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Poles say a big YES to our European Union


OP jon357 63 | 14,122
21 Aug 2017  #121
humanitarian work

Plenty of that needed in Poland, according to some. Nevertheless, dignity is better than charity, and EU membership has provided jobs and an income for a huge number of people.

Usually people with mental issues repeat themselves

You are certainly repetitive.

Sarkozy was also a backstabbing pr!ck

Eloquent, and untrue on both counts, one suspects.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,423
21 Aug 2017  #122
Just happily join the club?

But thats exactly the crazy logic Merkel and the EU are using, mad don't yu think when looking from the outside.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,474
21 Aug 2017  #123
@dolnoslask

Yea but it won't work.. Poles will be poles and poland will be poland
Ironside 48 | 9,720
21 Aug 2017  #124
As it's the EU's rig

Like what? What is the EU if not state members? If some members are doing crazy things that is not in the signed agreement, they should deal with them themselves.

Somehow when Russia was banning export of the Polish food to Russia for some made up reasons The EU was very but very quiet and inactive. Only IF they want something or more precisely only if Germany or France wants something they are full of slogans about solidarity, EU this or that. Which is clearly a BS. .

Poles wanting to be in eu

Not for ANY price.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,423
21 Aug 2017  #125
Yea but it won't work.. Poles will be poles and poland will be poland

Your right they won't change us .
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,474
21 Aug 2017  #126
You'll see months years whatever from now Poland's GDP will continue to grow and we won't have the problems of terrorism, assaults on women, etc. Well still have a million Ukrainians who live peacefully. Strange how only one group seems to cause all the terrorism in europe
OP jon357 63 | 14,122
21 Aug 2017  #127
The EU was very but very quiet and inactive.

They'd just imposed unprecedented sanctions. So not inactive - unless you suggest they declare war.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,626
21 Aug 2017  #128
You'll see months years whatever from now Poland's GDP will continue to grow and we won't have the problems of terrorism, assaults on women, etc.

It's been said elsewhere, but the danger in Poland is domestic terrorism, not to mention the outdated attitudes towards women. PiS are about to put a judge in the Constitutional Tribunal who said that domestic violence doesn't exist - so just because a woman isn't getting assaulted by a stranger doesn't mean she's safe in Poland.
gumishu 11 | 5,012
21 Aug 2017  #129
It's been said elsewhere, but the danger in Poland is domestic terrorism,

how much of domestic terrorism have you seen in Poland for the last two years?
OP jon357 63 | 14,122
21 Aug 2017  #130
not to mention the outdated attitudes towards women

Something the EU ought to get involved with, specifically a woman's right to choose.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,626
21 Aug 2017  #131
how much of domestic terrorism have you seen in Poland for the last two years?

The lunatic who tried to blow up a bus in Wrocław, the guy who wanted to blow up the Sejm, etc etc.

Right wing terrorism is a real danger in Poland, even to the point where other European intelligence agencies consider the Polish far right as potential terrorists.
OP jon357 63 | 14,122
21 Aug 2017  #132
The lunatic who tried to blow up a bus in Wrocław, the guy who wanted to blow up the Sejm

Plus that bomb scare in Warsaw that someone phoned in a while ago.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,474
21 Aug 2017  #133
@delphiandomine

I'm not saying poland is 100% safe but compared to other countries including western Europe overall violent crime and victimization rates are lower. But yes domestic violence def exists and is rampant in some rural poorer areas especially when the husband has had too many drinks. At least pis went back on the whole abortion thing after much protest. Some people hate it some like it to me its whatever I view it as a necessary evil. I think it's better for parents to have a kid when they're ready to but that's just my opinion. Peoples views on this cover the whole spectrum.

Most of the far right ppl are narodowcy and soccer hoolis. Every European country's got em but Poland's tend to be more vocal more powerful and often enjoy political protection.

@gumishu
There's been 1 that I could loosely classify as a terrorist incident where some guy left a bomb on a bus and the driver casually tossed it out.
gumishu 11 | 5,012
21 Aug 2017  #134
the guy who wanted to blow up the Sejm,

the guy who wanted to blow up the Sejm was inspired to do so by ABW operatives which even the court admitted in the explanation of the verdict and it happened good couple of years ago and not in the last two years - so fail

the Wrocław bomber demanded ransom for not detonating his bombs in a call to police so he was hardly a terrorist - he was not part of any right wing group either
delphiandomine 83 | 17,626
21 Aug 2017  #135
I'm not saying poland is 100% safe but compared to other countries including western Europe overall violent crime and victimization rates are lower.

I seem to remember that one issue is that reporting rates are much lower in Poland, so whereas someone in Sweden would be quick to report an assault, in Poland, the same victim would face all sorts of issues with reporting it, especially if it's at the hands of the spouse.

