Poland's post-election political scene

Which the TK ruled on in an entirely predictable fashion. Had PiS waited for the system to work they could be working on their program. Their priorities however are not about impleementing their program apparently.

So you've stood at his side on the bus roof? Interesting. Somehow nobody recalls seeing you there.
Whether you liek it or not, Petru has become the face and voice of the movement -- everyone agrees on that. It's not PO's Neuman nor PSL's Kosiniak. IT'S PETRU!

It's interesting that they haven't really passed a single thing from their programme, it's all just about putting their ex-PZPR men into as many positions of power and influence as possible.


No, Kijowski is the leader of the movement. I assure you that no-one is talking about Petru in our circles.

In our circles...sounds like the confession of a conspirator. Better watch your step. All this will eventually subside, but the label of "foreign subversive" may be hard to live down.

Dunno what goes on among fellow-plotters in your conspiratorial circles but to the average Polish telly watcher and press reader PETRU IS THE FACE AND SPOX OF THE ENTIRE RUMPUS. Most Poles wouldn't know what that old hippie Kijowski even looks like.

The opposition are supposed to be loyal to the state, which is why we are protesting about the PISite attack on the Polish constitution.


Hard to imagine that statement is made from personal experience.

I don't agree.

Read Hansard and other documentation. Diplomats were sick of the Polish insular attitude then, as they are now.

We helped in 1919 by doing the right thing. We helped in 1939, we helped in Martial Law, we helped with EU grants.

Well time for Poland to get it's finger out of it's ( very big) arse. IMO of course.

Or not :)))))

Let's have a referendum on the "refugees".

Why do we need a referendum if there's a clear political consensus that people don't want them?

I'd prefer a referendum on Duda right now. He would almost certainly lose it.

Among "defenders of democracy" :)))))))) ?

Yet another scandal and there will almost certainly be one. He hasn't done well at all. I wonder what his approval rating is.

Saw a photo of a very well-fed Kalisz on FB next to his Jagaur and the caption: "Defending democracy" (antoerh PZPR type in the Petru-Kijowski gang). If I were computer savvy enough to transfer it here I'd happily share it. How do you guys post pix on PF? Is it where you hold down the left mouse and release it at the destination site?

'Fat-shaming' now, Po3?

I wonder how many of the PiS flappers could do with losing a kilo or two...

Is that a word or did you make it up? What about car-shaming? Except that could work both ways -- either driving high (BMW, Jaguar, Mercedes, Alfa as in Kalisz's case) or low (Fiat Panda, Toyota Aygo, etc.).

Google it, Po3, Google it

Geez you have the cheek, that I grant you freely!

If anyone isn't up to date with the sheer nuttiness going on in Poland at the moment, this article is a good one:


theguardian/world/2015/dec/18/polish-military-police-raid-nato-centre-warsaw

"Nato-affiliated counterintelligence" affiliated is the key here it has nothing at all to do with the NATO organisation and NATO have distanced themselves from this incident.

This organisation isn't quite what it seems to be on the surface, a very interesting development I think, have a dig around and you will see what I mean.

All the nutiness is in the newsroom of the Kosher Gazette. Did you get a load of today's headline:
MACIEREWICZ ATTACKS NATO!
They forgot to mention whether he was using a lance or sabre. LOL!

Your post, Po3, is a prime example of such nuttiness.


He had a duplicate key cut and turned up in the middle of the night with goons.

Soon, Po3, soon, sanity will triumph and Macierewicz and Kaczynski will be out.

Sooner you'll be out.... Logistics notwithstanding, MON had every right to replace the hastily PO-stacked research unit. PO thought they were pulling a fast one but were found out and their scheme got nipped in the bud. Hats off to Macierewicz for his vigilance!

Now that, Pol3 is beyond clutching at straws - clutching at hairs from Kaczynski's cats maybe..,

If you are unable to address the issue, as you have no arguments and you were wrong in repeating nonsense it would be so much better if you keep quiet rather then making silly remarks.

Looking in the mirror when you wrote that? Just a weak mirror, by the way, of the various dirty tricks that we've seen.

Back on-topic please

It's a very good article, and the story went viral. Macierewicz's actions have just guaranteed no NATO base in Poland (and probably not anywhere except the Czech Republic) for the next 10 years.

It's actually very much on topic, since the topic involves the current crop of dirty tricks and anti-constitutional behaviour by terrified PiS supporters. Basically they're wrong-footed on every level by the pro-democracy movement and whereas here they can only resort to abuse, in real life as we saw with today's bomb scare and last week's hacking scandal,,Poland's post-election political scene has become very dirty indeed.

It's very very good for us in the opposition. The more dirty tricks, the more people will head to the streets. Their tricks are rubbish anyway.

Quite - that polirical tendency has a reputation for crying wolf anyway, so the current crop of dirty tricks will mean that they can get away with less, and should one of their lame excuses ever in the future be half true, nobody will ever believe them.

I don't thing PiS have fully cottoned on how the Internet works. When they do, they'll probably try to ban it.

Yes, the beautiful thing about PiS is that they're so prone to petty tricks (such as claiming that everyone attending a KOD demonstration was paid) that when they find something genuine, no-one believes it because they've lied so much.


I'm 100% certain they're going to try and introduce some typical PRL-esque **** filter that will 'accidentally' ban other websites too.

Just spotted this cracker of a story : thenews/1/12/Artykul/233432,Polish-National-Stadium-CEO-replaced


In other words, a successful CEO has been replaced with yet another PiS puppet.

you and your dirty tricks and lies are just disgusting.

What did Maciereiwcz do that was illegal? His aides forsaw the option of not being admitted voluntarily, so contingency-wise they resorted to the least drastic way of circumventing the obstacle. The police are known to insert explosive charges and break the door down.

Most importantly, if PO had won the election, do you think they would allow this research unit to be staffed by hand-picked PiS cronies? Not on your life! SO where's the problem? There isn't any but when PiS-bashing ammo is running low, any excuse will do.