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Poland, Western Europe and the USA - What if Ukraine disappears from the map?


OP Crow  154 | 9531
1 Mar 2025   #91
Such conflict is very unlikely as Russia

Such conflict is illogical. I mentioned it to illustrate things to you.

Russia want same what Serbia want. To get rid Slavic world from foreign rule.
Torq  8 | 1010
1 Mar 2025   #92
Russia want (...) to get rid Slavic world from foreign rule.

So, what is foreign rule in Slavic countries according to you:

situation A: Poles rule in Poland, Serbs in Serbia, Czechs in Czechia, Bulgars in Bulgaria etc.

or

situation B: Russia rules in Poland, Serbia, Czechia, Bulgaria etc. (directly or indirectly)

Something tells me that you prefer situation B, but to me situation B is exactly what looks like a foreign rule. I am a huge Russophile (and a friend of Serbia) but I think every Slavic nation should rule itself in brotherhood with others but without dominance of any one over others (apart, of course, from honorary dominance of Poland as the historical and moral centre of Slavija).
OP Crow  154 | 9531
1 Mar 2025   #93
So, what is foreign rule in Slavic countries according to you:

First, we get rid of foreign rule. Then we establish rules within Slavic civilization.

situation A: Poles rule in Poland, Serbs in Serbia,

Vatican and Germanic magnates rule in Poland, Vatican and Germanic magnates tries to rule Serbia.

situation B: Russia rules in Poland, Serbia, Czechia, Bulgaria etc. (directly or indirectly)

Russia tries to expel foreign rule from Poland, Russia tries to support Serbia to remain free.
mafketis  38 | 11137
1 Mar 2025   #94
o get rid Slavic world from foreign rule

Ukrainians are far more slavic than russians.... (russkie or rossijane)

Serbs just have a bunch of sick power fantasies and lick the hands of any master that promises them somthing...
OP Crow  154 | 9531
1 Mar 2025   #95
Ukrainians are far more slavic than russians.... (russkie or rossijane)

There goes that idiotic nonsense of yours.

Man, 1/4 of Ukrainians are Russians, 1/4 are Poles, 1/2 are Serbians.
jon357  72 | 23482
1 Mar 2025   #96
Ukrainians are far more slavic than russians

Indeed. Some Ukrainians say that most white-skinned people in the r*SSian 'federation' are basically a type of Finn.
OP Crow  154 | 9531
1 Mar 2025   #97
There are no Ukrainians. It is same as you label Warsawians as the nation. Or Belgraders as nation.
Torq  8 | 1010
1 Mar 2025   #98
Vatican and Germanic magnates rule in Poland

Nope. Polish people go to elections and they elect whom they want: one time it's a Sarmat KaczyƄski, another time it's a Kashub Tusk - depends on our mood. Poles go to Catholic churches, true, but you would be surprised how much healthy anti-clericalism there is in Polish society. We are the children of Slavija and Svetovid who worship Our Lord Jesus Christ on our own conditions he he :)

So you have to give up this "Germanic boo hoo, Vatican boo hoo" nonsense Crow. Poles rule in Poland because that's what God wants.
OP Crow  154 | 9531
1 Mar 2025   #99
Nope. Polish people

Where is then the monument to Gavrilo Princip in Poland?

Or monument to Milos Obilic?

See, mindset of Poles is to be determined by foreign rulers. Still, Poles love Serbians. They resist.

Or, where is, if you want, monument to Polish-Russian victory over Swedes?

See? See?

That is why you need Belgrade.
OP Crow  154 | 9531
1 Mar 2025   #100
We won`t give you to THEM in silence.
Torq  8 | 1010
1 Mar 2025   #101
Gavrilo Princip

In general we don't build monuments to political murderers in Poland. We can appreciate the chain of events and the eventual outcome of the murder, but we don't usually honour the murderer.

Milos Obilic

Don't forget that in Kosowe Pole Polish knights fought side-by-side with Serbians. That is why, until this very day, Poles say that "Kosowo to Serbia". We have very good memories. Like elephants.

Polish-Russian victory over Swedes?

What?

Let's see: first northern war (7-year war) - Russia was on the Swedish side, in the Inflanty war Russia didn't take part at all, then 1617-18 totally between Poland and Sweden, the next one 1625-26 without Russian participation, in the Vistula estuary war we were aided by Austria (but we had to pay half a million zlotys for it - a lot of money back then), in the VI Polish-Swedish war - the famous Deluge - Russia was actually on the Swedish side again. Hmm... you must be thinking about the III Northern War in which accidentally Poles and Russians were at the same side for some time. Nothing to build monuments for really.
mafketis  38 | 11137
1 Mar 2025   #102
There are no Ukrainians.