Of course, we shouldn't ignore the issues elsewhere - I'm very much in favour of a "zero tolerance" approach to non-EU citizens and crime. Having said that, the majority of the trouble caused by darker-skinned people in PL seems to be Italians and Spanish guys molesting Polish women rather than Arabs or otherwise.
Ironside 48 | 9,720
21 Aug 2017  #136
They'd just imposed unprecedented sanctions

Not right there when it was in Poland's interest. Sanctions are there due to the Ukrainians crisis.

Right wing terrorism is a real danger in Poland

Do you consider PO/or/and its associates - right wing? Interesting.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,626
21 Aug 2017  #137
Do you consider PO/or/and its associates - right wing? Interesting.

Strange that you would ignore the bus attack by a Korwin-Mikke lover.
gumishu 11 | 5,012
21 Aug 2017  #138
I just told you about the Wrocław bomber - and well now Korwin-Mikke (regardless of how of touch some of his ideas are) is a terror apologist for you, yes? - how deluded one can become, I wonder
dolnoslask 5 | 2,423
21 Aug 2017  #139
Strange that you would ignore the bus attack by a Korwin-Mikke lover.

Dredging the bottom of the barrel in comparison to what is happening in Europe at the moment.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,474
21 Aug 2017  #140
@delphiandomine

Yeah but that's mainly due to demographics there's probably more Italians and Spaniards than Arabs in poland in the first place. Idk the exact numbers in just guessing by what I've seen. Also in some cultures acts of flirting and what not can be considered sexual assault in others I.e. pinching a girl. In the us having sex with a drunk girl can be considered rape even if she agreed to it whereas in other places no such laws exist.

Poland doesn't mind multiculturalism but in limited amounts. Even recently they've become more open to lgbt. Poles accept things just at a slow cautious rate although some thing they just won't negotiate on unless its done their way. For example they're fine with taking in people from the middle east... But only Christians it appears
delphiandomine 83 | 17,626
21 Aug 2017  #141
Dredging the bottom of the barrel in comparison to what is happening in Europe at the moment.

Not really. Had that bomb gone off, it would have killed for certain, and maimed quite a few others.

Don't try and downplay it. The guy who wanted to blow up the Sejm would also have caused a horrific death toll had he succeeded.
gumishu 11 | 5,012
21 Aug 2017  #142
The guy who wanted to blow up the Sejm would also have caused a horrific death toll had he succeeded.

again the guy who wanted to blow up the Sejm was directly inspired to do so by ABW operatives during the PO reign (for those who don't know what

ABW is - ABW Agencja Bezpieczeństwa Wewnętrznego - Internal Security Agency)

the Wrocław bomber didn't have political motives - he called the police the same day demanding ransom - one lonely sick guy who just happened to admire Mikke

so much for your right wing terrorism in Poland
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,474
21 Aug 2017  #143
Every time I hear mikke speak I can't help but laugh at some of the stuff he says. I can't really take him too seriously but he's still pretty funny and entertaining
OP jon357 63 | 14,122
21 Aug 2017  #144
guy who wanted to blow up the Sejm was directly inspired to do

So a domestic terrorist then.

the Wrocław bomber

Another domestic terrorist.

one lonely sick guy who just happened to admire Mikke

A typical Korwin-Mikke fanboy.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,423
21 Aug 2017  #145
mikke speak I can't help but laugh at some of the stuff he says.

Like how to hunt a lefty
liveleak.com/view?i=8c0_1498635023
gumishu 11 | 5,012
21 Aug 2017  #146
Every time I hear mikke speak I can't help but laugh at some of the stuff he says.

you wouldn't suspect him of being a terror inspirer or apologist though, would you? and rightly so - I was a Mikke follower when I was young - he is a libertarian doctriner though and I sort of grew out of libertarian doctrinerism - but I do believe in free market
OP jon357 63 | 14,122
21 Aug 2017  #147
I can't really take him too seriously

Nobody really does. They guy is a nut - as for the EU, having him as a Europosel is a real embarassment for PL, due to his antics.
OP jon357 63 | 14,122
21 Aug 2017  #148
Not right there when it was in Poland's interest. Sanctions are there due to the Ukrainians crisis.

So they should have restated the same sanctions on different notepaper? The EU don't do that.
NoToForeigners 6 | 989
23 Aug 2017  #149
Our govt is right. We don't want islamists in Poland and we will never accept them. Poland will rather pay the fine and most Poles will be fine with that. You're completely right Dirk diggler. Don't waste your time on leftard fossils such as jon the homo. He's mind is set since he was born with homosexualism disease which forces him to be liberal. He's totally immune to any arguments you can provide. Luckilly for us such people are meaningless in Poland and their opinion doesn't matter (more so if they're not Polish like jon the homo).

What works in our favour is EU knows it will lose way more when Poland leaves the Union than Poland losing EU funds.
You'll see. We will not accept any "refugees" at all.
Crow 137 | 7,595
23 Aug 2017  #150
People, when I see title of this thread, I have erection. What this means? Am I sick?


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