Will Poland help defend Greenland against US Imperialism

Kennedy apparently was considered a bumbler by colleagues and staffers,
but avoided the end of planet Earth with his resolution of the Cuban Missile Crisis
in addition to founding the Peace Corps.

He did escalate the Vietnam Conflict, this is true, yet surrounded himself with a
coterie of intellectuals in contrast to the future Felon-in-Chief!

Even Reagan was less out of whack than Trump, although he did ruin the New Deal
forever.

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On American expansionism.

The incoming administration seems to have a more realistic image of the state of American hegemonial decline and wants to take proactive steps to try to counteract and reverse it, breathing new life into the American Global Empire.

In this context, it makes perfect sense for the US to increase pressure on its vassals. I am not using the term in a pejorative sense. The US does not have "allies" in the traditional meaning of the word. It has vassals with different levels of feudal obligations and elite integration, and different tasks. Extracting more value from vassals -- whether through tariffs, increased NATO budgets, meddling in local politics or potential territorial concessions -- is an absolutely logical step in cementing and renewing America's position as overlord of its sphere.

There are three ways America's European vassals can react to this: look for protection outside of the sphere, try to make themselves more useful/necessary & advance integration, or take it on the face. Were we in, I don't know, the 19th century, Denmark would just ask Russia for military support in Greenland in exchange for mild economic concessions and never worry again. As it is, the Royal Danish Army does not have any artillery anymore because they gave it all away for the purpose of firing cluster ammunition at Russian children in Donetsk. They did not receive anything in return for that and it did not help any Danish purpose. They cannot defend themselves if push comes to shove and they can't ask anybody to help because most of their fellow vassals have done the same. The most likely option is that they'll just take it on the face. Not just for pragmatic reasons, but also because they genuinely enjoy being dommed geopolitically.

America has no obligation to treat its vassals better. I've seen Danish people complain on here about supporting the US after 9/11, participating in the American wars in the Middle East, etc. That's ridiculous. You know how a colony is rewarded for sending troops to its overlord's wars? It doesn't get beaten. That's the reward for a lackey. Any person who takes any of the NATO democracy liberalism pilpul seriously is just not a serious person, it was never real, it was always just voluntary submission to be absolved from existing in History.

The world that existed in 1991-2022 does not exist anymore. It's not coming back. You can just invade your neighbor. You can just fire missiles at international shipping lanes. You can just threaten to annex members of your military alliance. "You can just do things", as the techbros like to say. The mirage of a post-historical order that only has to be policed from time to time but is never seriously challenged has disappeared. What did you think canceling the End of History meant? Vibes? Papers? Essays?

It's not pleasant to be suddenly confronted with all of the above. It's not pleasant to have to admit to yourself that your existence was a coddled theme park that is existentially dependent on the relative position of someone else and how he feels about that relative position. America's vassals WILL have to confront this state of things and make hard decisions about their future. This means reckoning with their geopolitical impotence and either embracing dependency with open eyes or seeking pathways to autonomy that will inevitably involve risk, sacrifice, and a recalibration of their national priorities.

The era of coasting on borrowed security and ideological rhetoric is over. What lies ahead is a world where historical agency must be reclaimed or forever relinquished, and for many, the question may not be whether they are ready to make that leap, but whether they even remember how. America has now understood this -- and is mentally preparing to switch back to the cold logic that comes with actual History. The times, they are a-changin'.

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I read your post in its entirety. My only problem is with America being presented as some greedy blood-sucking monstrosity.

If the US was all that, we would be sitting on a pile of money taller than Mount Everest.

Instead, we are flat broke and have to print to eat. The first time in history, a superpower is super stupid playing world's supercop for free.

So if you want to just invade your neighbor, better make sure you win

Last time America invaded someone it didn't end well, same as North Nigeria invading peaceful Ukraine

It was fighting a third world country.

It had a huge coalition supporting it.

It was not sanctioned.

It still lost.

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Russia is fighting one of the largest countries in Europe, with a massive industrial base.

No country other than NK has provided us overt assistance.

We're sanctioned more than any country in history.

We're still gonna win.

@cms neuf
And if the US invaded either Canada or Mexico, it would be over in short order. Invading a country on the other side of the globe is a different matter all together.

Right - piece of cake to invade and control a massive frozen tundra full of forests and rivers

Also a simple task to control 120 million people in dense urban areas, jungles and deserts who all hate your presence

Tundra means treeless...

Pointless arguing over how easy it would be, or otherwise, for the US empire to occupy other countries.

The real question is who benefits...clue it wont be the people of Greenland or the average burger munching joe in the US and A.

The US will expand its empire when it wants, screwing over non billionaires which is most people.

@cms neuf
US has ten times the population of Canada and neerly ten times the military. globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.php?form=form&country1=united-states-of-america&country2=canada&Submit=COMPARE Couple that with a large number of Canadians being completely ok with joining the US and thats a cake walk.

globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.php?country1=united-states-of-america&country2=mexico Mexicans would line up to be a part of the US.

You have a very unrealistic view of the world, and specifically world military units. If the US committed to a full scale invasion to take over a country who is going to stop them? Serious question. All the little wars since WW2 were not wholesale moves to take over a country, take its resources and expand the nation.

