Does Poland support the idea of Slavic unity?

Not true. I never saw Crow attempt to prove Barack Obama's Serbian ancestry, or him claim that the Qing Empire would not have collapsed - had it only treated Serbia more respectfully.

It wasn't his fault that nearly every single thing in Europe, is somehow Serbian in origin.

Me too but Russian citizens are mainly not Slavs,so Russians are not included.

77% of Russian Federation citizens are ethnic Russians...

study.com/academy/lesson/russian-ethnic-groups.html

... so they are definitely mainly Slavs.

....alot of them look asiatic....not slavic, that's true!

23% is a lot. Still, majority are Slavic.

Poles will never support the idea of uniting the Slavs under russian domination.

NATO is an alliance under American domination, the EU is a political entity under German domination etc. etc. In every union of countries there are always stronger and weaker ones, but it doesn't mean the members of such union cannot be treated fairly.

Poles have no problem with NATO under American leadership or even with German domination of the EU (which is not entirely true), but they will never accept a voluntary union under russian domination.

Well, most Poles didn't have much problem with Warsaw Pact.

But the point is that it wouldn't have to necessarily be under Russian domination. Especially that it wouldn't be a military alliance but more of an international cultural/historical cooperation organisation (maybe to some extent political too, like V4).

If they hadn't, this pact would still exist today.

You liar. You can sell us such false claims coz you are exploiting the fact that communists never made a referendum on Warsaw Pact membership.

I assure you, darling, that most Poles had a problem with the Warsaw Pact. Especiially in times of Solidarność when we were threatened with Warsaw Pact invasion to suppress Solidarity and anti communist activity in communist Poland.


Exactly. Kania is lying like a rabid dog now. I wonder why???

By the way, there is a party called Slavic Union (Związek Słowiański) in Poland...

zs.org.pl/

... and they are among of 41 parties, 43 electoral comittees and 2 coalitions registered for the coming parliamentary elections.

tvn24.pl/wybory-parlamentarne-2023/wybory-parlamentarne-2023-panstwowa-komisja-wyborcza-podala-ile-zarejestrowala-komitetow-wyborczych-7319357

Their motto is: "aby Naród Polski nie stracił słowiańskiej tożsamości" ("so that Polish Nation doesn't lose their Slavic identity"). :)

Yes, most probably sponsored by the Kremlin. coz they reject the EU and NATO and support the partnership with Eastern European countries like Russia or Belarus. All major objectives of the Kremlin for Poland.

Fortunately, they are marginal when it comes to elections.

Perhaps there is still hope. Slavs united would be an unstoppable force in the globe.

The Latins had their run. The Germans had a very long one. Would Slavs not have their moment, before they all die out like dinosaurs (no Slavic country has good demographics)?

Yip. The badassness factor (1) is still there, the resistance to woke nonsense (2) is still there, and the ability to endure hardship if need be (3) is still there.

China and India both have only 2 and 3.
USA has only 1 and 3.
Most of the EU has sadly none (well... maybe a little bit of 1).


Sad isn't it? By the way - how many children do you have, Bobi? Well, get your finger out! (in both metaphorical and literal sense)

Will never happen. It's not in your nature to cooperate with each other. You're not a people for compromise. You hold grudges and have vengeful natures.

What kind of Slavophobia is that, Atch? And that coming from an Irish woman. Wait a moment... I have to take out the knife that you just put in my back.

*reaches back*

I won't forget that, Atch, and I will have my revenge one day.

It is a vain hope. Poland will never willingly go with Russia. You would have to exterminate half Poles first.


Indeed. If Slavs were able to create a powerful entity which would matter in the world, they would have done it long ago.


That depends on individuals, not whole nations.

Neither was it in the nature of Bavarians or Swabians, or Rhinelanders to work with each other, let alone Prussians.

By blood, and iron, a German state was forged nonetheless. The Swiss and Austrians, managed to avoid being consolidated - but that is their loss - little irrelevant islands of Germanity that they are.

Until the Germans consolidated, they were kicked around by Poles, French, Russians, and Scandinavians. Once they got over their differences, they shook the world.


Zero :/

Yes, because they all spoke German in their state.
Show me the language that should be spoken in your dreamt Slavic Empire. Russian, eh??? You think Poles will go for that??? Crazy??? hahahaha

@Bobko

.....another honorary Prussian, I believe? :)

... looks like. :-/

OK guys, I will let you have your little Prussia Fan Club thingy, but on two conditions: no Wagner music and no invading Poland.

Yes, and a man that certainly had a deep understanding of my country.

Two quotes:

1) "Never fight with a Russian. To your every stratagem, they will answer with unpredictable stupidity."

2) "Do not expect that once taking advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. The Russian has always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on an agreement signed by you, that you are supposed to justify. They are not worth the paper they are written on. Therefore, with the Russian is to play fair, or not to play at all."

Done!

*hand shake*

PS: I love Hagen von Tronje!!! The Ring....you know....maybe we can find a compromise about that some time....just hoping....

They managed to start and lose two world wars.

@Atch

I'm not a history buff like you, but I had also heard about these events.

This is why I'm not staying up at night, worrying about what North Korea might do, or when Iran will have nuclear weapons. To me it makes more sense to worry about the Germans.

As you said, in the early part of the previous century Germany decided to go war. Who did they decide to go to war against? THE WORLD.

This had never been tried before... and you might think this should've taken about 5 seconds to be over with. But you know what? It was actually CLOSE!

Then another thirty years went by, and they had some troubles, but then they decided - AGAIN - to go to war. Who did they chose to go to war against? Again - it was the WORLD!

Crazy part - it was another close call.

In a perverse way, Atch, this is proof of how well unification had gone for them)

Weird, because to me it makes more sense to worry about RuSSia.


No, in their minds it was a war against Poland. Only later it turned into World War.


So you want to partition Germany... again?

Again, my humor is not translating well with you.

Putin dies and goes to hell, but after a while, he is given a day off for good behaviour. So he goes to Moscow, enters a bar, orders a drink, and asks the barman:

-Is Crimea ours?
-Yes, it is.
-And Donbas?
-Also ours.
-And Kyiv?
-We got that too.

Satisfied, Putin drinks, and asks:
-Thanks, how much do I owe you?
-5 hryvna...