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American Special Military Operation in Venezuela


Novichok  7 | 11089
1 day ago   #241
Some moron told me that way back adult men could fvck 7-year-old girls because that was the age of consent.

Today, we fvcked Maduro because he consented to it...Watch:



So...what's the problem?
AntV  4 | 805
1 day ago   #243
After a few hours of reading about the extent of China's moves in Cuba, Venezuela, and S America, I'm wondering if we don't have a choice in building empire. This pains me, I'm sympathetic to the Pat Buchanan stance of being a republic, not an empire.

For instance, I knew China was in Cuba but the extent of what they are doing there was completely lost on me. They have built an eavesdropping infrastructure that has been monitoring some very major military centers and space development hubs in Florida. They have conducted military exercises on the Cuban island. They have shipped in military equipment. And so on.

In Venezuela they are also very active. As well as the capital infusion and influence peddling in the Carribean and S America.

The reality may be we need to choose us as an empire or China as an empire. If this is the case, and it seems it may be, then maybe Trump is getting it right.

Hmmmm....
Novichok  7 | 11089
1 day ago   #244
then maybe Trump is getting it right.

That one is easy...

If Dems hate it, he is right... no thinking required...a canary in a political mine...
AntV  4 | 805
1 day ago   #245
I need more than that.
Novichok  7 | 11089
1 day ago   #246
OK...

If LGBT people like it, it's perverse and should be stopped the next day. No hearings are necessary. See gender-affirming surgeries for minors.

The general rule is like this:

Dems: We love it.

Trump: I love it, too.

Dems: We hate it. It will destroy our democracy.

More specifically:

Dems: Trump loves dictators and is doing nothing about that creep Maduro.

Trump: Maduro is in US custody.

Dem: Trump is a kidnapper and a criminal. Impeach!!!!!!!

That's why they switched from global warming to climate change...With the latter, they are never wrong.
cms neuf  3 | 2283
1 day ago   #247
For instance, I knew China was in Cuba but the extent of what they are doing there was completely lost on me.

I nie tylko - there are 5 Chinese restaurants in Torun - the Lotos, Orient Express, Thienlong, Beijing and most suspicious the one just called "Restauracja Chinska". What can they be up to ?
GefreiterKania  33 | 1536
1 day ago   #248
What can they be up to ?

Spying on Father Tadeusz.
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12657
1 day ago   #249
I need more than that.

Its a new age, Anti!

And your impression is the same as mine,...the world gets partitioned again, with the global big players grappling to get the biggest and tastiest morsels to secure their future.

You can do it as the EU currently....looking on gaping and awing and shocked...not prepared for anything, still wishing the old world back and to wake up from that "bad dream" or you can accept the new reality and act like it.

Gorbatschow once said so nicely in East-Berlin 1989 looking at the old commie guard:
"He who comes too late is punished by life."

He was right then, and he is right now....Trump definitely doesn't want the US to be punished later because of his inactivity now!
Paulina  19 | 4876
1 day ago   #250
If this is the case, and it seems it may be, then maybe Trump is getting it right.

Is he "getting it right" about the option of invading Greenland too?

still wishing the old world back and to wake up from that "bad dream" or you can accept the new reality and act like it.

I agree that the new reality has arrived and I'm not sure if the EU leaders (or maybe ordinary Western Europeans too) fully grasp it... Nice and comfortable times are over and I have an impression that the West doesn't want to come to terms with it. 🤔

Now we have to worry not only about RuSSia being a threat, but also about the US. The US is becoming an openly hostile country towards the EU. People probably hope that it will change once Trump goes away (or if he goes away), but I'm afraid that may not be the case, because his voters will remain. The putinization of the MAGA mindset seems to be progressing.

We have to both mentally and militarily prepare for the US being out of NATO and the Western world. 🤔 😢

Trump definitely doesn't want the US to be punished later because of his inactivity now!

It sounds as if you approve of what he is doing (and how). That's especially messed up coming from a German.
cms neuf  3 | 2283
1 day ago   #251
And your impression is the same as mine,...the world gets partitioned again, with the global big players grappling to get the biggest and tastiest morsels to secure their future.

