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What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus?


Novichok 4 | 8,117
12 Nov 2021 #811
That evil Lukashenko has to be stopped!!! From dailymail.com:

France is accused of 'ceding territory to people smugglers' after 700 migrants cross the Channel in one day.

Almost forgot...And Putin!!!
jon357 74 | 22,060
12 Nov 2021 #812
Britain gas sent some of the Royal Engineers there now. It looks like there's practical international support at least from the UK.

British troops helping Poland to fortify border with Belarus

telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/12/russias-troop-build-near-ukraine-border-not-routine-drill-say/

Meanwhile (as I said in this thread before), the build up of Russian troops close to certain borders in the region is a major concern and the Poland/Belarus border issue cannot be seen in isolation from that.
Novichok 4 | 8,117
12 Nov 2021 #813
Weakness, that cherished Western character trait, invites aggression. Deal with it, weasels. I hope Putin will accomplish another Crimea.
jon357 74 | 22,060
12 Nov 2021 #814
That means there is no reason to try for Poland and the EU anymore.....

They're just being pushed through the border.
johnny reb 48 | 7,144
12 Nov 2021 #815
Welcome to Poland, Covid, HIV, measles, mumps, rubella, terrorists, economic drain, mixing of races.............
Poland should just transport them to Belarus allie Russia.
Novichok 4 | 8,117
12 Nov 2021 #816
They're just being pushed through the border.

Then push them right back. BTW, nobody is being pushed. They walk.
jon357 74 | 22,060
12 Nov 2021 #817
Easy to say from an armchair thousands of miles away...
Alien 20 | 5,059
12 Nov 2021 #818
@jon357
Wheelchair?
Novichok 4 | 8,117
12 Nov 2021 #819
Easy to say from an armchair thousands of miles away...

Just because your chair is closer your arguments are better?
I used your term - "push" - and it's wrong. Your "pushed" was fine. Is this a new debating technique?
Korvinus 3 | 501
12 Nov 2021 #820
Merkel called Putin about migrants on Polish border, Polish response to that is:

twitter.com/user/status/1458525740794798092

It's an unofficial tweet, but hopefully sends a signal to G*rman blockheads.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,865
12 Nov 2021 #821
I doubt that....that call was about Lukashenko, not Poles....why do you believe she talked about Poland?

twitter.com/bopanc/status/1458385013502844929

Merkel called Putin to ask him to influence Belarusto stop "inhumane and inacceptable" use of migrants at the EU border
Novichok 4 | 8,117
12 Nov 2021 #822
Let's cut the crap...Poland has the right to protect its borders by any means, including the means I can use to protect my home. Like this one...Period.

Merkel called Putin to ask him to influence Belarus to stop "inhumane and unacceptable" use of migrants at the EU border

Migrants are free to move around Belarus. If Lukashenko used force to keep them away from the Polish border, he would be violating 1726 EU rules and be called names by the PF weasels.



johnny reb 48 | 7,144
12 Nov 2021 #823
Easy to say from an armchair thousands of miles away...

Oh the irony.
Remember when you were so cute and antagonizing about our Southern border ?
Now that the shoe is on the other foot your song and dance does a 180.
What would happen if you tried to breech N. Korea's border or Russia's or China's or Iran's, or the Philippines ?
Can anyone answer that ?
Novichok 4 | 8,117
12 Nov 2021 #824
I can. You would be shot dead, which would be better than staying at a re-education camp where the meaning of "illegal" would be explained in fine detail 24/7 at 110 dB.
johnny reb 48 | 7,144
12 Nov 2021 #825
The European Union said Friday that it was alarmed by Russian military activities close to Ukraine's border.
The bloc voiced its concern after Washington demanded an explanation from Moscow about the troop movements, and amid mounting tension between the U.S. and Europe in the west, and Russia and its small ally Belarus in the east.

copy..
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,865
12 Nov 2021 #826
Now after all the bad mouthing against the United States by the E.U.

Well...it wasn't as if Trump had much love for the Europeans in the first place....put the blame where it belongs!

The first thing he did once in office was showing the Europeans the finger and brownnosing the Chinese....what do you expect?
Novichok 4 | 8,117
12 Nov 2021 #827
..put the blame where it belongs!

Hey, BB, I said so many nice things about Germany, so you owe me specifics I can argue with. How do I bite THAT?

Ok, I take it back...
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,865
12 Nov 2021 #828
Blame Trump for the detoriating relationship between the US and the EU....that was never wanted by Germany!

That was a stupid thing to do to put the US trust to Russia and China....
Korvinus 3 | 501
12 Nov 2021 #829
at the EU border

It happens to be Plolish border, which is not G*rman serfdom as yet.
It's kinda funny Merkel did a treaty with US to sanction Russia when it uses Nordstream 2 to sanction Poland.
jon357 74 | 22,060
12 Nov 2021 #830
And now there are Russian paratroopers on the Belarus-Lithuania border, 15 miles from Poland.
twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1459125052180418562
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,865
12 Nov 2021 #831
It happens to be Plolish border, which is not G*rman serfdom as yet.

