Political life of Poland

That is of course my post.

This is how women 'think'. Yes, I am being sacastic. I would win a debate with her in less than a minute on this subject. She knows it and that is why she, like other liberals, always bail out the second they sense a defeat and call the opponents names.

How can you "win" a debate on a subject which has no clear answer? Answer me that, if you can.

Nothing easier. Anyone who is for multiculturalism, immigrants and refugees is acting out his feeeeelings - a liberal "method" of running things. Women are notorious for this kind of mental defect. They do it because it feeeeeels good for a moment. What they will never answer are my two favorite questions: how many and how much.

You want refugees? How many and how much are YOU willing to pay for them? You like gays? OK. How many can a society tolerate and still be viable? You want abortion on demand? Fine. At what rate of abortions are you going to blink and say, Houston, we have a problem? 50%? How about 100%? Is 100% abortion rate tolerable? 100% is unlikely is not an answer. The US lost 50,000,000 babies killed where they should be the safest. So, now we have to import Latino scum to support the Social Security system from the bottom and radically change the ethnic composition of the country in the process. Yes, I like whites more than any other group.

Liberals, as stupid as they are, are still smart enough to recognize that they will lose any debate that starts with a moronic claim based on feeeeelings or individual rights without a thought given to the cost/benefit analysis and the long term consequences.

Another technique I practice debating liberal morons is based on bringing their absurd way of thinking to the extreme. Call it a verbal jujitsu.

Rich, nobody "wants" refugees. They are simply the cost of doing (monkey-)business in a croniest-capitalist society, that's all. Migrants are merely pawns in the chess game known roughly as "All this is Mine, while none of THIS is Yours". Get with the program.

Our own president is known for never wanting to pay anyone for anything he can (legally, though certainly not morally!!) get for free!

Your point is not clear.

Are the migrants the victims or is it the locals who were told to shut up and pay?

Do you personally want more migrants of any kind, fewer, or none in the US?

If nobody wants refugees, why do we and the Euro's drop all that money on them? How about not letting them in if nobody wants them?

Merkel FINALLY realized that just a few weeks ago - and it almost cost her entire coalition falling apart...

Notice the progression though - first they were 'refugees,' people fleeing wars in Syria and Iraq.... then people realized that a tiny fraction of these 'refugees' are actually from countries where an asylum request is valid - namely Syria, Iraq and to an extent Eritrea if we're being generous... and even then the vast majority are young military age males. Look at any picture from the migrant crisis and it's a total sausage fest. There's hardly any chicks coming with them. Anyway, even during this time once people realized they are economic migrants, Merkel said that 'Islam belongs to Germany' and said that these newcomes are 'culturally enriching us.' Well, a few terror attacks and thousands upon thousands of rape cases, now they've become a 'burden' and Merkel and other Marxists insist that other countries 'share the burden.'

When even the most pro-immigration leader in the EU calls these migrants a 'burden' and that EU nations should show solidarity by 'sharing in the burden' it just proves how the vast majority of these economic migrants are definitely not contributing to the society - not financially, not culturally, nothing....

It's quite pathetic how many of these young guys left Syria instead of fighting for their country. I mean freakin' WOMEN picked up the fight - namely the YPG divisions... its pathetic... all the dudes left so now the leftover young women are the ones murkin' isis goat *******....

Also, don't forget the ferocity with which the leftists denied and denied that no go zones exist - including several on here. They refused to acknowledge they exist - despite countless outlets, stories, reports, videos etc and there mere fact that the french call these areas SEZ's showing that no go's DO exist. BUT then merkel came along and finally said that yes, no go's do exist...

Moving the goal post is the favorite globalists' method of dealing with the sheep. Like with global warming. You just can't nail them down with that fraud. Temps up -global warming, temps down - global warming, no change - global warming . Or gay rights. From tolerance, to acceptance, to admiration, and on to the legally protected class status.

Ah the konsTYpacja silverbacks are out in force

Look how open the fat womans in the polska ortalianowkas mouth is rofl

express.co.uk/news/world/986486/poland-controversial-legal-reforms-morawiecki-eu-european-commission

I don't wish anybody dead except for Soros. I can see this sob everywhere.

I did notice that whenever I see the brainless and the stupid screaming about something it's always women with some guys in the background. I guess they were told that if they don't join they will not get something tonight.

Today, Poland faces an existential threat as does Europe. And the top thread here is about Mumbai. Maybe I should start a thread where to park the car going to the Polish Consulate in Chicago.

My point was crystal clear, Rich, simply not grasped by you in it's entirety!

Immigrants have always been a necessary evil, so to speak, the life blood of a failing corpus which found itself in need of cheap labor and quickly. Let's not mince words here; while the former are human beings, just like any other, they have indeed been turned into political footballs by our capitalist society, to be brought in or chucked out as need would have it.

Once, the newcomer was put at the back of the line until they learned our language intelligibly (nobody ever said "perfectly"), had no prior criminal record, and worked their way up to the standing they desired and contributed respectably to society.

