At present his safest place is a Russian airport
Worry not about this guy, I don't believe he's any whistle blower, more likely Russians or Chinese are behind it.
Poland to reject Snowden asylum bid
Worry not about this guy, I don't believe he's any whistle blower, more likely Russians or Chinese are behind it.
AdamKadmon 2 | 494
3 Jul 2013 #32
Russians or Chinese are behind it.
Behind what?
Freedom, love and global peace...
Poland should have let Snowden stay. Imagine all the free media Poland would get :)
poland_
3 Jul 2013 #35
Your targeting of me is quite becoming of you.
You are paranoid I merely ask you to expand on your brash statements.
If you actually knew anything about the Snowden case then you'd know what I'm talking about.
What's hilarous about you is that you linked to a Guardian story, the opening paragraph of which states
What's hilarous about you is that you linked to a Guardian story, the opening paragraph of which states
I would agree with you, I know very little about snowden other than what I read in the media, what I conclude is he is a complex charachter a spy trained in the art of disinformation.
From your comments you know him personally or you have direct access to him, maybe this is your Walter Mitty side revealing itself again.
Please do not take this as a disparaging comment, Smurf you talk boll@cks.
I don't believe he's any whistle blower
If we told you dog sh!t was brown you'd say it was white man ;)
Snowden is a traitor on the run.
Is he a traitor?
He should try Brazil overall a nice place to live.
AdamKadmon 2 | 494
3 Jul 2013 #38
Poland should have let Snowden stay. Imagine all the free media Poland would get :)
And what Poland should expect him to do is to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth - nothing more than that.
That is what the US is afraid of.
The man should be granted asylum in Europe for exposing the sanctimonious cant flowing from Washington however the overnight farce of EU countries assisting the rogue actions of the US (not for the first time, c/f the black torture sites) mean that he will not. It's also apparent that Europe's manufactured outrage over the Empire's spying on innocent civilians will change nothing.
We may as well hold a party to say good bye to the curtain manufacturing sector as only people with something to hide need them.
The man should be granted asylum in Europe for exposing the sanctimonious cant flowing from Washington however the overnight farce of EU countries assisting the rogue actions of the US (not for the first time, c/f the black torture sites) mean that he will not. It's also apparent that Europe's manufactured outrage over the Empire's spying on innocent civilians will change nothing.
We may as well hold a party to say good bye to the curtain manufacturing sector as only people with something to hide need them.
Nacjonalista 4 | 95
3 Jul 2013 #40
So is living in the Moscow airport?
Marek11111 9 | 807
3 Jul 2013 #41
I think so just like the Iranian in Paris airport
Wroclaw Boy
3 Jul 2013 #42
So is living in the Moscow airport?
Thats what the media is reporting, lets face he could be anywhere including a shallow grave.
While Snowden skips from one country to another we have to question his motivation
One theory flying around is that hes not a whistle blower at all, and this is yet another load of BS cooked up by the powers that be - i dont think so personally.
he has created enough publicity about himself go back to the USA face trial and finish the job.
Easy for you to say, youre not the one looking at 'who knows what' in terms of penal punishment...................or worse.
What the hell does "finishing the job" actually mean? Taking on the US government and winning? I wanna hear your explanation on this one Warszawski.
poland_
10 Jul 2013 #43
Ever since Snowden left his job as a federal contractor supporting the National Security Agency (NSA) and exposed national secrets, he has been hailed and vilified. He stated, initially, that he left the NSA because he was appalled with the level of spying on American people. That made him a hero to many people and a traitor to others.
policymic.com/articles/50871/edward-snowden-news-snowden-finally-reveals-himself-to-be-a-traitor
For me personally the jury is still out on Snowden.
Please, keep to the forum rules. 100 words + url
policymic.com/articles/50871/edward-snowden-news-snowden-finally-reveals-himself-to-be-a-traitor
For me personally the jury is still out on Snowden.
Please, keep to the forum rules. 100 words + url
Wroclaw Boy
10 Jul 2013 #44
If you're going to copy content from another website you should really quote the extracts and then list the link. 80% of your reply is copied.
I think hes currently doing the right thing, IF he is a legitimate whistle blower.
