Poles start to feel arrogant and superior to Southern Europeans

I have a theory about why countries in Southern Europe tend to have a reputation for being lazy: the weather. In summer it's too hot to work, in winter the weather's too nice to sit inside, working. In contrast, in countries such as Poland the weather is usually not great, so the people are industrious.

When I explained this idea to an American friend he pointed out a flaw: California is one of the most innovative and richest parts of the US. Which may be true, except of course that they can afford air conditioning...

They were, now they are bankrupt... :)

Let's be honest. There are two specific industries that make California what it is: Hollywood and the Silicon Valley. Without these two, the state is South Carolina.

You forgot tourism and wine.

And prn, apparently.

Sandomierz blood libel legends

Also read about an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture.

Does it make any sense for you?

@AdamKadmon
This thread piqued my interst, I am just reading Ariel Toaff's book. These are not some mad ravings. In fact, he makes a a lot of sense.

I shudder to imagine so, but this kind of ritualistic murder might continue being practiced in the fringes of the world to this day. Specially in the east, being that Eastern Christians are specially aware of this.

Its a defence mechanism for their being dumb with nothing to offer more than anyone else can.

Arrogance often does come from inferiority complex. May be the case with Polish. ..And some others.

What I know Poles feel,... I won`t say superior, but better then western Europeans. And rightfully so. Western European stupidity is famous.

Anyone who suffers from an inferiority complex will project such feelings onto others whom they sense as in some way a threat!

.....as Eastern European arrogance and feelings of superiority are legion, Crow!
:-)

I made the experience that those with an inferiority complex are the same who accuse others of displaying arrogance...

Perhaps, B.B. Yet it all depends upon which side of the fence you're sitting at the time as well!

Maybe...but I have yet to hear truly self-assured people complaining about other peoples arrogance...they just don't care!

I too can let such things roll off my back, to be sure though, they can also be quite annoying over time:-)

Arrogance requires a superior culture. Even Krakow and Torun can't match the beauty of Rome, Seville, Plovdiv, Varna, Athens, and various other Southern European cities. Also Italian cuisine is the best and healthier. What Poland has is beautiful women and hardworking people. I don't like the mass alcoholism. Italian and Spanish economy are still better than Polish one.

Yes and Spain and Italy do not posess that.


Italian cuisine is pretty good but is beaten hands down by French cuisine.

Rome is a beautiful city, unfortunately it is full of Italians......

All such discussion is based purely on ethnocentrism and cultural relativism!
I've never been to Nairobi, but have been told by Europeans visiting there that it has an impressive infrastructure and many elegant edifices....I don't especially who provided the money or the know-how:-)

yes - that sounds true

No, I didn't. Did you?
I haven't been reading much of PF's content for few years now and I forgot about posts like this. OP - let be honest here a troll or an idiot- should be renamed ram.

By the way annoying quoting rules.

Italians and Greeks are arrogant on Poles and not the opposite. And Italians and Greeks are those who are ugly.

Southern westerners such as Spaniards, Italians and Portuguese are what i call "wieśniaki" in Polish :)
Edit:
Not wieśniaki (this would imply i dislike ppl that live in rural Poland) but "Wsioki" :P
Simpletons

I Never noticed anything like that.


Simpletons are everywhere they just run across races, nations and cultures./ They are everywhere.

1. Yes, most Poles seem to get more arrogant by the year, especially in the last decade.

2. I don't think their generally weird/unusual behaviour (towards Westerners?) is specifically aimed towards Southerners. They simply can justify their typical Polish sado/maso social dynamics towards darker skinned people easier.

3. Even though I never was a racist (apart from my late teens maybe, while I was dumb) and also had quite a good number of Polish girlfriends (mostly outside of Poland), I am going to say what has to be said:

At first, I didn't think anything specific about them, just them being from Eastern Europe. They generally tried to behave OK while abroad in the 2000s/early 2010s. The situation, however, might have either changed in the last 10 years or it was the effect of me coming to Poland (completely unexpectedly towards what would be waiting for me there). At first I thought they were "the butt of my jokes" by coincidence or even that they were just slightly dumber. Very soon I had to realize, however, I wasn't in Kansas anymore. Yeah, the usual/typical constant attention of females was interesting (and I got a few good girlfriends there, not only Polish ones) but, year by year, there was more of the "other kind" of attention (from guys), unfortunately. It seems Polish males can't handle energy exchange or social situations with Westerners very well... and often have to react either submissively or in a grotesquely negative way. I suspect that the cold weather and isolation over the thousands of years might have hampered their social evolution. But that's just a theory. Good luck to them sorting themselves out, ASAP!

Unfotunately, my usual good luck has just failed coz your post is a bit messy. Can you summarise in two sentences maximum what you meant??? About 30- 50 words.

I basically said that their awkwardness likely isn't specifically aimed at darker skinned people. It's just easier to consciously justify.

You forgot to add if you consider it positive or negative. :):):)

@pawian
That's a good quesion! I'll have to think about it. I guess everything has its positives and negatives. One just has to weigh the positives and negatives for one's specific situation, individually.

Well, Pawian, I think he needs to sort himself out first.

I understand why some people might feel that Poland has become arrogant, especially those Poles who drive expensive cars and live in very nice homes. Something that gives them a status they didn't have prior to 1990. However, I have found that Polish people are generally welcoming and respectful to foreigners. In my experience, Polish men are more likely to be arrogant than Polish women, and this arrogance is often directed towards other Europeans. However, I believe that these isolated incidents do not reflect the general attitude of the Polish population towards foreigners. Ultimately, no one likes arrogance, regardless of their nationality. I drive a modest car, and I have noticed that some Polish drivers in very expensive cars sometimes seem to want to push me out of the way, even when I am not in the fast lane. This may be due to a growing sense of arrogance among some Polish businessmen, who are now able to afford expensive cars and homes.

As an American, I have not had any problems with Poles in general and even the Police seems to tone down when they find out you are from the USA, as long as you are being civil. However, I have heard that some Polish men may resent foreigners who date or marry Polish women. In small towns, talking English with your Polish wife or girlfriend may draw strange looks from some men, who may seem hostile. However, in larger cities, being a foreigner is generally not an issue.