Referendum to decide about exotic immigrants in Poland

this was simply brilliant :)

I hate this excessive quoting restriction

Objecting to an irrelevant part of the claim is a technique practiced by scoundrels on the unsuspecting.

They are a new set of stooges which replaced the former one consisting of delphiandomine, jon357 and Harry. In this new set only Mierosław is British.

Are you too stupid to see the picture?
Before it was 3 against 1.
Now it is 3 against 1..
As a percentage that is 75% v 25%.
In any decent democracy, THAT IS A LANDSLIDE!!!
Do you really still not get it?


Yeah, you can't blame the Brits any more, now the Yanks are coming!

I just crossed the boxes on that referendum during voting,lol as it took too much time for me to understand in Polish lol
A question cant the ruling PIS buy back benchers from the other parties?If its legal or illegal they can probably pay 10 mil pln to the other party members each ,who might get money and better positions coming with PIS than they would by staying in there party?

Yes, but did you cross them in Brit-US style or Polish style??? Those two are different.

How?
I just crossed in the squares randomly.I honestly vote here and in the US to be considered as an active voter so that in case I need any recommendation letter or a fone call from my local politician will be easier being a active voter.But Sir,I did follow your instructions this time:) lol

In Poland putting a cross in the box means YES. In Brit/US it means NO. :):):) So, did you put your crosses with No or Yes intention???

Actually Pawian, that's not correct. I don't know about the US but on UK ballot papers you indicate your choice by putting an 'x' in the box.

With "Yes" intention,I never thought like that,in fact even in US we do cross the box for Yes.My real wish was NO to immigration,but what does my 1 vote matter anyway.

Yes, of course. I was only jokingly refering to the style used in doing exercises in English textbooks - either a cross for NO or a tick for YES. :):):

English speakers can get paranoid with that mess.

Usually there are 2 squares,I dont remember seeing 1 box for an answer.You tick or cross really dont matter.
Reminds me of my attorney who signs his cheks as a cross.In OBI in Poland they wont accept unsigned credit cards so I signed it"Fu.ck you" and the buggers accepted it.

That's my position, if there are two options then any kind of mark in one of the squares should suffice.

I remember a long time ago for in-department elections we were supposed to write down by hand the names of all the candidates 6 or so and then cross out three which seemed especially awkward....

No, it is better to mark all boxes, just in case. Check this instruction leaflet for referendum.

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PiS gangsters for week or even months had claimed there was no visa scam organised by PIS crime group. That all the accusations by the prodemocratic opposition and free media were false.

Today PIS ex deputy Foreign Minister was detained by the Central Anticorruption Agency on the charges of running the group which demanded bribes for visas.

How nice. :):):) PiS means Law and Justice in Polish. At last their name makes sense. hahahaha

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Politicians from parties which lost the latest EU elections are discussing the reasons. Such a party is the New Left. They accuse everybody else of contributing to their defeat, however, they miss one important issue - their unconditional support for immigrants sent by Russians and their sidekicks to illegally cross the eastern border in thousands.

Those leftists are really crazy if they can`t see and understand basic things - we are dealing with the hybrid war waged by Eastern regimes. In the elections the left got below 7% votes which in my opinion is the direct result of their attitude to migrant issue.

Some leftists publish protests and articles in the media.
Some excerpts:

I accuse this government, our government - elected with great social effort and endowed with incredible trust - a government in which we placed such great hopes - I accuse it of cynically, with full premeditation, applying the most cruel lawlessness, of being responsible for the deaths of many innocent people and for the death of a recently deceased soldier.

I also accuse them of lying and cynical propaganda, which in order to maintain and expand political support increases social hysteria, hatred, divisions and, finally, racism and contempt for human life and dignity. I also accuse him of helping Lukashenko and Putin achieve their goal, contrary to his own declarations, because this "destabilization" of the hybrid-attacked countries is exactly what it is: chaos, lawlessness, hysteria and internal conflicts. Finally, I accuse him of the fact that the real the threat will fall on us unprepared, divided and defenseless, because nothing is happening that will actually strengthen the Polish border.

