Poland's post-election political scene

you are one funny guy

So you are imposing your outsider's atheist orientation on Poland and telling Poles that's what they need and should want. Quite arrogant of you, but not surprisng. Thats' what the Brit Bullies are all about: imposing their alien Anglo-Celtic prism on the Polish nation.

But wait, today in Britain Brits held a pro-Christian march through a Moslem neighbourhood carrying large crosses and chanting: "Britain is a Christian country. It is our country!" Seems even Brits are able to come to their senses. although it did require Merkel's folly to catalyse their rethinking.

Who cares and that has nothing to do with the National Socialist PiS Partei that nobody with an IQ over 110 actually supports.

Probably nobody with homosexual orientation but IQ level has nothing to do with it.

Given that the party leader, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, is a practising homosexual, I'd say that you're barking up the wrong tree there. As for IQ, I doubt any serious study has been done on IQ and voting habits. What has been studied in Poland is educational attainment and voting habits. Those studies, available to all show that PiS voters are less likely to have higher or even further education that voters of other parties.

Where are all those statistics from?? Sacked out from the air. Western past time is statistics, all the time statistics where it is best to actually ask people. And since when Kaczynski is a homosexual???

From the Polish government.


Probably since birth. It's not exactly a secret; President Wałęsa outed him on live TV.

He is not, it's one of the PiS haters fantasies.


Yes, Wałęsa is a PiS hater and his favorite party is PO... way to ruin the great things you have done in the past by what you say today.

Kaczynski is as camp as they come. And since you hate gays so much, how is it that he would be immune?

Especially as he is a hateful example of the orientation. Nobody would care about his sexual orientation, but because he is an arrogant and hateful chap, in Britain snide little references to his homosexuality would be all over the tabloids.

And that's a fact. Here, far too much "respect" is afforded these political Berkshire hunts.

Hahaha, how pathetic, this is typical British make believe, out of nowhere juts to discredit someone they attach a label that they know will cause most problems for that person. A feminist politician would be found to be a nympho so she looses women's votes, a famous gay politician would be to be fooling around with women never with men so he would loose gay votes, respected lawyer and anti-drug campaigner would be found to be a long-term secret drug addict, a respected family woman, a model mum and wife would be found to be a mistress of many and home wrecker. All of this manufactured lies to destroy someone that snide British press can not stand.

I concur. Wałęsa said so many stupid things in the past that one more or one less doesn't really matter. The most famous one is "I am for it and even against it". Another one is "puszka z pandorą" and yet another one is "plusy ujemne i plusy dodatnie".

Only the Brit Bullies on the PF believe that Jaro is gay. And it comes naturally that they do since they are well-known PiS haters. And it's part of their Stalinist propaganda they engineer on the PolishForums ever since I have joined.

Well those people wouldn't think of being gay as something bad. I'm not a Brit and don't think there's anything wrong with being gay but I assume that JK is..... not heterosexual (whether bi or gay or something else or even just plain asexual I don't know or really care). If he is gay then he's probably in the self-loathing camp (so to speak).

How do you know? Who told you? One of the Brit Bullies?

It's what makes him such an amazing opportunist. Like almost all of his political positions, he has no real views, only the views that will win him votes.

Absolutely - and desperate it isn't discussed any more than it is already. Amazing how many in the far-right lead double lives which invariably rebound on them - Jorge Haider and Nick Griffin are the classic examples.

With Jaro, it will sooner or later become an issue; depending on whatever blunder his puppet regime does next.

You must be talking about yourself, funny when Komorowski and Tusk were at the throne you did not come up with the same conclusion, it must be about whoever serves your foreign, western capitalist interests who will win your votes.

The "problem" is not that Jarek K is gay, the problem is that in public he condemns homosexuality as per his solled ultra catholic "morals". It is like in the US with jerky Sarah Palin who is also hollier than thou but whose daughter got pregnant at the age of 15 without being married and now one of her sons got arrested because of violence towards his girl friend.

Pure hypocrisy!

Jarek K isn't gay.
But the man who is bumming him definitely is.
Only the bummee is gay, not the bummer.

@Boga: I do NOT care whether he receives or he gives... If he's gay, there is nothing wrong about it, so why not coming out of the closet? ;)

That is the proper approach: condemn the sin not the sinner. Since homosexualtiy is an unwilled affliction, not an act of free will, the Church condemns only the abominable, sinful practice, urging the afflicted individual to abstain. Every devout Catholic is obliged to condemn all forms of perversion including homosexaulity.

It isn't relevant.
It doesn't matter who he is playing "truck and trailer" with.
In between stealing money from incarcerated jews, the Catholic Church has mandated this for many years.
Why change?

@Pol: Homosexality has always been around. I have often read that in Ancient Greece, it was a way to limit births ;). I do NOT know why some people are homosexual (upbringing, chromosomes.... ) but some people ARE homosexuals and you have to accept it. What do you want to do? To kill them? To send them to camps? To have them wear signs on their clothes? To have them disciminated against?

No, a democratic and civilized society must accept ALL its citizens and not stigmatize any!

Easy answer. The bulk of PiS voters (not that there were that many) are elderly, poorly educated, small town/rural, believing in religious superstitions and with a very limited outlook on life.

He doesn't have any support from any other demographic so he's terrified about alienating that one.

At least they're not pervs, snob-boy!!!

" small town/rural, believing in religious superstitions" Hands up that's me, but we have a wonderful crime and terrorist free life, and the countryside is stunningly beautiful.

@Pol: it's pure hypocrisy and you know that they do much worse ;). I once had a client from near Serkiewice (sorry, spelling?) whose neighbor there was made pregnant 3 times by her .. own father. How many of such cases elsewhere? How many pedophiles among priests and nuns?

Homosexuals are NO criminals but pedophiles, incestors and the likes ARE and need to be punished.

Homosexuals don't bother anyboty.

They should always remember they constitute a tiny 1.5-2% minority which does not give them the right to impose their views and priorites on the rest of society. Let them do their thing in private and not flaunt their perversion for everyone to see.

Could you share how you came to that not so brilliant conclusion?


Really? How come? So far he appear to be on of the most restrained and cultured as well as well mannered politician who is being constantly attacked haters, hate speech, slanders and vulgar politicians and other nasty people who lie all the time like Lis for example.


Fact is nobody cares about his orientation but hypocrites and twerps.


In Britain you could have be jailed if they have caught involved in homosexual acts in the 70'. Maybe they didn't implement that law in 70' but few decades or even a decade earlier it was a very real possibility for gays to be jailed.

In Poland homosexuality was never persecuted by the law. Nobody cared , until these damned activist came together with their twisted ideology. Still nobody really cares.

I Would think that those activist if they would really care about homosexuals would be set against using alleged homosexuality of JK as a political weapon against him. Thing is they don't care about gays but about their agenda. Hypocrites.

@Pol. Gays don't force you to become gay so just give them a break! I'm sure they are not obsessed with you the way you are with them.

Once again, LIVE and LET LIVE!

..........who states that refugees "bring diseases....." - also to be fair, repeated by Walesa and the present president among others.

Three guesses who spoon fed them that racist nonsense :) Clue, it's those in "authority" who have a spiked statistical probability of buggering boys.