Karol Nawrocki - the New President of Poland

What... lol 😂🤦


Both communist and fascist regimes were murdering their political opponents. That's exactly what you want to do. So which are you - a communist or a fascist? Judging by your views you're definitely much closer to a fascist.


Of course it isn't.


Aren't those your "values" though?:

'far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement. It is characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition"'

Yes. Your ignorance of a basic fact indicates that education has been wasted on you.
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Lol! Is that your deductive reasoning and logic applied to a case? We can see how effective it is. Let's apply your skills in a different scenario: you have hair, and I have hair, which means you are a man.

If you still don't understand what this has to do with anything, let me clarify: people have been killing their enemies since the dawn of time; it is not exclusive to any particular ideology.

Also, I never said I would kill them; I said that it is what they deserve. Any punishment less than death would still show them mercy and generosity of spirit. Improve your reading comprehension.
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Of course it is. That low-life loser is simply not capable enough to implement it. The fact that he is a failure doesn't mean his intentions are pure. Also, in personal interactions, he is a nasty, rude individual.
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I said, no. How many times do I need to say no for you to get it? Remember, I'm not a woman, and if I say no, I mean it!

You could make any statement you want. For example, that professor Dudek has the audacity to use statistics to claim that most educated people voted for Tusk. However, in Poland, a higher percentage of women hold formal higher education diplomas, even if those degrees may not hold much value. Many of these educated women, who may have studied beyond their intelligence, are so influenced by propaganda that they vote for Tusk.

Ultimately, I'm just trying to point out that if a professor can make such ridiculous claims, then Paulina also has the right to say that the PO (Civic Platform) is supported by criminals-which is a fact.

Not all PO supporters are criminals but 90% of criminals are PO supporters.

Getit?

Kindly elaborate on that then, because according to all common sense and knowledge fascism is the opposite of left-wing ideology:

"Scholars place fascism on the far right of the political spectrum.[6][5][7] Such scholarship focuses on its social conservatism and its authoritarian means of opposing egalitarianism." (Source: Wikipedia)


In the twentieth century the systemic murder of political opponents was exclusive to communist and fascist regimes.


I didn't mean that you would do it personally (although who knows), but that you would support this being done to them.

Then you're not right in the head.


Then one could say exactly the same thing about PiS and Konfederacja lol 🤦


Strange, because based on some of your comments I had an impression that you're pro-authoritarian rule. Aren't you? 🤔


LOL
What's next, are you going to "blame" the voting partterns on cities being mainly inhabited by women? :D Haha 😂🤦

*patterns


What a stupid, misogynistic, unfair comment.



Że też kobieta cię urodziła... Wstydź się.


And PiS is supported by uneducated country bumpkins, which is a fact also :D


80%. And that doesn't make KO "the party of the mafia and criminal underworld."
Get it?

No, it's not.

They are the same. Just like two black gangs in Chicago competing for the same corner...

President Karol and friends would beat them in a street fight.

He would rather avoid a fight.

Of course they aren't. The thing they have in common is producing totalitarian regimes, but they're on the opposite ends of the political spectrum.

Ever heard of the horseshoe theory? But that's not what Iron is getting at, rather that they are different branches of idologies that seek to transform the world through collectivism.

Are you familiar with socialism and communism, along with their histories? If so, let's look at Italy after World War I. There were some patriotically minded socialists who recognized the dangers of communism, viewing it as an attempt at globalization. As a solution to this, they developed fascism by adapting socialist and communist ideas from a universal perspective to a national one.

In essence, fascism can be seen as a left-wing ideology with a national focus.

Regarding Dmowski's ideas, they originated before the Italian concepts of fascism and do not share much in common. If this is difficult to grasp, perhaps the issue lies in the conceptual framework you're using.
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A few kisses from a nice-looking girl would cure me.

Well, that is democracy for you, surprised? It does not work like women's democracy, where you can always have your way - it is impossible in principle.
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The point is that whoever is voting for PiS or anyone is fine and needs to be respected. Who started that nonsense - those voters are this or that? Your lowlife leader, Ginger F.
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We have the 21st century, wake up!
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Said the psychiatrist online Paulina. Posts that are healing lol!
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I'm against that lame system of governance that is in Poland. Simple.
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My mother, if she were alive, would beat you with her slipper for your stupidity. It is not my fault that you have an emotionally weak mother and a selfish father without empathy.