While there can be something more terrible than torturing innocent people to death, there are two things: the actual scale of the problem that allows for any civilized solutions and general social consent to the most extreme lawlessness, blunt in mindless cruelty.

By announcing the creation of a "buffer zone", Tusk's government has already done everything possible to show everyone that it continues PiS's current policy of lawlessness to the letter.

tbc

And two comments under the protest which was published in leftist paper:

1
Another madman who dreams of a Confederate government and the EU taken over by nationalists. Fortunately, most Poles want the government to take care of the country's security, not Lukashenko's tourists. By voting for KO, I want a sealed border, because the PiS fence is obviously a fluke...

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I respect the author of the letter and the so-called Street opposition, but I think he has gone too far in his idealism.
First of all, he forgets that Putin and Lukashenka can deliver more planes of migrants at any time. The greater the success rate of the previous group in crossing the border, the greater the number of people willing to complete them.

Secondly, the people who are currently trying to force the border knew perfectly well that they were signing up for the smuggling route. Two years ago, maybe someone would have thought differently, but certainly not now.

Thirdly, the "refugee" system is not prepared for such a number of people. There is and will not be such a number of places in centers and the possibility of integrating these people in a short time (assuming that they would actually like to stay in Poland). Moreover, by saying "let's let everyone through" and clogging the system, real refugees are denied opportunities.

Fourthly, the author seems to deny that people who agree with government policy do not do so out of tribal loyalty, but because they consider it necessary to protect the state. Not for PO, not for PiS, but for the state. There are really many people who did not vote for PiS or PO and who accepted the actions of the "other" government regarding the border.

yeah, Tusk will do better: he will connect the fence to electric power (the idea he himself ridiculed when the wall was being designed and built)

Of course he will.


Of course it is.

That's funny...I never discussed exotic immigrants as renters of my spare bedroom...
Why would any sane white country discuss exotic immigrants - unless it meant to put them in a ZOO cage?

Tusk is already doing better - for the Germans.

Germany Has Begun Dumping Migrants In Poland

"...migrants are being handed over to Polish border guards by German officers and are then transferred to hostels in bordering areas...many of the migrants have told staff that they arrived in Germany from the Netherlands, Austria and other countries, rather than via Poland. Germany makes no secret of its hope that the migration pact will enable it to reduce the number of migrants on its territory."

zerohedge.com/political/germany-has-begun-dumping-migrants-poland

The deal was agreed on by PIS gov. Ha!!!


Shameless liars!!! ):):)

which deal and when - sources please

Hey, stupid Poles...How is that EU open border working for you now?

You can't even deport the scum...hahahahaha...If you tried, Poland would be arrested by the ICC.

You should have asked the Red Army to stay and to use migrants for practice as targets.

And carried out by Tusk!


Why should they lie? It's not like Tusk is going to kick them out. Tusk is going to take good care of them in Poland and then send the bill to Tusktards like you who voted for him! :)


The Germans were smart to wait until after Tusk was installed. If they tried dumping migrants before the last election then PiS would have won again.

The deal called Dublin Agreement, accepted by Poland accessing the EU and not revoked by PiS, which means they agreed with its regulations. Ha!!!!


And earlier by the PiS gov .

infomigrants.net/en/post/49464/germany-requests-the-return-of-1878-migrants-to-poland

Germany reportedly requested the most returns, with a total of 1,878 people set to be sent back to Poland this year.
In comparison, during the course of 2022, there were about 3,929 applications to send asylum seekers back to Poland, said the border police.

I see - well, tell Tusk to revoke it then - he's the self-proclaimed protector of the Polish borders nowadays, isn't he?

Hey, guys, what was the outcome of the last referendum on migrants?

No, Mr Honourable Prime Minister Reverend Donald Holy Tusk does only the things done by PiS gov before. PIS accepted Dublin Agreement and agreed to receive migrants from Germany.


I won`t tell you, bad boy!!!! Ha!!!

But did Poland agree to these requests and accept the applications?

Requests and applications by Germany two years ago asking Poland to accept these migrants is a very different story from today where Germany is now physically dumping migrants in Poland and Tusk is working as a hotelier to accommodate them.