Some countries such as our neighbor to the North administer intelligence tests to new arrivals who wish to settle in their country. Perhaps we here in this country should do the same or are we so stymied by the political correctness of civil rights that we've become socially paralyzed and therefore asphyxiated by our own public relations bull?

Immigrants as cheap labor are a repeat of the black slaves being 'a necessary evil' (your words) to pick cotton. And how did this work out? Been to Baltimore lately?

In fact, cheap labor is the reason why the machines capable of doing all that cheap labor were not made sooner. In that sense, cheap labor retards progress.

The question that you and others refuse to answer is: how does Japan manage without immigrants? They do have fast food joins and hotels, don't they? They grow things, too.

Japan is very expensive. I was there twice and didn't see one 'cheap' Somali cab driver. A country without immigrants. Holy crap!

Could we please stay on topic? If you want to chickchat about immigration then please let us reflect over which political parties are for/against immigration in Poland and to what degree. Or you can you all just talk about nonsense?

Immigration is a problem everywhere, Poland included. And so is the politics of immigration. The US should serve as an example how easy it is to screw a county when wrong immigrants are allowed in for all the wrong reasons.

No political party flat out supports immigration esp from me and Africa because the vast majority of polish citizens are against it. Po agreed to take in a few thousand 'refugees' because they were playing eus ***** with tusk as.merkels lapdog. That was one of the big reason why they did so poorly in the electiond and still poles dont trust them. With Ukrainians and other skilled labor and educated, wealthy immigrants esp from China Korea and esp India are coming in and find they are welcomed. A lot of Georgians belrussiand Russians Chechens come in too. Now even w European professionals from places like Italy Portugal even a lot of poles coming back from us and uk. But by far the vast majority are Ukrainian. Pl took in prolly 2 mil migrants since 2015 and no problems with Terror no go zones massive rapes etc.

Those migrants are accepted generally but many poles esp those further to the right don't like them though and feel too many cane at once. Some poles look to Ukrainians as 2nd clad and also don't trust them due to brutal massacres during ww2.

Your description of these groups is very accurate ...

Well Thank you

Which political parties in Poland is for increasing military spending vs against it?

Why would Poland have any military spending? To defend itself from Latvia?

lol!
stop laughing at my friend Mr G.

3 parties which make the ruling United Right are divided and at odds with each other over a few important issues. Personal ambitions of their leaders also lead to constant tension. Their alliance has been rotting for a few months and the polls show they have no chance to win the majority in the Parliament like before.

There are two options - either they will break up and there will be earlier election. Or they will manage to keep united till 2023. Which is better?

Some experts suggest letting them rot and discredit themselves even more. The opposition shouldn`t take power now when the country is in complete mess caused by rightists.

Are we observing the formation of a new alliance between neo-bolsheviks from PIS and ex-communists from the Left? Very interesting development when the Left offered PIS a life saver by voting for European funds, without making sure they will be spent honestly, not only among PiS supporters.

We mustn`t forget they aren `t so distant, PiS has former comrades in their ranks.

I read an interesting text about a possible coalition between the two in the future.

rp.pl/Felietony/304279914-Lukasz-Warzecha-Poczatek-milosci.html

Comrades of PiS and Left, unite!! Only Lenin is missing. hahahaha

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hahaha Kaczynski is playing with the oppostion like his cat plays with mice. Total massacre. In the end PO did not have the guts to vote against the development fund. PO look like fools (as usual.)

Exactly. I wonder what Left voters say to this new alliance. Will they like it???


They were never against it so stop lying about them.

But PO and Baboon were saying it's only money for PiS not for Poland. And then PO don't have the guts to vote against the PiS Fund. What a cowardly joke they are .

- the voting on the european recovery plan was supposed to be a part of the plan of toppling the current government - as Mr Cezary Tomczyk of PO said: we will topple this government, we don't think about anything else: tvp.info/53532099/cezary-tomczyk-o-obaleniu-pis-nie-myslimy-o-niczym-innym

Please, don`t quote regime`s propaganda outlet, it is simply indecent. . While talking about Katyń, did you also use stalinist sources to back up your arguments claiming that Polish officers were executed by Germans? Did you???

Yes of course, but we are not discussing your families hisotry 1932-1953 in this thread. Please stay on topic.

is this a better source for you:wiadomosci.radiozet.pl/Polska/Cezary-Tomczyk-Obalimy-ten-rzad.-Rozmawiamy-z-2-poslami-koalicji-rzadzacej

Yes, much better. :):) So yes, they were planning to topple the government. So what? It is natural in parliamentary democracies. Much better than a revolution. :):) But it doesn`t mean they would reject the recovery plan. Eventually, they would vote for it after introducing necessary changes.

I was trying to show you the motivation of Platforma behind their attempts to block the ratification of the European recovery programme scheme


their demands were outlandish (zaporowe): giving all the money to municipal authorities