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Poland leads nations in raising 90 million euros for Belarus opposition


wildrover 98 | 4,451
4 Feb 2011 #31
The older tanks , those not up to date , are usually given to the national guard....

they keep them running and serviced...

eventually they get scrapped...
czar 1 | 143
4 Feb 2011 #32
come to think of it since it is OT heh, i was watching a comparison of ww2 tanks how the nazis were machined and finished taking longer to build and less able to deflect ammo, where as the russains had casting defects left and other things youll have to look up, it finished with a modern day isreali tank with a smaller army they are made much heavier...speed is of the essence or a balance. anyway,

i dont really know whats going on other than the same old story, thats why i came on here they have not reported this AT ALL in usa, bye

...this is off wiki sooo...
As the names "Ruthenia" and "Rus" have very often been confused with their modern derivative "Russia", White Ruthenia has often been referred to as "White Russia". This misinterpretation has been supported by the Moscovite regents after the fall of Kievan Rus. The Moskovite dukes, starting with Ivan IV, considered themselves to be the rightful successors of the Ruthenian grand duke dynasty, and their use of the name "Russia" as referring to all former Ruthenian (east slavic) lands became a political weapon and a casus belli for claiming the west Ruthenian territories from Lithuania and Poland.
Ironside 50 | 11,260
4 Feb 2011 #33
Will the Belarusian people get inspired by what is happening in Egypt and overthrow Lukashenko?

That would be stupid of them!

And how come that the U.S ain't giving the Belarusians the same support like they did to the Poles in the 80's?

Trying to poke their snout in there?
southern 75 | 7,096
4 Feb 2011 #34
Belarus doesn't take money from the West to feed its citizens like Egypt.Belarus gets russian cash and the flow remains stable.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
4 Feb 2011 #35
Belarus gets russian cash and the flow remains stable.

For now...
southern 75 | 7,096
4 Feb 2011 #36
Belarussians also love Russians while they are not so fond of the West.In fact I never pointed out why the country is called White Russia since there exists no Black Russia.
Crow 149 | 9,400
4 Feb 2011 #37
Poland leads nations in raising 90 million euros for Belarus opposition

i worry for Poland. i seriously worry for Poland

so, i won`t think that `Poland leads nations in raising 90 million euros for Belarus opposition`. Its rather `Polish leadership pledge to sacrifice even Polish people, on the behalf of its masters from so called west`

Poles, my brothers... Luca is dictator but, Luca is small fish. True dictators and greedy monsters live on so called west. Democracy? We all know that its not about democracy. Masks falling down... its clash of civilizations over limited resources. We should stick with our sides, with our people, within our civilization.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
4 Feb 2011 #38
In fact I never pointed out why the country is called White Russia since there exists no Black Russia.

Wasn't the Ukraine known as Black Russia or Black Ruthenia so named for its rich dark hued soil?
wildrover 98 | 4,451
4 Feb 2011 #39
Ukraine was known as the bread basket of the Soviet union... their rich dark soil was great for growing food...
Ironside 50 | 11,260
4 Feb 2011 #40
why the country is called White Russia since there exists no Black Russia.

there was in the past black Russia - and no its wasn't Ukraine !there was also red Russia!
And to be exact these wasn't called Russia but Rus !
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
4 Feb 2011 #41
Ah i see Black Ruthenia was in the Western part of todays Belorussia this must be the reason for the black half of their flag.
Natasa 1 | 580
4 Feb 2011 #42
I heard somewhere that Belarus, has that prefix (possibly wrong, the source is not so reliable, drinks a lot:)), is an old word for the west used by Old Slavs, that would explain Belarus, as western from russia, also Belgrade (Beograd) would be some city in the west for our eastern Slavs. (belo = west, according to that source).

Crow should know, or lodz.

That is how they told me.

What opposition? :)))
southern 75 | 7,096
4 Feb 2011 #43
What opposition? :))

I think the opposition are some guys wearing masks like those in the film Scream.
Natasa 1 | 580
4 Feb 2011 #44
Scream.

So fans are getting 90 mill.
if I would be from Belarus I would stick to the handsome Luka.
Mustaches.
Appearance is everything.