I think hes currently doing the right thing, IF he is a legitimate whistle blower.
poland_
10 Jul 2013 #45
I have been away for over one week and I have not been following any news on Snowden, reading through the news the article I copy part of the text which is closest to my opinion of the current situation.
I guess you are going along some disinformation line that he could be a spy giving Chinese and Russians false or misleading information, this line of thought I do not agree with.
I am not convinced 100% of Snowdens motivation, some of the statements he has made seem to be right out of a John Perkin books.
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I think hes currently doing the right thing, IF he is a legitimate whistle blower
I guess you are going along some disinformation line that he could be a spy giving Chinese and Russians false or misleading information, this line of thought I do not agree with.
I am not convinced 100% of Snowdens motivation, some of the statements he has made seem to be right out of a John Perkin books.
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Wroclaw Boy
10 Jul 2013 #46
I guess you are going along some disinformation line that he could be a spy giving Chinese and Russians false or misleading information, this line of thought I do not agree with.
Put it this way: im about 70% convinced he is what he claims to be, but the way the media is set up these days who knows what the hell to believe.
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poland_
10 Jul 2013 #47
Please, keep to the forum rules. 100 words + url
Mod you should go back and replace the part which is my text, my comments are on topic.
Russian security agency to buy typewriters to avoid surveillance
by Anna Arutunyan at 11/07/2013 12:26
Russia's Federal Protection Service (FSO), the Kremlin agency that protects state officials like the president and the prime minister, has ordered 20 typewriters in an apparent bid to avoid leaks and surveillance like those revealed by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden.
An order for 20 typewriters and 600 ink cartridges costing up to 486,500 rubles was placed by the agency earlier this month, according to documents published on the official site for government tenders.
According to sources in the agency, security agents want to use typewriters instead of computers to avoid leaks and electronic surveillance.
themoscownews.com/russia/20130711/191758523/Russian-security-agency-to-buy-typewriters-to-avoid-surveillance.html
by Anna Arutunyan at 11/07/2013 12:26
Russia's Federal Protection Service (FSO), the Kremlin agency that protects state officials like the president and the prime minister, has ordered 20 typewriters in an apparent bid to avoid leaks and surveillance like those revealed by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden.
An order for 20 typewriters and 600 ink cartridges costing up to 486,500 rubles was placed by the agency earlier this month, according to documents published on the official site for government tenders.
According to sources in the agency, security agents want to use typewriters instead of computers to avoid leaks and electronic surveillance.
themoscownews.com/russia/20130711/191758523/Russian-security-agency-to-buy-typewriters-to-avoid-surveillance.html
I wouldn't mind seeing Tusk removed :-)
But yeah, Snowden is a hero, the government doesn't have the right to do what it does.
But yeah, Snowden is a hero, the government doesn't have the right to do what it does.
No surprise there. Poland still hopes to gain much from US.
It's all political.
If, what Snowden did was done by somebody in China or Russia, he would be hailed a hero.
It's all political.
If, what Snowden did was done by somebody in China or Russia, he would be hailed a hero.
Wroclaw Boy
18 Jul 2013 #51
Mr. Putin said Russia had invited Mr. Snowden to apply for asylum on the condition that he first stop his political activities - presumably all leaking of classified information that could harm the United States. But given Russia's long intelligence rivalry with the United States, it is hard to believe that Mr. Putin has not been enjoying Washington's discomfort over Mr. Snowden, and even his student audience laughed at the suggestion.
From nytimes.
skinner
2 Aug 2013 #52
It is interesting that no country in the self-designated Free World agreed to shield this man who warned them that the government has the ability to steal your online identity and use it to prosecute you.
Wroclaw Boy
2 Aug 2013 #53
no country in the self-designated Free World agreed to shield this man
yeah because theyre scared of American punishment
johnny reb 48 | 8129
18 Aug 2020 #54
Trump says he will look 'very strongly' at granting pardon to whistleblower Edward Snowden.
Originally Trump wanted Snowden put to death for treason.
Originally Trump wanted Snowden put to death for treason.
Yes, I was surprised by his change of mind. What happened?
Snowden
Is he still in Moscow?
in Moscow
Somewhere in Russia. He hasn't been heard from lately.
He probably fell out of a window.
probably fell out of a window.
Probably not, he was not against their system.