Does Poland support the idea of Slavic unity?

slavic paganism, especially traditional folk music, plays a huge role in uniting us slavs.

being a polish pagan myself, I hold a strong bond with my fellow russian and ukrainian pagans here in Toronto, unfortunately no Poles...yet.

We've been trying to recruit more slavs in and around Toronto for a few months now, mostly through online ads.

alexmac, I fully support your belief, as do MANY slavs in Europe and abroad.

Please don't waste your time on these forums... they are filled with way to many non-Poles/Slavs!!

PM me some time. :)

S£AWA, BRACIE!

S£AWA, S£OWIANOM!!!

Yeah, too many Canadian wannabes.

Where? Certainly not in Slavic countries. In fact, "slavic paganism" seems to be only used by people who visit websites like Stormfront.


You mean "being a Polish racist myself who got into Paganism after reading about it on Stormfront".


Hardly. Stormfront doesn't count.


Filled with true Polish patriots who stay thousands of miles away and who won't actually help Poland at all.

And just in case anyone wants to doubt my connection between "Slavic Paganism" and racism - have a look here -

stormfront/forum/t98543/

Point. Proven.

^Come on delph, that's not fair to say. Those Stormfront users tend to be Christian. White supremacists in general are usually Christian.

Hi,

Every european country is unique. What you are talking about is PAN.

No no, paganism is very big among Stormfront guys. All down to Hitler, you see..

Do they actually practice paganism though? Or do they just admire it because their ancestors practiced it?

I still think most of those Stormfront people are Christian. They're always talking about how they want a "white Christian society" and other stuff like that.

White supremacists often call themselves Christian but of course they are not. The Jesus I've read about would abhor such an idea.

You truly are an idiot if you accuse people who are proud of their Slavic ancestry as people who live in their parents basement. HISTORY AND SCIENCE are on our side. Stop being ignorant of HISTORY and SCIENCE!!! You make us Polaks look bad. Go spread your racist hate somewhere else.

You realize that the R1a haplogroup is not common in all Slavic countries? The Balkan Slavic countries for example have a low frequency of R1a and a high frequency of I2. This haplogroup is more related to the I1 haplogroup that many Germanic people carry.

nonsense. Today`s Germanics who have I haplogroup acquired it thru assimilation of Slavs.

Spot this

/genetics/europe_haplogroups_2.jpg

By 12.000 BC the ice age started to retreat. As you can see on the above map, the three groups of humans had taken refuge for so long that their DNA had naturally picked up mutations, and consequently can be defined into different haplogroups. As they spread from these refuges, Haplogroups R1b, I and R1a propagated across Europe. Bearers of the haplogroups I and R1a, back in those times were Proto Slavs. That we know for sure. But, there is significant possibility that even population that was bearer of the R1b haplogroup was also Proto Slavic. Actually, most probably that all Whites (Europoids) originates from Proto Slavs. It is supported by linguistic and genetic foundings.

you make yourself look bad by calling yourself Polak

let`s go even deeper. We are all star staff. Star staff that has became aware of itself. Everything is star staff: humans, animals, plants, rocks, fire,...

Now, what differs all that star staff in the universe? Intelligence. Intelligent life that evolved in different cultures and civilizations

Crow, all white people eventually have a common ancestor. That is obvious. But the fact is that the South Slavs have a more common recent ancestor with the Germanic people than they do with East Slavs and some West Slavs.

Of all the Slavic people, Poles from northwestern Poland have the highest frequency of the I1 haplogroup. They are the most Germanic of all the Slavs.

sure, sure. i already told it here. Germanics originates from Slavs in wide sense. But, if we were to be precise- Germanics originates predominantly from the Serbs. Now, face that fact


and again you are right. Poles do have legends about their Sarmatian ancestry and, modern day linguistic nicely explained that Sarmatian name represent foreign version of the Serbian original.

Crowie, you are incurable ;)

Nathane, you are great philosopher ;)

You mean we all - non serb, non imaginary sarmatian, non balkan (Btw Bismarck had a wonderful idea about the balkans...build a wall around it and forget it)...We all have to start in this case to use mass rape as a political tool? Too bad NATO did not bomb you back into the Stone Age.

oh, my friend. Welcome in the realm of this forum. Why are you always nervous

As for Pan Bismarck, he was brat, decent Sarmatian, deep in his stomak. His last word on his deathbed was: ``Serbia``

but this in not the same as a genetic link. You also made a similar sweeping statement about the Picts.

He was wrong. He haven't had a chance to meet Crowie. He would have realized then that no wall, no memory loss would be of help :)

Some people do, not all. It is limited to pan-Slavic intellectuals, there was a letter coming from Poland sent to Russia about establishing a Slavic council not too long ago.

Pan-slavism never really died, it has its ups and downs but continues to exist. There is a inner feeling for peace and unity that some feel with others of similar heritage. Pan-Slavism if used for peaceful co-operation can be enough to counter-balance western neo-imperialism. Brothers to the end, even if they fight a little with each other. Yes, it can happen.

Zionist? Where do they fit in this?

Most of Israel is Russian isn't it? at least a lot is some would Israel move to back to eastern europe and russia and leave the middle east where the people are brown?

Good thread

Some poeple do. But they are vast minority.
Here is a song by my fave modern Polish metal group - Horytnica. They made a song called The Slavic Army of Labour. With English subs. Great music, too



The army of labor has set off
Raising a fist of steel
A great work is ahead of us
Raise the building for mother Slavia
Let it reach above the clouds
Let it reach up to the stars
White eagle from the top
Will bless us

Look from above at these fields
Their deed will reach us
For the glory of the Slavs
We will give all the days
Yes, for her, only for her
We will create, live
Like fire smoldering a torch
This thought from burning souls

The hearts of machines are already beating
Lifting arms of the crane
The next floors are rising
Perhaps even today
We will see how
a great edifice will shoot towards the sun
For you Slavdom
We, the nation, your guard

Ha, ha - yehudi, he was a great poster here. :) Also, I hope Nathan is OK - a genuine registered Ukrainian member who actually talked to us instead of just dropping their essays like those bots these days.

The last one to do this was probably Crow

Crow was certainly the most vocal PF member in promoting Slavic unity but certainly not the last one. I am all for Slavic unity too. At the moment it's impossible to realise but one day Great Slavia will unite and when that happens, it will be a good time for the rest of the globe to change their soiled diapers he he :)

*cough cough*

Why do you think I loved Crow so much?

His visionary approach to diplomacy, inspired me to adapt my own tactics in engaging with Poles.

If the ROC should canonize anyone, it's Crow and not Suvorov.

Hear, hear!

The only possible problem with the canonization process is that Crow is most likely still alive. However, I am sure the clergy responsible for canonization can be persuaded, with expensive watches and some of Санитарные Войска loot, to overlook this little obstacle.

You're like a treasure chest of brilliant ideas today!

I didn't. He was like that dog seeing bacon in every random shape.


Here, here is still winning by 2:1.