There are some very weird people round the Whitehouse and Pentagon these days and lots of them seem to think the same. Generally those with little knowledge of the world outside America.

I think some of them have been watching too many videos of 19th century North Nigerian tactics of running head along towards machine guns, and think all foreigners are that stupid.

When the world was partitioned into spheres of influence in the 19th century there was one key difference - the natives didn't have guns or weapons training. Once they did, they inflicted costly and bloody defeats on all the colonialists in Vietnam, Malaya, Algeria, Afghanistan.

People don't generally like being ruled as slaves by extractive foreigners. I don't know how many countries Golden Cow is thinking of invading, but after a few months of disorientation, the inhabitants will start fighting back with modern weapons, cyber warfare, maybe even cheap nukes.

At that stage your average G.I. (who these days is often Latinx or black) might start wondering why they are risking their lives for some oil company or tech billionaires, when they could be sitting at home peacefully watching Netflix with the kids
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12657
1 day ago   #252
That's especially messed up coming from a German.

How so?
Paulina  19 | 4876
1 day ago   #253
@Bratwurst Boy, are you kidding me? 🤦

How so?

Because the Nazis were invading other countries too in the name of their "national interests" or whatever other reason they thought of/made up. Including Poland.
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12657
1 day ago   #254
are you kidding me?

Back at you Paulina!

As if the partitioning of the World into spheres of influences is a Nazi thing!

Have you forgotten that the World since 1945 was nothing else, till the coming of a new time starting 1989?

And that age ends now also....its a again new time and I as a (East)-German don't want to end up at the wrong side of the new-to-be-build-wall again! Is that so hard to understand? Is that so Nazi???
Paulina  19 | 4876
1 day ago   #255
As if the partitioning of the World into spheres of influences is a Nazi thing!

Invading other countries like there's no tomorrow definitely was a Nazi thing, you could say. A Stalinist thing too, but you're not Bobko.

Have you forgotten that the World since 1945 was nothing else

Oh, it's hard to forget considering Poland ended up in one of those "spheres of influences" against its will. So as a Pole I feel for the plight of those that may share such fate.

I as a (East)-German don't want to end up at the wrong side of the new-to-be-build-wall again! Is that so hard to understand? Is that so Nazi???

Well, it seems like you're approving of what the new baddies are doing? So it looks like you don't mind ending up on the wrong side of history. 🤔


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Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12657
1 day ago   #256
Invading other countries like there's no tomorrow definitely was a Nazi thing, you could say. A Stalinist thing too, but you're not Bobko.

....and exactly how many countries did Trump already invade?

Oh, it's hard to forget considering Poland ended up in one of those "spheres of influences" against its will.

....and I'm fairly sure the Poles back then had wished someone else in the White House but Roosevelt would had fighted Moscow for them, not just accepted the russian claim....someone like...say Trump, yes? I know, the East Germans would had been grateful!

Well, it seems like you're approving of what the new baddies are doing.

Thing is, who is the Baddie here?

Why no word from you about Cuba? Using his soldiers and intelligence to keep Maduro on top In Venezuela? Maduro couldn't seemingly trust his own people with his life, his bodyguard had been all Cubans!

Why no word about Maduro himself, the llegitimate dictator and opressor of the venezolan people who sells its oil tot he russian war machine to support their war in Ukraine?

Why no word about the Chinese who additionally supported the Maduro dictatorship with Billions to gain a foothold in Latin America, to add it to their future sphere of influence?

But Trump ending all that without much bloodshed, with no civilian victims, is the big Baddie here????

Please explain!
Paulina  19 | 4876
1 day ago   #257
....and exactly how many countries did Trump already invade?

None... yet! But he clearly would like to, including a NATO country. 🤦

someone like...say Trump, yes?

No lol Trump would do jack sh1t for Poland. 🤦

Thing is, who is the Baddie here?

The people who are "considering" an option of invading an allied country? Ffs... 🤦

Why no word about Maduro himself, the llegitimate dictator and opressor of the venezolan people

His vice president is currently in power in Venezuela. So it looks like there was no regime change. For now it doesn't seem like anything changed for the Venezuelan people?

