Polish-Russian war? Drones entering Polish airspace.

YAY 😀

....but.....shouldn't the words be in russian???

Hm... good point. OK, we will repaint the words. The corrected signs should be ready in 2037.

If they did, he probably wouldn't pick the phone up being dead since 1799.

It depends of flight controller firmware, and, probably, configuration "what to do if engine stalls".

The Gerbera is smaller, and much, much lighter than the Geraniums.

Ukrainian specialists that catalogue and study Russian drones, claim the Gerbera has a wingspan of about 2.5 meters, and that it weighs around 20-50 kilograms. It's powered by a small pusher engine that can be bought in any hobby shop, while its construction is mostly foam/plastic around plywood formers.

Contrast this to the Geran-2 or Geran-3, which has a 3.5 meter wingspan, and a weight of 250 kilograms and 350 kilograms respectively.

The Gerbera is basically a large model airplane, like children make in high school.

It's simultaneously quite big and very light. After hundreds of uses in Ukraine, there is tons of photo proof of them landing largely unharmed, in the same way they landed in Polish fields.

So Velund's idea that the Ukrainian's could be gathering them and fixing them up is quite reasonable.


Given that we are discussing a medium sized KAMIKAZE drone, I don't think the normal fail-safe or return-to-base logic applies.

This is not a big reconnaissance drone with an expensive payload, that you need to be able to land safely if you lose control.

In fact, the Geran-2/3 and Gerbera probably don't possess any safe way of landing at all.

Probably once control is lost, the drone continues flying along the last known GPS waypoints.

If GPS is spoofed, it may switch to inertial navigation (have no idea if the German's possess suitable equipment for this).

If GPS and INS are both f*cked - I think the drone will simply continue to fly straight until it runs out of fuel and crashes.

@Korvinus

What's 40,000 soldiers?

In just one battle (Bzura) in September 1939 we counter-attacked 425,000 Germans with over 200,000 of our own, and today we get excited about 40k men. It's not even enough for one proper battle. :(

But I suppose Zapad this year is smaller than it used to be.

It happen to be the the biggest and longest battle during september campaign, though.
By the way, such good neighbours, those Russians. "You only have half a million troops left, let us help you by killing some of them and taking over your country!"
And if you want to continue the discussion about WW2, please state your argument in the other thread, there's no need to create off-topic.

@Korvinus

What's this kind of homeopathic dose of soldiers supposed to do?

If Russia doesn't invade (99.99999999% probability) - then you wasted several hundred million zloty for a PR stunt.

If Russia does invade - these 40,000 will end up in a rapid encirclement - faster than you can say "Bialowieza".

-//-

Conclusion - action was performed for retarded reasons like "European Readiness" and "Demonstration of Resolve" that only people in Brussels can comprehend...

To be honest they are geniuses in Brussels, when it comes to the art of inflating some token force rotation into something that sounds instead like Caesar's legions moving into Gaul.

To help them and you Poles, I will come up with some potential "Brussels-approved" labels for the next time you send a 200 person contingent to some Lithuanian airbase:

Security themed:

1) Shield of Unity
2) Operation Eternal Guard
3) Forward Freedom Facility (alliteration!)

More geographically focused:

1) Baltic Sentinel
2) Danube Watch
3) Nordic Horizon
4) Carpathian Resolve

Values oriented:

1) Operation Democratic Shield
2) Guardian of Liberty
3) Lawful Dignity Deployment

Poetic and Wistful:

1) Aurora Spear
2) Praetorian Presence
3) Eagle's Watch

This way... while your soldiers may still feel very stupid, and utterly unprotected by their irresponsible governments - they will at least have nice shoulder patches to gift to their kids.

BB, as talented artist, can handle the graphic design. I suggest a liberal use of eagles, lightning bolts, and that part of the world map which shows the North Atlantic Ocean.

One Polish soldier, even drunk and with the woman on his lap, can overcome 40 Russians, even if they are sober.

Better than a red star..

With a woman on his lap he would be better off making 3 or 4 future soldiers for Poland (that would, in 20 years, produce an equivalent of a Russian company, according to your maths). :)

Tell this to a Polish soldier, and see if he feels happy about it.

In the same way, in Ukraine there is a huge divide between civilians (who love to talk about mobiks, orcs, and slaves)... and soldiers (who have to fight mobiks, orcs, and slaves).

-//-

As a rule, a soldier anywhere on the planet wants a few simple things:

1) Competent commanders.
2) Adequate opportunity for rest.
3) Confidence that he or his family will be taken care of in the case of a wounding or death.
4) Sufficient supply.

He doesn't need so much, a Korvinus sitting in the rear, telling tall tales about how he can fight 49 Russians off with his bare hands.

Wanna bet?