I read recently an article in one of western male magazines published here too, a travelers report from Belarus. (now am I a man or a woman, why am I buying male magazines :))

They say it's all propaganda.(PR)
Author said that it is a nice, clean country.
In Ordnung. Like Germany. That means perfect in my world.
All girls look like models.(in Belarus, not Germany)
southern 75 | 7,096
4 Feb 2011 #45
All girls look like models

Yes,I have posted photos of Belarusskaye.I have enjoyed their graces.Lukashenko himself has declared belarussian beauty a national treasure that must be confined within the country.I agree with comrade Lukashenko.
czar 1 | 143
4 Feb 2011 #46
belarus and ukraine was part of poland from kiev to minsk so when you refer to bread basket of bueaty that was poland
or is or will be depend how you look at it.
white russia means not invaded by mongols, not anymore
Crow 149 | 9,400
5 Feb 2011 #47
belarus and ukraine was part of poland from kiev to minsk so when you refer to bread basket of bueaty that was poland
or is or will be depend how you look at it.

and all that was Sarmatia, let us not forget that
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259
26 Feb 2011 #48
The Karta Polaka

Oh, please explain me what dose this "Palka v Kloake" mean!
PennBoy 76 | 2,436
26 Feb 2011 #49
Listen Chernenko a pro communist imperialist like yourself could never understand.
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259
26 Feb 2011 #50
I doubt that you know who Chernenko really was... The point is that American Poles is most illiterate and blindfolded species that exists on Earth.
PennBoy 76 | 2,436
26 Feb 2011 #51
I doubt that you know who Chernenko really was...

I know much about Russian history, of course i know who Konstantin Chernenko was, and Andropov and Ustinov.

The point is that American Poles is most illiterate and blindfolded species that exists on Earth.

I didn't get my knowledge of Russia from American school books, i'd probably know close to nothing if i did, i got it from being a history buff and reading in my free time.

I have Russian friends and like Russian people but you seam to me like a hypocritical nationalist who only posts bad things about others and will never admit to any Russian wrongdoings.
Malopolanin 3 | 133
26 Feb 2011 #52
If Lukashenko gave me 90 million euro, in Poland, the opposition could finally break through the Gang of Four media oligopoly. Unfortunately, the SLD, PO, PiS and PSL would not allow the use of such assistance. Poland is a totalitarian and oppressive country, fighting the opposition.
wildrover 98 | 4,451
26 Feb 2011 #53
If Lukashenko gave me 90 million euro,

You could buy Belarus for that....!
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259
26 Feb 2011 #54
never admit to any Russian wrongdoings.

Is there any?

I didn't get my knowledge of Russia from American school books,

You can read! That is already something to work with. I take my words back.

you seam to me like a hypocritical nationalist who only posts bad things about others

Why hypocritical? Actually I thought that I am most honest man on this forum. I cannot hide that I hate:

- Poles
- Americans
- Brits
- Others

How can you name this "hypocritical"? Quite the opposite, trying to rise 90 millions for some mythical opposition by one of the poorest state in Europe, what else may be more hypocritical?
PennBoy 76 | 2,436
26 Feb 2011 #55
Is there any?

LOL

You can read! That is already something to work with.

LOL

I cannot hide that I hate:

- Poles
- Americans
- Brits
- Others

Let take a minute to find out a lil about the man behind the mask, why do you HATE these people? hate is a strong word. I've heard from Russian that Poles hate them, but i've never heard them say they hate Poles.
Torq
26 Feb 2011 #56
- Poles
- Americans
- Brits
- Others

The first place - YES! Poland is the best, even in Constantine's hate ranking!

But it is surprising to me that the Asian nation hates us so much. One would think
that they should concentrate more on similar, neighbouring nations (like Mongolia,
for example.) Oh, well - still it's nice to be in the first place (or in the pole position,
if you will.)
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259
26 Feb 2011 #57
Let take a minute to find out a lil about the man behind the mask, why do you HATE these people? hate is a strong word. I've heard from Russian that Poles hate them, but i've never heard them say they hate Poles.

Simply because they are from another tribe. Isn't it a sufficient reason?
PennBoy 76 | 2,436
27 Feb 2011 #58
Actually Russians are the closest thing to Poles based on real genetics research, Poles are something between Czechs and Russians leaning more towards Russians. Even Vladimir Putin say that...
southern 75 | 7,096
27 Feb 2011 #59
Simply because they are from another tribe.

Isn't the dream of every Russian to be a Poljak?
sascha 1 | 826
27 Feb 2011 #60
- Others

Who are those??


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