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Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment?


Crow  154 | 9314
2 Oct 2022   #331
Pa@

Put yourself above viable reality. Don`t be like my grandmother sometimes.

Think logical. If I am THEM (USA and Russia) I would give a call to Britain to send submarine and drop few containers with gas to leak on the line of Nordstream. That`s how this function.

See. Show must go on.

But sure, many will die. Its part of the process.
Crnogorac3  3 | 658
2 Oct 2022   #332
t.me/hotptakes/3683

Just a few days after the Americans destroyed the Nordstream, Poland opened the Baltic Stream, which brings natural gas from Norway to replace the Russian one.

It's interesting how it all fell into place.

t.me/hotptakes/3689

In the days before the Americans blew up Nordstream, German authorities nationalized Russian refineries in Germany.
PolAmKrakow  2 | 945
2 Oct 2022   #333
@Crnogorac3
And if that's what happened, I say BRAVO, BRAVFVCKINGO. Russian gas and oil? Never again. It doesn't matter who blew it up. The net result is fantastic for everyone. Don't you have some rats to catch for dinner?
johnny reb  48 | 7744
2 Oct 2022   #334
The people (if it was done by humans, that is) who would put those explosives on the Nord Stream would likely be technician-divers

It wasn't done by divers, P.
This is 2022, not 1944.

https://polishforums.com/news/poland-nord-stream-dangerous-natural-23482/11/#msg1878235

"The magnitude of the explosions was measured at 2.3 and 2.1 on the Richter Scale, respectively, probably corresponding to an explosive load of several hundred kilos of T.N.T."

"how difficult would it be for the U.S. Elite Navy Seals to send in an unmanned stealth drone sub packed with T.N.T.

and park it right on top of the pipeline with G.P.S. coordinates and cameras ?
Paulina  16 | 4338
2 Oct 2022   #335
It wasn't done by divers, P.

I don't claim that divers did it. Cms neuf mentioned divers and so I commented that RuSSia has such units.
Crow  154 | 9314
2 Oct 2022   #336
We are not on this Earth only for resources and energy. We are to walk as humans and in the image of our ancestors so Svetovid is pleased with us.

So let us pray

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Svetovid, Lord of Sarmatians when I lay my vengeance upon you!
johnny reb  48 | 7744
2 Oct 2022   #337
I don't claim that divers did it.

I see that Paulina.
I was making light that the U.S.A. has stealth underwater unmanned drones that are maneuvered by a control room back in Texas or someplace by g.p.s. cordinates and cameras to go to an exact location with a huge payload of T.N.T. like the kind that took out the pipeline.

So let us pray

One more reason that I respect you, Crow.
johnny reb  48 | 7744
2 Oct 2022   #338
Cms neuf mentioned divers

That was a sophisticated operation, carried out in stealth in the shallow depth of the Danish straits.
That would in principle rule out submarines (ships entering the Baltic are limited to a draught of 15 meters).
As for prospective "invisible" vessels, these could only loiter around with permission from Copenhagen as the waters around Borholm are crammed with sensors, reflecting fear of incursion by Russian submarines.

This is why I am leaning toward smaller stealth drones, Paulina.
pawian  221 | 25301
2 Oct 2022   #339
the U.S.A. has stealth underwater unmanned drones

Man-operated kamikaze submarines are more accurate.
Miloslaw  21 | 5022
2 Oct 2022   #340
. All that risk for little gain?

There is plenty to be gained.

And/or the Poles.

Yeah, maybe.

Whoever has done it, it's the right thing to do

Exactly.
I just don't see why the Russians would do it.
Miloslaw  21 | 5022
2 Oct 2022   #341
That was a sophisticated operation, carried out in stealth in the shallow depth of the Danish straits

Which is why I think this was either Yanks or Brits or both together.
But both countries are able to do this on their own.
johnny reb  48 | 7744
2 Oct 2022   #342
Man-operated kamikaze submarines are more accurate.

Sources please.
My bet is that the Danes were warned in advance that those drones were coming.
I wonder how many NATO drones are lying dormant in the Black Sea waiting to take out Putin's Navy if Putin is dumb enough to use tactical nukes.
johnny reb  48 | 7744
3 Oct 2022   #343
Which is why I think this was either Yanks or Brits or both together.