Millions of people call themselves Ukrainian. Why don't you go there and tell them they don't exist?
OP Crow  154 | 9531
1 Mar 2025   #103
Sure. Millions of man at this moment desire to cut their own di*k and to become woman. Why don't you go there and tell them they are deluded?
mafketis  38 | 11137
1 Mar 2025   #104
There are no Ukrainians

For you...


Torq  8 | 1010
1 Mar 2025   #105
For you...

There's something wrong with linking YT videos here recently. At least for me it doesn't work.
mafketis  38 | 11137
1 Mar 2025   #106
There are no Ukrainians.

For Crow...

youtube.com/watch?v=ILGDHqOAw3w&list=PL5CcGrfayYyxrwFnCu7hGwUoPezE8zaEO
Vesko Vukovic  - | 184
1 Mar 2025   #107
@mafketis

Your fellow American Jackson Hinkle agrees with Crow's statement on Ukraine.

x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1895678929975066641
mafketis  38 | 11137
1 Mar 2025   #108
fellow American Jackson Hinkle

a nazi.... try again after listening to this...

youtube.com/watch?v=xDeQVaoTvJM
OP Crow  154 | 9531
1 Mar 2025   #109
For Crow...

What for Crow? Serbians even named Ukraine after Serbian Krajina. We had there our own two semi-autonomous states, 250 years ago, and plus lived in the rest of the wide region. At least 1/2 in Ukraine are Serbs.

But expose people to the mass media and you may even convince them to cut off their own penises.
mafketis  38 | 11137
1 Mar 2025   #110
What for Crow?

An example of the lovely Ukrainian language. How does the language exist without a people?
OP Crow  154 | 9531
1 Mar 2025   #111
Quite nicely. Romanians is hybrid, too. French linguists abused local Serbian dialects and created Romanian language. French itself is the local dialect of the Sorbona university that was installed to be French language. Ukrainian is Serbians penetrated with Russian and Polish words. Plus old Russian dialects. Mass media and papal acolytes did the rest. Croatian, Montenegrin, Bosnian, Macedonian are Serbian.

Etc, etc. Many false languages in the world.
mafketis  38 | 11137
1 Mar 2025   #112
French linguists abused local Serbian dialects and created Romanian language

Astounding! And Hungarian how was it created from Serbian?
OP Crow  154 | 9531
1 Mar 2025   #113
Mix of mostly Slovak and then also Serbian with the arrived Hun dialects. With borrowed elements from Fin languages in creation of modern gramatic. That is the Magyar language.

Before Huns arrived, from the Morava river in Slovakia to the Morava river in Serbia, in complete today's Hungary, up to the Czechs and Kracow in Poland existed unified Slavic state Great Moravia.
mafketis  38 | 11137
1 Mar 2025   #114
creation of modern gramatic.

Now do Basque!
OP Crow  154 | 9531
1 Mar 2025   #115
I don't know for them.
mafketis  38 | 11137
1 Mar 2025   #116
I don't know for them.

So there's a possibility..... that the oldest people in Europe...... _aren't_ Serbian..... noted.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 531
1 Mar 2025   #117
I doubt the possibility of Poland's existence as a nation without clericalism, so in my mind, anticlericalism is poisoning our national identity
Torq  8 | 1010
1 Mar 2025   #118
clericalism, so in my mind, anticlericalism is poisoning our national identity

Maybe you misunderstand what "clericalism" is. Not that long ago I wrote a letter to a priest, an editor of one of Polish Catholic weeklies (Idziemy), to share with him my concerns about the things which I considered wrong in Polish Church. In his reply he agreed with most of my observations and said that in his opinion clericalism was one of the main causes of the Church's current problems.

Healthy anti-clericalism is not, as you probably think, hatred of priests and bishops but it is rather a disdain for pride, greed and abuse of power present in the current Catholic hierarchy and courage to oppose it passively or actively. Without healthy anticlericalism the Church would die or at least fall into serious decline which hopefully will never happen in our country.
OP Crow  154 | 9531
1 Mar 2025   #119
So there's a possibility..... that the oldest people in Europe...... _aren't_ Serbian..... noted.

How oldest? Their ancestors traveled via Balkan to come to Basque. At that time, during Ice age, what was Europe was Balkan. Rest was tundra and 2 km tick ice. Civilized society in back then Europe existed only on Balkan.

Sarum
Spania
Swedi
Swabi
Sparta
Etc

.. all that coming from Sarmatians ie Slavs. First ethnic Europeans. Givers of West.
pawian  226 | 27453
1 Mar 2025   #120
our national identity

Our??? You are verfluchte Americanische schweine so what identity are you talking about now????.


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