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Ups and downs of the democratic government 2023-2027 in Poland


Ironside 53 | 12,412
23 Feb 2024 #92
We talked about the victims of the strict abortion law in another thread.

You talked about alleged victims of that law. When in fact there is no such law and there are no such victims, there is only a lie. If that is your proof you have failed to prove anything. Do you want to try again?

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OP pawian 222 | 24,343
23 Feb 2024 #93
When in fact there is no such law

Yes, there is the law which bans abortion in most cases and in cases it allows, doctors are afraid to perform it. Stop obfuscating darling, you are wasting time while women and decent males know better.

That is why you got 7%. Ha!!!!

try again?

We`ll see your result at the coming elections in April. hahahaha buhahahahaha
Ironside 53 | 12,412
23 Feb 2024 #94
and in cases it allows, doctors are afraid to perform it.

Really/ Now you are a doctor, listen you old baboon prove it? Your nonsense doesn't cut it! What kind of a doctor would be afraid of doing what professionals should do. If can do it because he is afraid maybe is not fit to be a doctor or maybe it is an excuse or maybe and most likeit it is political nonsense made up by the commies like you.
Korvinus 2 | 476
23 Feb 2024 #95
Look how KO is fulfilling its election promise and abolishing the TV license fee!

Soon, every working person will have a mandatory TV and radio license fee, but don't worry, if you are unemployed or retired, you won't pay.

biznes.interia.pl/gospodarka/news-abonament-rtv-ma-zniknac-jest-juz-plan-na-nowa-skladke-padla,nId,7188893
OP pawian 222 | 24,343
23 Feb 2024 #96
it is political nonsense

No, darling, it is a verifiable case that doctors were delaying with the abortion of defected pregnancy until the woman died.
This nonsense cost you 7% for your nazio buddies and lost elections for PiS. Ha!!!
Keep up good work, darling, we need more of that. hahahahaha
Ironside 53 | 12,412
23 Feb 2024 #97
It is a verifiable case

Fine, name them and their case, I'm sure the family already sue d them and won in court.
OP pawian 222 | 24,343
23 Feb 2024 #98
won in court.

Don`t be stupid. This is the last year`s case. Thanks to your ideolo buddies aka PiS bolsheviks, the court rulings take even more years than before.
Ironside 53 | 12,412
23 Feb 2024 #99
Don`t be stupid.

So you have no case, nor names. OK, I will believe you they exist. lol!
Go away now!
OP pawian 222 | 24,343
23 Feb 2024 #100
Go away now!

Are you crazy?? I have just started my activity ...... hahahahaha buhahahaha

Another tension in the coalition surfaced today. Amasingly, coz it shows that one of the coalition leaders is an azhole or a kindergarten kid. I mean Mr Hołownia.

He whines that Tusk`s party had run a black propaganda campaign in the net against him and his party before the elections. Of course, cos they were rivals who competed for the same voters. It was Hołownia who refused to set up a wide united coalition of anti PiS parties so that they could collect more votes according to the De Hondt system.

Complaing today about the hate campaign, he proves he is either naive like a kid or intent on starting some animosities in the gov which means he is an azhole.

Hołownia, grow up, dear, coz you are discrediting yourself, not the Saviour of Poland.

wydarzenia.interia.pl/kraj/news-szymon-holownia-wprost-mam-zal-do-platformy-obywatelskiej,nId,7350277

Wirtualna Polska wrote on Tuesday evening that the Civic Platform had paid PLN 305,000 over the last eight years to one of the entrepreneurs for "political analysis". According to WP's findings, at that time the entrepreneur ran two accounts that promoted Platform politicians and attacked party opponents, including: Szymon Hołownia .WP managed to confirm previous information disclosed, among others: by TVP editorial staff, according to which Bartosz Kopania - a long-time collaborator of Donald Tusk - is behind the pseudonym Pablo Morales.In dozens of entries, only in the last weeks before the parliamentary elections in October 2023, Pablo Morales regularly predicted a severe defeat for Hołownia and his party . At the same time, he advised against voting for this party due to, among other things, for possible cooperation with Law and Justice .
Ironside 53 | 12,412
23 Feb 2024 #101
The Civic Platform had paid PLN 305,000 over the last eight years

Can paid trolls on PF tell us if that is a lot or just peanuts for trolling?
OP pawian 222 | 24,343
23 Feb 2024 #102
trolls on PF tell us

Go to Russian members..... :):):
OP pawian 222 | 24,343
24 Feb 2024 #103
Conservative parties delay and procrastinate claiming that PIS President will veto the new law anyway so why should they hurry?

Czarzasty focuses on division and differences. The left is fighting for its life

The leader of the Left was just waiting for a good moment to attack Szymon Hołownia and Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz and call them blocking women's rights. He had been preparing for this for several weeks and wants to base a large part of his campaign on this. In response, Szymon Hołownia told him that he was a liar and that he was contributing to cracks in the coalition. But Włodzimierz Czarzasty does not care about such accusations, because in practice he is fighting for his political existence or not.

A poor result in the local and then European elections will cause him and the Left to fall into a tailspin of increasingly worse and depressing polls. Therefore, the liberalization of abortion law and the legalization of civil partnerships and marriage - these will be topics under the banner of: women's rights, human rights , with which Left politicians will want to distinguish themselves from other colleagues in the coalition.

amiga500 4 | 1,536
24 Feb 2024 #104
Left politicians will want to distinguish themselves from other colleagues in the coalition.

