Poland to officially demand $1.32 trillion WW2 reparations from Germany

Spot on! He is always crying about white supremacists and accusing others here of being one. You know how leftards are always blaming other for exactly what theyre doing. Case in point!

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Yes, socialism (and its more radical kind - communism) is as disgusting and vomit-inducing as fascism (and its more radical kind - nazism). Having said that, I don't think Pawian is a leftist. He hates PiS and is old enough to remember "good old days", and he can surely draw numerous analogies between PiS and PZPR (also personal analogies - there's literally throngs of post-communist PZPR apparatchiks in PiS).

I think that everything the Poles do is at the American behest. Germany planned to strengthen the army, some spoke of a "European army", etc. The USA wants to nip such attempts in the bud, these are petty provocations to make fun of German influence.

@Crnogorac3
Just because Russians would perform every order if in same situation as Poland. Doesn't mean that Poland does it right now, does it?

You can shove your paranoia and BDM fixations where the sun doesn't shine at the Russian local recruitment centre.

Brate. Brate, don`t underestimate Poland. Poland knows how things stand.

Poland opened old wound with Germany exactly at the moment when Germany once again penetrated Balkan onto Serbian lands, sending unwelcome troops (via EU Altea mission) to Bosnia, no matter all Serbian protests.

And look Milorad Dodik (President of Serb Republic- entity in Bosnia-Herzegovina) won again on elections. Again. And who financing him? Polonia. Corey Lewandowski pumping the money via his private company.

Now take a good look at the situation.

Poland probing situation in Galicia and on Balkan. Russia is not a problem. Russia knows Galicia belongs to Poland. Russia do has its own interests with Serbs but, Russia, as always, respects Serbian-Polish projects.







Then there is the Tusk and Kashubs, Lusatians, Lemki and all other Northern Serbs. Balkan-Baltic (Limes Sorabicus) line is ancient one. Germany already violated that line by destroying Yugoslavia and creating Croatia (as part of its own sphere) on Serbian lands. You know what that mean? Germany would be pushed back. Peace now between Poland and Germany is just a prelude to a new war.

! Even if all other may appear to be `nice` between Poland and Germany, have in mind that its not Russia that cut the vital line of life for Poland (Adriatic Balkan-Baltic line) but it is Germany.

Politics is politics.

But Poland shall live. And Serbia.

@Cojestdochlery,
It's not a question of "folding" or not folding!
Do you understand what you posted?? "To fold" means either to go out of business, go under, or to submit to.

"You're not naive, aren't you." You meant,
"You ARE naive.......",. Now the sentence makes some sense.

I'm not naive, rather curious as to what Poland intends to do after being rebuked so sharply by Baerbock.

In winter time, when there are shortages of energy, rightard PiS government is going to beg Germans for aid. On the one hand, business as usual. On the other, reparations. Those PiS gangsters are such hopeless hypos.

What has Poland done to be punished so cruelly by God with such mentals in power??? What?? I am asking you. Yes, Polish nazionalists mistreated and even murdered Polish Jews. But wasn`t it forgiven already??


Darling, you are losing time. Bashing rightards in this and other fora is my hobby and you must be nuts if you think you can change it. You are like last year`s snow to me.

My point precisely!
As you and others here are doubtless aware, way back in '52, not long after the War and during the throws of the rebuilding of West Germany at the time of the Economic Miracle, the then West German gov't. rejected Poland's first proposal for restitution under Adenauer.

I see little to any reason why under Scholz the answer would be any different.

That is not prergorative of a perpetartor to make calls in their own casue. A victim - Poland - could give up all claims that our prerogative. It is not up to Germany to singlehandly dismiss that claim.

I rather agree with that last statement, actually.
However, Poland has been making such claims for nigh unto almost seventy years and I suppose the present German administration is getting just a little tired of it!

The entire question anyway as to what constitutes "lost" property remains open to debate, according to legal scholars.

Quoting:

The Polish territory in 1919-39 covered an area of 386,418 square kilometres (149,197 square miles). But from 1947, Poland's territory was reduced to 312,679 square kilometres (120,726 square miles), so the country lost 73,739 square kilometres (28,471 square miles) of land.

First, Poland should have been compensated by the Allies with German land and restored to its pre-war size.

Easier said than done!
Germany has had claims of her own, you know:-)

Germany signed an unconditional surrender. He who signs an unconditional surrender cannot, by definition, have claims.

What you say is typically from the Allies' point of view, Rich!
Germany operated from a different logic during the War, most of which was brought out at the Nuremberg Trials.
Considered "illegal" after '45, against the Geneva Convention etc. was deemed legal, right, and justified from '33-'45 as part of German law under Adolf Hitler. Technically, the Nazis weren't "breaking the law", since theirs WAS the sole existing law while Hitler remained in power.

The Nazis annexed conquered territories right and left. Determining what belonged to whom following the collapse of the Third Reich took years of wrangling.

And as you can plainly see, the fight is not over yet.

Poland got shafted because Roosevelt was sick and the Allies were too tired and exhausted to bicker with Stalin. German laws were irrelevant.
The simple fact is that Poland lost people and property because of Germans and territory because of the US. The other two were metoos and didn't count.

Yup!
That about sums it up precisely!

The first part of your statement is true.
The question though of reclaiming formerly "German" territory seized by Hitler and then "returned" legally to Poland remains at issue and is likely to remain so inspite of what appears black/white.

Lyzko....can't you let this topic and this thread go it's natural way, meaning die!

I assume you have strong feelings on this subject, B.B.
Just sent a private mail as I couldn't quite make out what precisely you meant. Or were you being your usual sarky self?

Agreed.

Lyzko, this thread is pointless and counter productive.

And so are your intentions on continuing with it.

Don`t be stupid. Of course it is very interesting. Even curious after finding out recently that PiS losers have in fact sent a diplomatic note to Germany but without mentioning any reperations. Amassing. It seems those PiS rightard idiots (why are most rightards such idiots, btw??? ) are playing dirty games with their moronic voters.

Thank you, Pawku.
At least one decent thinking member left on PF!

Of course there are more decent members here. One requirement only - they mustn`t be rightards. :):):)

As for the reparations, it seems that PiS are saying one thing to their idiot voters and another to Germans. Amassing. One can guess easily why - PiS is still counting on German help in winter time! Ha!

Its very wise that Poland tickling Germany these days.

No, PiS rightards are too scared to do it. They only make a lot of noise in the media but when it comes to action, they are impotent losers. :):):)

It would be better not to start at all.

Don`t weep like old woman. Poles have right to ask for money

....I don't cry about the money....it's more your petting part actually...

Refuse false moral. Open yourself.