For the duration of Zapad-25 I am wearing my Gefreiter uniform... just in case. :)


As homeopahtic as it indeed may be, it's still 40,000 professionals. Better to have them there instead of just local units and territorial defense. Their job won't be to drive towards Moscow but to delay the advance of the enemy. That is, as you well know, the main job of professional army: die slowly enough for the country to have time to mobilize.


If they are encircled, they will break out at a place of their choosing - over Russian stomachs.

Meanwhile, Russia's charge d'affaires in Warsaw, Andrey Ordash, told RIA Novosti that when he was summoned to the Polish Foreign Ministry on Wednesday, the Polish authorities did not provide any evidence that the downed UAVs belonged to Russia. He noted that the drones had flown into Poland from Ukraine.

If it was Russia, Poland would declare war against Russia. Or at least stop trading with Russia.

Poland did neither.

Case closed.

No comments... ;)

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Straight out of the r*SSian playbook.

Nobody believes them.

Hey, azzhole, this spelling game is old and over. Just as trans crap...Grow up.

I don't have the time right now to read all the comments, but I just have to react to this ;D:


My God... Yes, there are no comments indeed, if you prefer to believe one random comment on the internet that could be written by anyone (including a RuSSian/paid troll) over the owners of the house ;D What an idiot... 🤦

wiadomosci.wp.pl/to-w-ich-dom-uderzyly-szczatki-drona-przez-okno-patrze-leci-dach-7198751245212576a

While Ukrainians still qualify as white and European, this starts changing as you go to their eastern border and then srus. Further you go east the more everything becomes Mongol/Kazakh/Chechen etc. Russians are not white and not European. They used to be in the past, but centuries of racemixing with every surrounding shitskin, and the fact that most of the population are descendants of mongol rape babies, changed that.

Something like this can be easily photoshoped ;D
Such news articles don't exist on the Polish internet:

lublin.se.pl/dom-we-wsi-wyryki-zniszczony-przez-burze-a-nie-drona-bzdura-aa-MJ5o-vEsS-7iXp.html

x.com/LachowskiMateus/status/1966432831896219834

@Velund, and here you have interviews with people living in Wyryki - a woman living 100 metres from that house said that she heard a bang/explosion in the morning so loud that she thought it was her house falling down and another woman is saying that at first she thought there was a gas explosion, so clearly nothing to do with any storm from two months ago ;D:



RuSSian propaganda/disinformation is so dumb and pathetic ;D

And here you have again an interview with the owner of the house - he's saying that the fake info is bullsh1t and that there has been no storm in Wyryki for the last three months:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/dron-zniszczyl-mu-dom-rozprawia-sie-z-teoriami-spiskowymi-7199403174337152a

I'd like to stress that the investigation is ongoing and they're not sure yet what hit the house - whether it was a drone, remains of a drone or fragments of the missile from the fighter jet and if the drone has been shot down at all.

In the article there's also an interview with a nature's photographer Tomasz Kawiak who was taking photos of deer rut early in the morning between Korolówka and Wyryki and he saw the F-16 firing at the drone. He didn't see if the missile hit the drone, because he decided to take cover since he was wearing military camouflage and he was afraid that the pilot will think he's the drone operator lol

About 10 seconds searching and I found this: kremlin troll confirmed

konkret24.tvn24.pl/polska/ludzie-mieszkam-na-tej-wsi-nie-mieszka-trolle-kremla-uderzaja-w-ofiary-st8646113

It's worth stressing again and again that r*SSia spend hundreds of billions every year on online propaganda.

That figure is a shocking one, however they spend it.

A couple of articles, declaring published photos as fake, removal of few photos from some other public resources - and oops, there was no such thing at all. ;)

Hint - Google cache stil have some of photos, so you can find it by "search by image", but if you try to open them, you get 404... ;)

The same thing as with videos from bucha, where "dead body" reflected in mirror started to move once car with camera is passed by... ;)


How many PLN is necessary (in addition to free roof repair) is necessary to get witnessing of sexual violence, made by drone engine, before it stalls completely in house? ;)

Just like my Polish docs to prove I am Polish by birth.

PF is a bar, not a courtroom.

I don't know what you're talking about - I used the option "Szukaj z obiektywem Google" and it found no such thing. 🤨


I gave you a video with interviews with people living in Wyryki (with their names and surnames given, including the headmaster of the local school) and they are saying that they heard a loud bang/explosion that woke up everyone in the morning and there's no word of the house being damaged by any storm, you pathetic moron ;D


I've seen those videos and there were no bodies "moving" lol

You know what, Velund, I'm starting to think you don't believe the bullsh1t you're spewing. You must be repeating those lies on purpose, because I'm not buying that you're that stupid.


So?