How curious that this same thinking helped shove millions of Jews and Roma into ovens! Atonement is a life long spiritual cleansing process and doesn't switch off after a certain period of time like a stop watch!!
Once more, B.B., as I posted prior, failed overly liberal policies have pushed tolerance to its limits and test Germany's Christian values, making the pagan "virtues" of Hitler's Barbarenvolk ever more tempting to everyday Germans, frustrated and thwarted by their inability to get either jobs or housing against an onslaught of foreigners, allowed into the Federal Republic because of the lure of cheap labor!
Around 1960, there was a now famous, to some infamous, photograph taken of a youngish, Portuguese guest worker being presented with a bicycle as a welcome gift for being the one millionth guest worker in the then fledgling West Germany. What was once seen naively as a symbol of hope for a happy future later became reviled as a symbol of all the AfD along with other right wingers despise about the immigrant overload.
In a speech made during the late '30's, Hitler himself proclaimed "We are Barbarians, we are proud of being Barbarians!" While every nation has indeed their Achilles Heel, the temptations of succumbing to the allure of pagan savagery remain nonetheless deeply rooted in Germany's history.
So much for looking in to the mirror, B.B. It cuts both ways:-)
Oh, I agree! Integration remains Germany's greatest, indeed most difficult, challenge at the moment, bar none. One solution might be to be more selective as to whom the government even allows into the country. As far as the millions of migrants currently residing in the Federal Republic, legally or illegally? Probably economic integration becomes more important than either linguistic or social integration, in fact, one and the same thing. If, say, an Iranian newcomer is a whiz in marketing, computer graphic, even the fashion as well as the field of gastronomy and other creative areas, language skills will fall into place and therefore, the "foreignness" of the outsider will slowly but surely somehow become absorbed into the broader society.
I realize too that Germany isn't America. A pity that people such as Merkel, Schroeder along with SPD predecessors didn't realize this a lot sooner.
You're ignoring a fundamental flaw in the German character, whereby the "German people" willfully and with malice of forethought took it upon themselves to decide life or death over an entire group of individuals by ruthlessly, to be sure, with ultimate savagery expunging, rather than legislating intelligent and enlightened policies whereby Roma, Jews, and others might actually co-exist within the same society. Germany's failed 1848 Revolution (Vormaerz) in essence surrendered complete authority to the government, among other bodies, the police, thereby squashing the last gasp of democracy in Germany, roughly until the ill-fated Weimar Republic during the 1920's which turned out to be almost as much a joke on the Germans as Chamberlain's "Herr Hitler assures me........of peace in our time." was on the rest of Europe!!
Remember too, the Austro-Hungarian Empire was as close to a Mulligan's Stew of varied ethnicities, languages, and cultures as ever existed on G-d's green earth. " Pure Aryan Race"??? My foot.
whereby the "German people" willfully and with malice of forethought
The last one was buried yesterday. Theirs sons are guilty of nothing that they would have to feel guilty about.
The only guilt they should have is for feeling guilty too much and for too long. And for passively watching foreign hordes invade their beautiful white country.
If I were German, I would have both of my middle fingers up in the air 24/7 - even in bed. And a sign: Fvck you all.
Germans and Roma are as compatible as me and pancreatic cancer. Hitler was right for asking them to get lost.
Rich, the whole point is that the more completely, above all willingly, assimilated the erstwhile "outsider", the less foreign they become and will slowly but surely become accepted into the national fold.
The tragedy of the Jewish Question was that no matter how completely Germanized Germany's assimilated Jews were and felt themselves to be, they nonetheless weren't German enough for the Nazis, numerous Iron Crosses, conduct medals, even facial plastic surgery to "improve" their appearance notwithstanding.
They were seen as invading the host body and nobody could shake Hitler of his beliefs. Today, the AfD, though hardly comparable, is trying to minimize the Hitler years and this to me is unthinkable.
If I were German, I would have both of my middle fingers up in the air 24/7 - even in bed. And a sign: Fvck you all.
I couldn't agree more!
the whole point is that the more completely, above all willingly, assimilated the erstwhile "outsider", the less foreign they become and will slowly but surely become accepted into the national fold.
What complete and utter bollox!!! In so many countries, your theory has been proved wrong! Yeah, it works with Jews,Hindus,Sikhs, Buddists and other religions, but not the majority of Muslims.
I started with how important English is Poland and how it helped in the US...The teacher was all smiles...
At some point, I asked a boy if he had a girlfriend. He said no so I asked him if he would like to have one. He said sure so I told him how to do it. I got a good laugh...
Rich, as anywhere, perhaps the students are willing to learn, but are they necessarily able?? I always wanted to learn higher mathematics, yet with all the willingness and tutoring imaginable, the results were less than stellar. Same with the average Pole and English. Rather like mixing apples with oranges, so the saying goes; it's a bad mix!
It also function, look at the Tatars in Poland. They served the Polish king for centuries, and they are Polish patriots.
Oh yeah, Alien, all hundred of them in Bohoniki, and they were loyal to Poland until their mullah visited Saudi Arabia, then everything went to hell No more loyalty
Rich, a third grader might indeed not understand it. An adult such as yourself should! Or perhaps I still don't see your point. Guess I'm not as smart as you LOL
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