Karol Nawrocki - the New President of Poland

And that's a quote from my comment addressed to johnny_reb from just two days ago. You must've seen that comment, because you took part in that discussion and your comment is also on the same page.

In case you forgot that fragment already I'm going to throw it again into your lying face:

"I am (and probably majority of Poles) very thankful for what the US did for Poland for years"


Where did I lie, you f*cked up psycho? Nowhere. You have no proof, only your disgusting lies.


You're a pathological liar. You lie, twist and invent complete bullsh1t about people very, very often.

He is the same as JR Jim and Novichok Rich,just liars,twisters and bull$hitters!

The answer is staring you in the face. You lie twice in one sentence.First, who or what f*ucked me? Second, I, unlike you, never set foot in the psychiatrist's office
So, who designated me as a psycho?Your frequent sessions with the head shrinker do not make you a licensed professional, so based on facts, you are
disgusting, twisted liar, attractive for a lady in her fifties, but swearing like a sailor.

Oh yeah, order a few bottles of humor, satire, and sarcasm, drink them all up, wait a few hours, and see if the obstruction responsible for your constipation loosens up and sets your twisted lying soul free. As your friend and admirer, I wish you well

Yes Paulina, we Americans sarcasm that is so obvious to not being the truth is not a lie.
Only a stiff lipped Euro would take it as a real lie so they could diminish and shame even if they knew the Yank was saying it with tongue in cheek.
Like if I said that you are bigger than a house and you called me a pathological liar.
NO SHlT ! you are not as big as a house as that is what is called sarcasm.
Now either get that once and for all or we will have to blame it on your mid age sexual frustrations.
Your choice, so knock it off as you are driving everyone nuts with your pathological bullshit.
Act your age and let your hair down.
Do you know what let your hair down means ?
TO BEHAVE IN AN UNINHIBITED OR RELAXED WAY.
Its no wonder you can't get along with men.
Just saying....

Do you admire her as much as I love jon?


We deliver what you deserve.

To make your life easier...Assume that everything I post is a lie and bullshlt. I just relieved you of a lot of effort...

BTW, I noticed your silence when your buddy, jon, lies that Russia today is as bad as was Hitler's Germany...

You should love or, at least, admire him if that is the case. After all, you admire Trzaskowski and Tusk.

Is it an idioms?

Well, Rich, I love Jon as much as I admire lovely Patlina, maybe more. There is no limit to my love and admiration.

Polish director Ms. Niewiera suggests in Berlin that Mr. Nawrocki won the election only thanks to the support of russian propaganda

Bollox!!!! Where is the evidence?

Polish/German director.


These maggots don't need evidence, just like with Nawrocki being a pimp and Duda pardoning a pedofile.

Amiga, you are a complete wimp that is in urgent need of counseling.

Agreed!


He's completely nuts!!

Watch this video arse-lickers!!!

I don't know, but I don't see much benefit for Russia in supporting PiS. Only maybe that PiS is against the EU.

A week has passed, I am still a bit angry that Nawrocki is our new president; mostly at Kaczyński for backing this marionette instead of a decent candidate like Jurek, Ryszka or Nowak and for Tusk for not forcing Sikorski as the democratic candidate, but it was more than that... promises broken, the same old PiS-style corruption (despite swearing that it will change), idiotic attacks at the Church. Tusk has to step aside, he f*cked up big time and now has to pay for it.

As for Nawrocki's great victory - he should thank 1 million of voters of Trzecia Droga and Lewica who stayed at home last Sunday. Their voices would give Trzaskowski a comfortable victory (he lost by 370k votes). And let's not forget those leftist 1st round voters of Senszyn (almost 20%), Zandberg, Hołownia and Biejat who voted for Nawrocki in the 2nd round. Perhaps Gajewska's antics with the bag of potatoes pissed them off? Perhaps it was the unashamed kissing the butts of real estate developers by the current government and local authorities?

Oh, well... maybe it's all for the better. Tusk and KO learnt the hard way that stupidity has its price. Maybe it will force them to change their ways. If not, f*ck 'em - it's an old cliché but it's really patria not partia that counts.

There is a picture somebody posted here on PF with butthurt cream, you might find it useful.
As to your feelings, you got over it, his election is good for Poland.
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The thing is, he was and is not a member of PiS, and knowing a few things about him, he might be much more than some JK puppet.
On top of it, JK is almost 80.
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There is a prison for a few people of this Tusk government for breaking the law, as there is no tomorrow, and their corruption is nothing like PiS corruption; it is much worse.
All those CPL and nuclear plants are on hold. They talk about how much they are doing things, but they are doing nothing. After two years, even a toddler can tell.
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I don't undsratnd why do you support some old PSL or PO BS, you know this PO and PiS is crap, is only a difrfent shade of crap. You perverf more commies, progressive like kind of crap. But i wonder why do you support crap at all?
Why not Konfederacja, Braun or Zanberg?
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Indeed, and Trump is a Russian agent, those tossers are talking like that. So far, it has been discovered that the Trzaskowski camp received substantial help from foreign NGOs. Your guess who stands behind that help is as good as mine.