Why no word about the Chinese who additionally supported the Maduro dictatorship

In case you haven't heard the Trump administration doesn't seem to want to stop at Venezuela o_O
Lenka  6 | 3587
1 day ago   #258
Thing is, who is the Baddie here?

USA.
Maduro was a baddie. The way he was removed, Trump trying to gain longer term control and threatening Greenland is making USA baddie too.
Paulina  19 | 4876
1 day ago   #259
Btw, according to Reuters/Ipsos poll majority of Americans (including Republican voters) don't want the US to be involved long-term in Venezuela:

o2.pl/informacje/druzgocacy-sondaz-dla-trumpa-amerykanie-odrzucaja-plan-7240788894501376a
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12657
1 day ago   #260
None... yet! But he clearly would like to,

....hmmm....lotsa wouldn't, couldn't, and maybe will do's in your post, Paulina.

For now it doesn't seem like anything changed for the Venezuelan people?

There is a strong opposition in Venezuela, its leader Mrs. Machado, just got recently the famous Peace Nobel Prize. After the removal of Maduro she openly declared to want do share said prize to Trump, to convey her gratefulness!

euronews.com/2026/01/06/venezuelas-machado-says-she-wants-to-share-nobel-peace-prize-with-trump

Additionally it seems the actual sworn in gov leader in Caracas, Mrs. Delcy Rodriguez, is pragmatic enough to offer and agree to cooperation with the US...

...But while she was quick to denounce Maduro's "kidnapping", she also called for cooperation and respectful relations with Washington. And she may just be the steady hand needed to lead the country's political transition...

france24.com/en/americas/20260106-delcy-rodriguez-profile-maduro-deputy-acting-president-venezuela

It looks like a truly peaceful return of Venezuela into the democratic world....but still without a druglord on top....without more oil for the russian war....and without another chinese foothold in Latin Amerca!

In case you haven't heard the Trump administration doesn't seem to want to stop at Venezuela

....and if it works as well?

Declaring Trump the baddie here makes only Moscow and Beijing happy, Paulina....you should keep that in mind!
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12657
1 day ago   #261
Trump trying to gain longer term control and threatening Greenland is making USA baddie too.

Lets Trump first actually invade and start murdering greenlandian civilians with the goal to opress and impoverish them before declaring him a Baddie...then I'm with you, promised!
Paulina  19 | 4876
1 day ago   #262
....hmmm....lotsa wouldn't, couldn't, and maybe will do's in your post, Paulina.

Hmmm, you see, we Poles prefer to prepare for the worst case scenarios given the history of our country, you know.

I know a sociopath in charge of a great military power when I see one.

Nothing real, actual happening...

You mean like before 1939? lol

and THAT makes Trump the baddie?

Yes, considering invading an allied country is unhinged enough for me (and for most normal people). But not for you? o_O

Mrs. Delcy Rodriguez, is pragmatic enough to offer and agree to cooperation with the US...

For now this "cooperation" is sending barrels of sanctioned oil to the US lol What exactly does this change for people in Venezuela?

truly peaceful return of Venezuela into the democratic world

I'll believe it when I see it.

without a druglord on top

There doesn't seem to be any evidence of him being a "druglord" though. 🙄

....and if it works as well?

You want it to "work as well" for Greenland too? 🤦
Paulina  19 | 4876
1 day ago   #263
Lets Trump first actually invade and start murdering greenlandian civilians

Yes, let us wait for that and scream with wide eyes in shock and horror: "We didn't see it coming!!!" 🙄🤦

then I'm with you, promised!

It's going to be too late then.

Declaring Trump the baddie here makes only Moscow and Beijing happy

What I'm sure makes Moscow and Beijing happy is the US turning against its allies. You wouldn't make this sh1t up in the wildest nightmares. 🤦
Ironside  53 | 13947
1 day ago   #264
an empire or China as an empire. If this is the case, and it seems it may be, then maybe Trump is getting it right.

Do you realize that the Biden administration marks the end of the U.S. as a dominant global power? The Cold War weakened both the Soviet Union and the U.S., while China, despite some challenges, has emerged as a strong nation, possibly capable of winning a conflict with the U.S.