We can vote men into a war

We are always right

We must be always trusted

Rape is what we decide it is

We cannot be cross-examined at rape trials

Our feelings trump all else

this is your democracy too.

In the US, at least, things got a whole less classy in the Trump/Hillary cycle.

Hillary had her famous "Basket of Deplorables" moment, which probably lost her the election:

"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. (Laughter/applause) Right? (Laughter/applause) They're racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic - you name it.

And unfortunately, there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people - now have 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric.

Now, some of those folks - they are irredeemable, but thankfully, they are not America."

I don't know what on God's green earth had compelled Hillary to say this out loud, but she was channeling what a lot of people in her party were thinking.

Previously candidates would stop short of throwing these kind of fire bombs, and still pretended at least to try to be "President of all Americans".

Trump was a good boy too, and would lead a chant of "Lock Her Up!" during many of his rallies. This was like crack cocaine to his electorate. All sorts of animal instincts were unleashed.

Contrast this to McCain's correction, when a woman at a town hall called Obama a Muslim (as if that's an indictment):

"No, ma'am. He's a decent family man, citizen, that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues, and that's what this campaign is all about".

This was highly classy, and made everyone respect John McCain much more. Maybe he would have beat Obama in the election, had he had thrown more napalm and used more corrosive speech, or didn't recruit a semi-literate retard as VP. But he didn't. He kept his good name, and didn't set American against American - even if it served his selfish interest.

Poland A and Poland B is no longer defined by west and east but by the biggest cities and everything else. It's no longer left vs right but the establishment vs the common people. The politee is hungry for kicking the table over again.

If one looks at the electoral map PO support are these small islands (where the big cities are) surrounded by the vast majority of Poland.

The programme featured Lukasz Pawlowski, president of the All-Poland Research Group, who drew attention to the new social divide in Poland - not on the left-right axis, but top-down. Pawłowski points out that a sense of inequality of opportunity between residents of large cities and smaller towns is playing an increasingly important role in electoral decisions. He notes that Rafał Trzaskowski represented the establishment, while Karol Nawrocki represented the people 'from below', who are far more numerous. The presidential election revealed a widening educational and infrastructural gap between the cities and the province. According to Pawlowski, the lack of access to equal educational, health or communication opportunities leads to political rebellion. Nawrocki - despite the controversy - won the trust of many precisely because he did not belong to the elite. As the expert adds, the current political scene is facing a radical overhaul.

This is the power of Putinism/Trumpism.

More Walęsa-ism in fact. Lech was also called a fascist, a boar, a unmannered factory worker, not fit to be president by the establishment back in the day.. Not to mention the unconscious class prejudice.

The politics of sound bites and psychological manipulation

Shows what absolute scum this PO government really is, charging polish citizens fleeing the war zone in israel and iran 500 euro to get on the plane home.
Disgraceful.

Only applies to those who went there AFTER the Foreign Ministry issued the warning not to do it.

Proper f*cking order.

The same rule should apply to retards who go hiking in the mountains in winter after several warnings against it issued by GOPR. They should pay for every second of the rescue missions.

Which was when, 10 years ago?

Also husbands and wives who were partners of polish citizens were not allowed on the plane, not sure any civilised country would do this in an evacuation flight.

Right from the beginning of the strikes...

rp.pl/polityka/art42542041-szef-msz-o-sytuacji-polakow-w-izraelu-blagamy-a-i-tak-jada

... it's as Sikorski said: "we are begging them not to go but they go anyway".


Evacuation is for Polish citizens and number of places is limited, so Poles first. Logical.

Sikorski lied, they charged everyone for the evacuees from Iran.

Oh, so you know better than the foreign minister? Interesting. Any links?

Quite.

And some countries charge a lot more for that.


£420 is a very reasonable price for short notice air travel between Iran and Poland.

@Torq
It was on polsat news wiadomosci last night your time. though i could be mistaken and could only affect people with dual iranian and polish citizenship.

Looks like it's getting complicated.

There have been allegations of electoral fraud by PiS-appointed official right from the start. There are over 1000 electoral commissions and a sample recount was held in 13. Of the 13 recounts, 10 proved that the results declared by those commissions was inaccurate.the "inaccuracy" favoured Nawrocki. This begs the question whether or not there's the same level of inaccuracy across all 1000. If there is, it's likely that Nawrocki actually lost.

PiS are hugely opposed to a full countrywide recount. They would be, since it may well lead to Nawrocki being dumped and a considerable number of misconduct in public office cases.

Here's the stats for the 13.

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