Also building CPK and other critical infrastructure, especially with partia razem who have not taken any government posts, and claim they are part of opposition.
amiga500 4 | 1,536
3 Mar 2024 #105
Wow, BBC World Service has a debate on the policies of the new government: Is democracy being restored or undermined in Poland? With Morawiecki and Bosak, some horrible woman from PO and a cool chick from Partia Razem, Magdelena Biejat. Very balanced debate and good on the BBC for organising it.


OP pawian 222 | 24,343
3 Mar 2024 #106
cool chick from Partia Razem, Magdelena Biejat

She is running for the mayor of Warsaw in April. She is a far leftist so not my cup of tea. :):):)
jon357 74 | 21,980
3 Mar 2024 #107
and a cool chick from Partia Razem, Magdelena Biejat

She'll get my vote.
Alien 20 | 4,925
3 Mar 2024 #108
get my vote

Because she looks good?
Miloslaw 19 | 4,856
3 Mar 2024 #109
Does she?
She looks very plain to me.....
amiga500 4 | 1,536
4 Mar 2024 #110
She looks very plain to me.....

One man's passion is another man's poison.
Nothing more sexier than a smart woman who passionately believes in fighting for a cause or causes.
Anyway you haven't seen her 'pomalowana'
OP pawian 222 | 24,343
4 Mar 2024 #111
She looks very plain to me..

Mongrel, stop evaluating women by their looks only, it is very sexist. Women also have soul and character if you didn`t know.
Alien 20 | 4,925
4 Mar 2024 #112
Women also have soul and character

And a pair of glasses, at least in this case.
OP pawian 222 | 24,343
5 Mar 2024 #113
Conservative parties delay. They are afraid to openly admit they are against abortion coz local gov and EU Parliament elections are coming and they don`t want to lose the votes of women who reject discriminatory PiS.

Conservatives spent a lot of time trying to convince the public they weren`t procrastinating, that it was the Left to blame coz they had submitted a faulty legislative proposal etc etc.

Today the conservative Speaker of the Parl announced he put off the abortion discussion until 11 April aka after local gov elections. :):):)

Hey, all conservative posters in the forum, you should start supporting Szymon Hołownia coz he is your man. :):):) hahahaha

Amasing how things develop! I do appreciate such sudden twists. :):):)
OP pawian 222 | 24,343
5 Mar 2024 #114
they don`t want to lose the votes of women who reject discriminatory PiS.

The national elections gave conservatives 14,40% support. On 8 April we`ll see their another result. We`ll they receive more or less votes than before due to this abortion brawl??? Amasing uncertainty!!!

Stay tuned for the results coming soon!!! hahahaha

Amasing how things develop!

Simply fascinating! :):):)
Ironside 53 | 12,412
5 Mar 2024 #115
Szymon Hołownia

That YouTuber? You support that clown.
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OP pawian 222 | 24,343
5 Mar 2024 #116
Youtuber???? I didn`t know about it.

I support him when he struggles with PiS bolsheviks. But when liberals like Tusk and Co are involved, I don`t - I support the real Saviour! Ha!!!! :):):)
OP pawian 222 | 24,343
5 Mar 2024 #117
Today the conservative Speaker of the Parl announced he put off the abortion discussion until 11 April aka after local gov elections. :):):)

The Left are furious about the conservatives` decision.

Czarzasty, the head of the New Left submitted a request for a vote on this matter. The result was 3:3. Czarzasty and the deputy marshals from the Civic Coalition: Monika Wielichowska and Dorota Niedziela spoke in favor of proceeding with the projects.

Szymon Hołownia (Poland 2050), Piotr Zgorzelski (PSL) and Krzysztof Bosak (Confederation) were against. In the event of a tie, the marshal's vote is decisive. And that is why the Left's initiative to raise the issue was lost. The Marshal explained that he was afraid that the campaign emotions would cause all projects to fail.

- On women's issues, Mr. Bosak from Konfederacja, Speaker Hołownia, and Mr. Zgorzelski from Trzecia Droga stood in one row. I have a question, and I do it with some distance: was I right or wrong when I said a month ago that these legislative proposals would be blocked? - asked Czarzasty, clearly disappointed, after the meeting.

- Is the campaign an argument for not having women's rights and for waiting forever? The hole in the road and which mayor will patch it will determine whether an attempt to fight for women's rights will take place or not? - thundered the head of the Left Club, Anna Maria Żukowska.

OP pawian 222 | 24,343
9 Mar 2024 #118
If the parliamentary elections were held next Sunday, 32.8 percent of respondents would vote for the Civic Coalition aka Tusk and Co, according to a monthly survey by Opinia24.

Law and Justice aka PiS bolsheviks would take second place with 24.6 percent support.
Third Road aka conservatives would also be on the podium, with 14.2 percent of respondents voting for it.

This means that PIS bolsheviks are steadily going to the dogs. Excellent!!! Mutter unser, who art in Heaven, be hailed deine Name........ etc etc/
Poloniusz 4 | 708
9 Mar 2024 #119
32.8 percent of respondents would vote for the Civic Coalition aka Tusk and Co

Only a third of Polish voters have confidence in Tusk when he has been in office just 2 months?

That's pathetic.



Speaking of 30% did Tusk give you your 30% pay rise as promised in his cash for votes campaign?


OP pawian 222 | 24,343
9 Mar 2024 #120
Only a third of Polish voters have confidence in Tusk

No, it is still amasing compared to only a fourth having confidence in PiS bolsheviks. Change your perspective and you will see it. hahahaha

did Tusk give you your 30% pay rise as promised

Funny that you are getting me to grab the calculator from the shelf over my desk now. :):):) Let me count: 2000 more makes how many percent of the rise??? 28.57% exactly.

Yes, he almost fulfilled his promise. I am not so nitpicking to holler about the missing 1.5%. :):):)

Taking state education into account, I am done. :):):)


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