You have a population 30x as big as Iraq and look how that turned out, same as Vietnam and Afghanistan

I don't understand much about the worlds armies, but I was right that the north Nigerians would still be stuck 6 km outside Pokrovsk at Christmas

Given how much you moan about your taxes being spent on a bit of help to Ukraine, do you think that invading Panama or Greenland would be cost free ?

@cms neuf
I think taking back the Panama canal is worth every penny. Greenland would not be an invasion, it would be a purchase. Iraq or any other war was not a full scale war. A full scale war, deveoting all of the US military, like was done in WW2, would over run countries. The difference in these little wars is that the US never went all in on any of them and they should have absolutely flattened Afghanistan and Iraq. If you dont kill every terrorist then you will only have more being born into terrorism. The Gulf War in Kuwait was pretty successful, but most dont want to remember that.

@PolAmKrakow
You are seriously deluded if you think repeating the same mantra US imperialists repeat after every defeat is a good argument.

Panama was created by the US in order to steal the land used to build the canal its a textbook example of imperialism. The problem is that your argument (genocide and all) justifies some planes hitting buildings ie might is right and all the whinging US people do wont change that.

Please...


Again, Kuwait should pay us for the next 100 years with 50% of its oil production, delivered to Louisiana for free.

Our ultimatum to Panama should be like this:

We keep 50% of all fees.
Our ships go through free.
Or we take it back.

Respond in 72 hours.

Let's finally be those "ugly Americans".


So is the EU. Brussels rules just as Moscow used to.

I like American imperialism - for profit, not as world's stupidest pro bono cop we are now...

Nobody has mentioned the growing influence China has over Panama since the give back in 1999.
Start paying attention to the big picture of why Trump is going to take it back.

That's why we should never make another peanut farmer whose dream was to teach Sunday school to be a US president.

We need the meanest, most cynical, hateful, distrustful, and the most suspicious SOB for that job. Unfortunately, I don't meet the place of birth spec.

I should have said, "Nobody has mentioned the growing influence China has over and in Panama since the give back in 1999."
Both politically and economically to the point of becoming a military threat to the U.S.A. in our investment in that part of the world.
The Eurps haven't been tuned into that part of it yet.
The U.S. built that canal for our military purposes and now China wants control of it.
Trump is saying that it was turned over with good intentions but you Panama have not shown good intentions and quite the opposite not only catering to one of America's enemies but by also charging the U.S. absorbent tariffs to use it.
So therefore since you abused the treaty we will just nullify it and take the canal back in the United States best interest.

On the bright side Duda does not play piano with the di*k.

Tusk neither.

He generally squeaks in a low voice....and does whatever his wife tells him to do.

Because Carter was as lousy negotiator regarding the canal as the Soviets were in 1990 regarding NATO.

Trust does not belong anywhere when something this critical is on the table.

So, our precious little Nazi, are you saying that you'd like the US to invade Panama?


Well, hello Nazi psycho.


So now you're saying that Trump was serious and is going to invade Panama after all?

So, our precious little leftie does not know the history of the Panama canal?
The Panama canal was started by the French.But completed, at great expense, by Americans.
It was American territory till 2010 when the idiot Jimmy Carter ceded it to Panama.
The Americans built it, now that the Chinese are taking control of it, they have every right to take it back!

I have a serious question too:

Have you all suddenly lost your freaking minds???

As for "very unrealistic view of the world" - Canada is a US ally and a founding member of NATO. If the US attacked Canada it would mean that the US turned completely psychotic (think Nazi Germany level psychotic) and thus the possibility of the whole f*cking world ganging up against the US would be very, very high.


I'm a centrist, Milo. Calm down. Is PolAm your buddy or something? 🤨


Really? So according to your "logic" RuSSia has "every right" to take back Ukraine, "genius"! 🤦

And how are the Chinese "taking control" of the Panama Canal exactly?

No need to attack Canada. We can stop all trade with Canada, order all US companies to leave Canada, end NORAD, and organize a self-determination referendum in BC just as we organized the 2014 "revolution" in Ukraine.


We don't need "rights". Only Paulina needs rights. We have a big fist - both economic and military - and a president-elect who is willing to use it.

We didn't have any right to invade Iraq. You do know what happened to Iraq, Saddam, and his sons, right?

No problem, the European Union would fill this gap right away. Made in Europe is still attractive.

@Paulina
Go fvck yourself princess. Calling people nazi is a sign of a lack of intelligence. You view on Canada is hilarious. The US wouldnt have to invade Canada. You clearly do not understand the US/Canada relationship.

@Barney
You cant even be taken seriously.

Al we can add Canada to the list of things that only you understand ? Like Ukraine and Bitcoin ?

Why did the topic of Greenland turn into a Panama issue?
The US should take over the Panama Canal. It is in their interest, and not doing that would indicate weakness as a world power.

You are right Iron - these threads are dumb and have nothing to do with Poland.

Panama granted a concession to operate the ports on both ends of the canal to a Hong Kong company back in 1996.
The United States spends billions in repairs on the canal while China is the second biggest user of it.
Panama's population has grown to 5% Chinese which is remarkable for that part of the world.
China's strategic positioning by continuing to expand its presence around the canal is a threat to the United States.
The U.S. can not afford to overlook China's growing influence in Panama.
Teflon Trump just needs to learn how diplomacy works is all.
Jimmy Carter made a huge mistake and it is going to take some keen diplomacy to fix it.

You are right, I don't think the Chinese like pierogi.