I will be butthurt if Poland suffers because of Nawrocki. At the moment what happened cannot unhappen, so I am giving him the benefit of the doubt and a credit of trust. Let's see what he does with it.


He went to Nowogrodzka to talk to Kaczyński almost right after being elected. This doesn't look like something an independent president would do. But hey, if he proves me wrong, all the better for Poland.


Because they are a down to the ground, peasant, commonsensical, Christian, centrist party. Poland needs calm, steady growing in power and development, without extremities - either on the left or on the right. Poland needs politicians who can make deals and agree with everyone, depending on the current situation and needs of our country. You ask me about Zandberg and Braun - could Braun make decent, useful for Poland, compromises with everyone as such need arises? Could Zandberg? No, because they are extremists, either towards quasi-fascism or quasi-communism. We don't need that, we don't need extremities; we need to quietly get rich, quietly grow in power, and quietly sharpen our knives (just in case).

That's why PSL.

Excuses. Braun is down-to-earth as they come.

Post-communist party as well they never enter into a coalition with even a mildly right party. They are supporters of the post-communist and left-wing, progressive parties in Poland.
Your reasons are not compelling. Are those the real reasons?

God knows, someone blind and deaf probably lol


I've never claimed that I set foot in a psychiatrist's office or that I'm in my fifties. 🤨


Me. It's my personal opinion about you though and not a "lie". You, on the other hand, lie about facts which can be easily checked - my comments are here on this thread for everyone to see.


You're projecting as usual. 🤮

What Ptak is writing about me, my comments and my supposed intentions behind those comments is clearly serious, not "tongue in cheek" and not true, so what the hell are you even talking about? 🤦


I have no problem getting along with normal men. Ptak is not normal though.


I'm afraid there's noone who could replace him (or at least I'm not aware of such a person).


They did? You have a link?

Nonsense. PO is a right party. Lewica in Poland is almost nonexistent (26 MPs out of 460). Besides PSL cooperates with PiS all over Poland on samorząd level. It's the most pragmatic, down-to-earth, centrist party.


Sawicki or Sikorski. Either would do a much better job, and Sawicki would add an extra bonus of being a conservative.


Read it somewhere on paper (either Plus-Minus or Wyborcza) that out of those who voted for Trzecia Droga and Lewica in the parliamentary elections in 2023 (3.1 million and 1.9 million), 1 million stayed at home (that's 20%!) in the 2nd round of presidential elections. If this demobilisation of democratic 2023 electorate hadn't happened, Nawrocki wouldn't have been elected the president.

Oh Phooey, Of course they are. (Do you know what "phooey means" ?)
He is just "busting your chops", Paulina. (Do you know what that means ?)
Let your hair down and act your age while learning to laugh at yourself. (Do you know what that means ?)
That's what the hell I am talking about.
You need to learn American sarcasm so you don't have these meltdowns that show your ignorance.
Stop being such a stick in the mud thick headed Pollack. (Do you know what that means ?)

No, he isn't lol He's a nutjob.


Ask Ptak yourself then and see for yourself.

De Gaulle famously said that "the graveyards are full of irreplaceable men."

Tusk has played a trick on your brain.

If somebody asked me (nobody is asking me), I would say that Sikorski would make a potentially good president, but a poor prime minister.

He's respected internationally, is experienced in foreign policy, is polished and erudite and as such creates a positive impression of Poland abroad. Good qualities for the presidency. At the same time, he's arrogant, married to an American Jew, feels more comfortable as a think tank panel member than talking to farmers... and as such probably not a "President of all Poles".

For the role of prime minister you need an able technocrat. Somebody who can navigate the Sejm and Brussels equally. Someone who can command the respect of his Council of Ministers, many of whom are large political personalities in their own right. He has to be skilled at coalition building, and capable at pushing through his policies. This is not Sikorski. Tusk certainly fills this role almost perfectly, and that's probably why you say he's indispensable. But he's a political corpse.

This is why, when choosing from the centre-left, I think the obvious choice is Trzaskowski. Yes, he lost the presidential elections twice - and as such may be fundamentally cursed... However, he's manager of the largest city in the country - showing he's able to navigate complex bureaucracies without them imploding. He may not be particularly charismatic (as evidenced by his presidential losses), but neither was Szydlo or Morawiecki.

Tusk can go behind the curtains, and parallel Kaczynski, and stop being an anchor on his party's electoral prospects.

As for the future prime minister, there is an internal poll, circulating among members as we speak, in PSL asking whether they would support a government of PiS, Konfederacja and PSL, if Kosiniak-Kamysz were to become a PM in this government. The coming weeks are going to be interesting.

Better you ask him since you own this problem, not me.
I just get tired of your Rinse & repeat meltdowns.
Almost like your whining is because you like the puppy love that you get from it.
Have you ever given thought that Ptak would make you a wonderful husband.

Sikorski is by far the best alternative to Tusk.

Kurwa mać, I don't think the current forum software can handle this much cringe, please stop or it will break the board.