovision?

x.com/a_ines_cross/status/1787927788944539862

A witch's ritual on stage

It's Ireland's turn

x.com/Faklana38/status/1787927088915247137

Bambie Thug, a representative who declares herself to be gender neutral, performs the track Doomsday Blue, and her appearance and performance attracted a lot of attention
jon357 74 | 22,469
7 May 2024 #350
A witch's ritual on stage

That sounds great fun.

He's also an actor

A quick look online says he was in a series called It's a Sin which was good.

a bit on the bland side. Something and nothing.

I thought so too. Hopefully they'll be a nice dance routine however I don't think he'll win or come anywhere near the top, especially die to block voting. A catchier tune would be better.
Crnogorac3 4 | 803
7 May 2024 #351
That sounds great fun.

When your song is rubbish, you send them as masquerades, preferably as the devil & co and you're guaranteed to move on, a cheap trick.

I have the impression that these 2 Ukrainian women were a trio, but this other one ate the third one 😝
jon357 74 | 22,469
7 May 2024 #352
preferably as the devil

Dressing up as devils sounds fun and is certainly nothing new in entertainment. I heard the Irish song and there's nothing sinister about it. Great fun.

At least r*SSia's out of it and can't fiddle the voting.

The Australian entry looks fun.
Alien 21 | 5,220
8 May 2024 #353
Poland was eliminated. Is it right?
jon357 74 | 22,469
8 May 2024 #354
Yes.

The Polish entry was eliminated in the first semi-final due to being rubbish.

Apparently Switzerland is supposed to be a very good one and Slovenia sounds interesting.
mafketis 37 | 10,880
8 May 2024 #355
Dressing up as devils... is certainly nothing new in entertainment

By now it's boring and trite.... I kind of like the Irish entry but the staging was just grotesque and ugly (and boring if you're not a 15 year old goth).

Unofficial crowd winner was clearly Croatia... they went hard and nailed it (and had some of the same audience participation that Finland had last year). It won't do super well with judges but it's going to get a crap ton of televotes.

Poland's staging was maybe based on a translation error?

It seemed based loosely on a chess theme with two.... constructions that looked like the chess piece called 'tower' in Polish (wieża) but.. it's not called that in English (rook is more common but it's also called the castle in the US)

I can't believe the boring entries from Cyprus and Serbia went through... I would have preferred Australia and Moldova in their place...
jon357 74 | 22,469
8 May 2024 #356
Australia

That one was OK, and the first time a Eurovision song has had an aboriginal language in.

a 15 year old goth

Nice kids usually.
mafketis 37 | 10,880
8 May 2024 #357
the first time a Eurovision song has had an aboriginal language in.

A few years ago the Dutch entry had some lyrics in the spoken lingua franca of Surinam (where Dutch is the official language). The name of that language always sounds hilarious to Polish people ...... Sranan
amiga500 4 | 1,529
8 May 2024 #358
and the first time a Eurovision song has had an aboriginal language in.

They only speak their abodigimal language after half a litre of methylated spirits.
Ironside 51 | 12,473
8 May 2024 #359
I always wondered who was watching that show. Well, I know now. Maybe I have been hanging with the wrong crowd on PF.
jon357 74 | 22,469
9 May 2024 #360
I just watched the Polish entry again. It was painful to see.


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