They are present in Venezuela, but they also have a strong presence in Cuba with spy installations that monitor military bases and activities in Florida. Additionally, they maintain good relations with Brazil and have significant operations in Africa. In short, they have risen to be a major player on a global scale.

I believe they are waiting for the U.S. to attack Iran, as they depend on Iranian oil. They would definitely support Iran, hoping for a major defeat for the Americans. When it comes to Iran, you need to have boots on the ground to gain control of the country. Airstrikes and limited special forces operations won't be sufficient. It is a country with a very difficult terrain, nothing like Iraq.
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You can do it as the EU currently.

The potential of the EU is greater than that of Russia and is significant enough to be on par with the US. The problem lies in the stubbornness and liberal elites in Germany and France, who have vested interests that hold us back. The extreme green policies are stifling economic growth while benefiting a select few. Additionally, permitting illegal immigration from outside Europe in large numbers is another mistake and a disservice to the indigenous European population. This, coupled with an inefficient bureaucratic system in Brussels, exacerbates the situation.

If anything, we should build a new transparent and efficient organization, perhaps a Confederation of European States, and countries should develop their own nuclear capabilities.
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12657
1 day ago   #265
I'll believe it when I see it.

Agreed...a good point of view to build an opinion! Better than "maybe's" and "could be's" anyhow....

There doesn't seem to be any evidence of him being a "druglord" though.

Na ja, then he won't have anything to fear in the upcoming trial...

....In the 25-page indictment, US prosecutors laid out a case that allegedly began in 1999, when Maduro was first elected to public office, saying he, Flores, his son Nicolás Ernesto Maduro Guerra, and three others participated in a "relentless campaign of cocaine trafficking".

bbc.com/news/articles/cwyndnqqey5o

Yes, considering invading an allied country is unhinged enough for me

Screaming loudly about human rights and international law the moment the true Baddie is removed from power, but having ignored his murdering and opressing all the years before, not caring for his victims at all, that is for me unhinged and just highly mendacious and despicable, sorry!
Ironside  53 | 13947
1 day ago   #266
Because the Nazis were invading other countries too in the name of their "national interests" or whatever other reason

LOL That is not exclusively a German thing. The issue is that they, as a nation, are very young and therefore quite late to the party, often seen as that rude kid pushing and shoving against established interests.
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12657
1 day ago   #267
The potential of the EU is greater than that of Russia and is significant enough to be on par with the US.

Agreed, the EU has the potential to be one of the big global players, but for that to become it needs reforms!

The problem lies in the stubbornness and liberal elites in Germany and France, who have vested interests that hold us back.

Frankly I am not so sure they do that consciously....these big changes are coming fast, our reactions on the other hand are slow. But that error is build into our system...

If anything, we should build a new transparent and efficient organization, perhaps a Confederation of European States

I would like that very much!! :)
Ironside  53 | 13947
1 day ago   #268
USA.

Yes

Women should not have a say in politics. You two are living proof of it. Each of you should have at least seven children so as not to waste time on gossip about politics.
Paulina  19 | 4876
1 day ago   #269
LOL That is not exclusively a German thing.

No sh1t. 🙄🤦

Women should not have a say in politics.

If you lived in Nazi Germany you would be a fanatical Nazi. 🤮

but having ignored his murdering and opressing all the years before, not caring for his victims at all

I have no idea where you're getting this from. My comment wasn't about Maduro in particular, but about your comment about "world getting partitioned again" and you being OK with the US doing that partitioning by force and/or against the will of the local people.

Trump threatened a military operation against Colombia. Against a democratic country with a democratically elected leader (the first liberal president, "coincidentally").


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Ironside  53 | 13947
1 day ago   #270
for that to become it needs reforms!

Realistically, they would never consent to reforms. I believe that organization is beyond saving; the only way forward would be to dismantle it and build a new one from scratch, based on universally applied rules without exception or privilege.
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If you lived in Nazi

Are you fantasizing about Nazies every day? You talk about them often enough; you are obsessed. Get a grip.


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