Recent Nord Stream pipeline ruptures were likely acts of Russian sabotage, according to experts.
And we ain't no experts.
johnny reb  48 | 7744
4 Oct 2022   #344
And here is the latest today on the matter.
A former Pentagon advisor says the most likely culprits behind the Nord Stream pipeline blasts are the United States and Britain, and that the attack was carried out to prevent Germany from bailing on the war in Ukraine.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820
4 Oct 2022   #345
na ja.....the info I could found about that spoke about "isolate" Germany.....that sounds alot different!

zerohedge.com/geopolitical/former-pentagon-advisor-says-us-likely-attacked-nord-stream-pipelines-isolate-germany

...Referring to Polish MEP Radoslaw Sikorski's infamous deleted tweet in which he wrote, "Thank you, USA," Macgregor noted, "Who else might be involved? Well the Poles apparently seem to be very enthusiastic about it."...

K. has it out for Germany, with the reparation demands and all that....why not destroy that pipeline too?
amiga500  5 | 1503
4 Oct 2022   #346
you have been reading too many polandballs, that general macgregor has been on tucker every month since the start saying ukraine has lost the war. he's a loon.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820
4 Oct 2022   #347
you have been reading too many polandballs

...I'm addicted....I admit....
Kashub1410  6 | 580
4 Oct 2022   #348
@Bratwurst Boy
Mr. K isn't neither Polish President or Polish Prime Minister. I would be surprised if Polish Special Forces or Polish intelligence Services are tied to Mr. K as their trumph card is being as profesional as possible to keep their positions and earnings.

So being tied directly to Mr. K is nearly impossible for them. Mateusz Morawiecki is a former businessman and comes off as shrewd, so he might have pulled it off. Don't think he would risk it tho, I wouldn't be surprised if he is one of the most pro-Germany PiS members due to business background. If Germany wants an entry into PiS party. Morawiecki is the man, his political standing would also reduce Ziobro and KaczyƄski's influences.
Crow  154 | 9314
4 Oct 2022   #350
Let us not exclude already demonstrated and well known German suicidal capabilities. What if Germany destroyed Nord Stream?
Korvinus  2 | 570
4 Oct 2022   #351
You, of course, realize that Poland has opposed any kind of Baltic pipeline from the start, from Nordstream 1? Our position has no changed, Germany can not and will not be allowed to import Russian resources bypassing us.

As you can see this Polish position has finally been realized and we are celebrating.

So excellent job "whoever" did this. Build the fuc*king wall around Russia, no trade, no open borders, nothing. Big beautiful wall.
pawian  221 | 25301
4 Oct 2022   #352
What if Germany destroyed Nord Stream?

What if Megalodon destroyed it?????
Crow  154 | 9314
4 Oct 2022   #353
I was serious.
pawian  221 | 25301
4 Oct 2022   #354
I tried to catch up with your seriousness.
Crow  154 | 9314
4 Oct 2022   #355
Sanctions to Russia are equally suicidal as sabotage of the Nord Stream. Its all EU and Germany. Same kitchen.
pawian  221 | 25301
4 Oct 2022   #356
Sanctions to Russia are

a blessing coz they offer RuSSians a chance to give up their imperial obsessions, reform and join the family of civilised nations after their economy finally collapses and all RuSSia experiences another period of Time of Trouble. I can`t wait to see it with my own eyes. Ha!
Miloslaw  21 | 5022
4 Oct 2022   #357
What if Germany destroyed Nord Stream?

Please,don't be a twat!

Big beautiful wall

Yes!

Nordstream was not destroyed by Russia.
johnny reb  48 | 7744
5 Oct 2022   #358
Please,don't be a twat!

Yeah, it would be just awful to have two of you here.

Nordstream was not destroyed by Russia.

Sources please.

Now a little history lesson from back in 1982 for you kids.
In January 1982, President Reagan approved a CIA plan to sabotage the economy of the Soviet Union through covert transfers of technology that contained hidden malfunctions, including software that later triggered a huge explosion in a Siberian natural gas pipeline.

The United States was attempting to block Western Europe from importing Soviet natural gas.
In order to disrupt the Soviet gas supply, its hard currency earnings from the West, and the internal Russian economy, the pipeline software that was to run the pumps, turbines, and valves was programmed to go haywire, after a decent interval, to reset pump speeds and valve settings to produce pressures far beyond those acceptable to pipeline joints and welds.

The result was the most monumental non-nuclear explosion and fire ever seen from space, as U.S. satellites picked up the explosion.
The blast occurred in the summer of 1982.
There was significant damage to the Soviet economy.
Did the C.I.A. and history just repeat itself only with T.N.T. this time ?
pawian  221 | 25301
5 Oct 2022   #359
Did the C.I.A. and history just repeat itself only with T.N.T. this time ?

This or that perpetrator, what matters is the pipeline is knocked out and Europe won`t sponsor RuSSist wars with gas income. Excellent!
Miloslaw  21 | 5022
5 Oct 2022   #360
Sources please.

Hahaha!

Read your own post....... You believe the same as I do!


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