And here I thought Poland would be also glad to keep the Illegals away from the polish border....what exactly is your problem now?

I find it more humiliating that Merkel is begging Putin for help....that's much worse! As if Lukashenko does anything without Putin's approval....
Novichok 4 | 8,117
12 Nov 2021 #832
showing the Europeans the finger and brownnosing the Chinese....what do you expect?

I will shock you again and take your side...The US has lost the right to preach about morality, EU military funding, and borders because of abortions, trading with China, and the Latino hordes. So from now on, my criticism of Europe is under "don't be as stupid as we here are".

..what exactly is your problem now?

Good question.

I find it more humiliating that Merkel is begging Putin for help...

Spot on. And depressing...
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,865
12 Nov 2021 #833
Hopefully our next chancellor has more of a spine.....
Novichok 4 | 8,117
12 Nov 2021 #834
...and realize that it's OK for Germans to have machine guns again and be ready to use them.
johnny reb 48 | 7,144
12 Nov 2021 #835
it wasn't if Trump had much love for the Europeans in the first place..The first thing he did in office was showing Europeans the finger

..put the blame where it belongs!

O.k. I will put the blame where it belongs....
Damn right as Americans were tired of picking up the tab for defending the E.U.
Trump told the E.U. to $Pony Up$ their share for NATO or the gravy train was over.
Do you blame him ?
And then there was the Russian gas pipeline into Germany where Germany was buying Billions of dollars worth gas from Russia with that money pumping up Russia's military.

And you think it was horrible that Trump gave the E.U. the finger ? LOL
You are right, put the blame where it belongs.
Americans would love to see our military pull out of the E.U. and come home.
Our tax money can be spent elsewhere to make American lives better starting with free healthcare for our tax money instead of defending the ungrateful generation in Europe with American blood.
Novichok 4 | 8,117
12 Nov 2021 #836
From dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10195079/Russia-deploys-paratroopers-Belarus-border-region-amid-fears-conflict.html

Poland has moved some 15,000 troops to its border with Belarus to help contain a migrant crisis that the EU accuses Lukashenko of engineering, amid warnings that the situation could also spill over into conflict

I am proud of you, guys, and I wish I could join you.

BTW, I hope those ARs have live ammo.

A reader's comment worth posting:

This is going to come down to who has the biggest balls...

...and a question: How does one grow a pair with the pussified leftists watching your every move and recording your every word to make sure they are not too harsh and have "please" in every sentence.

Whatever happened to the continent that started two world wars? I am beginning to miss those days...
Novichok 4 | 8,117
12 Nov 2021 #837
This is almost funny...From dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10195311/RAF-jets-intercept-Russian-nuclear-bombers-North-Sea.html

RAF jets intercept Russian nuclear bombers over North Sea as Britain sends troops to help defend Polish borders from Putin-backed 'weaponised migrants'

...while, as we speak, the British border guys actually assist the hordes on boats to safely land in the UK. You know, without it, they could get wet or something...

A reader's comment like mine above:

So we can send troops to Poland to help protect their border but we cant defend our own. Absolute hypocrisy

That evil Lukashenko is everywhere...
mafketis 37 | 10,913
12 Nov 2021 #838
Merkel called Putin to ask him

That's a big part of Putin's motivation. He's been obsessed with trying to impress her for as long as she's been in office.... It's even commented in the Russian language press how much he wants her to admire him.
Crow 154 | 9,004
12 Nov 2021 #839
You've let Poland down in its hour of need suggesting it become as craven and treacherous as Serbia!

What are you talking?

Papacy and Italians (Venice) wanted to rule everything. Like Greeks after all. So our Veliki Zupan Stefan Nemanja (and later Tsar Dushan) gave them both middle finger. He abandoned Catholicism and turned to Orthodoxy but not Greek Orthodoxy. Nemanjic dynasty created Serbian peoples Orthodox Church- St. Sava`s Orthodox Church. In turn both Greeks and Vatican organized cursed us and genocide on Serbs. How we dare not to obey.

So normally, Poland now have to turn its back to madness of papacy. We Serbs would like to see Polish Catholic Church. We have integrative plans from Balkan to Baltic, kind of New Commonwealth. But first we all become independent.

Everybody needs a friend....Crowie too! 🥺

Not at all costs. Not at all costs.

Russia sent two nuclear capable strategic bombers on a training mission over Belarus

Time for Poland consider moving out from NATO and EU and form New Commonwealth with Serbia.
mafketis 37 | 10,913
12 Nov 2021 #840
What are you talking?

You're suggesting that Poland should ally with the human filth and disgrace to slavdom Lukashenka and betray Germany, an ally it is bound with in the EU and NATO.

Time for Poland consider moving out from NATO and EU

If Poland decides to do that.... then so be it. Until then, wanting Poland to betray/attack an ally marks you out as an open enemy of Poland.


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