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Germany eyes Poland's economic miracle


GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
24 Feb 2021   #1
Since the Law and Justice Party (PiS) came to power in 2015, the EU's sixth-largest economy has drawn attention primarily over its alleged democratic backsliding. At the same time, however, the resilience of the Polish economy has been astonishing.

dw.com/en/germany-eyes-polands-economic-miracle-for-post-covid-growth/a-56659483

I told you - ordoliberalism: we copied it from the Germans and it works! :)
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11847
24 Feb 2021   #2
A nice and interesting read! :)

...Germany and Poland, Wasinski believes are becoming the industrial center of Eastern Europe, capable of developing value chains that are "beneficial for both partners."

I really hope that includes East Germany!

*fist bump* :)
amiga500  5 | 1517
24 Feb 2021   #3
I thought the PiS hater losers on this forum were saying for years that the government was wrecking the budget with 500+ and because of Polonising banks and media , as well as legal changes and their anti lgbt policies would poison the economic climate and stop investment?! haha its like whatever they post here you know the opposite will happen. Keep losing, Poland is better off with you as losers! hahaha
Ironside  50 | 12397
24 Feb 2021   #4
I told you

What? That is BS. Resilient yes but it is not the same as successful and promising.

the PiS hater

I'm not the PiS hater and never was. There is not economic success. They sign all significant agreements with the EU that sells out Poland's independence.

They are all talk and no action.
pawian  221 | 25486
5 Apr 2021   #5
They are all talk and no action.

You mean they only pretend to be against the EU but in reality they conform on all fronts?
Miloslaw  21 | 5068
5 Apr 2021   #6
No, they don't.
For all their faults they do see both the advantages and disadvantages of Poland's membership of The EU.
In the short term, Poland should suck the EU dry.
In the long term they should be as brave as the UK and leave.
Ironside  50 | 12397
5 Apr 2021   #7
You mean they only pretend to be against the EU but in reality they conform on all fronts?

Maybe not all, I'm not investigating all of it in a detail but those that are significant one they do without bating an eye.

should be as brave as the UK and leave

Well Scandinavian countries (some think thanks in those countries) believe now is the golden opportunity for those countries to leave EU due to the crazy Brussels policy that is trying to build a centralized European state.
pawian  221 | 25486
5 Apr 2021   #8
In the short term, Poland should suck the EU dry.

Yes. let them pay for everything they wronged Poland with.

In the long term they should be as brave as the UK and leave.

No, of course not, that would be utter stupidity.
Miloslaw  21 | 5068
5 Apr 2021   #9
for those countries to leave EU due to the crazy Brussels policy that is trying to build a centralized European state

This is why most states should be thinking of leaving the EU now, before it is too late.
pawian  221 | 25486
5 Apr 2021   #10
Your country has already left. Leave others alone. It is none of your business anymore.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11847
6 Apr 2021   #11
....a federation would be so much better anyhow!

Who wants the EU to become a centralized state?
Crow  154 | 9398
6 Apr 2021   #12
People you heard German Gerhard Schröder - ``Borders of EU are borders of Austro Hungaria. Plus, front to Russia.``

Forget EU and run from it as from leprosy dog. All what have purpose to destruct, dominate and assimilate Slavs would perish.

I really hope that includes East Germany!

Blessings on your hope.
pawian  221 | 25486
23 Nov 2024   #13
we copied it from the Germans and it works! :)

Better not.
An intriguing article about German economy which has been collapsing for some time and the prospects for revival are dim.
newsweek.pl/swiat/niemiecki-model-upada-kryzys-bedzie-gleboki-zaboli-cala-europe/485tnj7

The German aversion to new technology is well-known. Germany now has one of the worst mobile networks in Europe. The Internet is incredibly slow. And fax is still king. More than 80 percent of German companies use it. When a parliamentary committee recently decided that the Bundestag would no longer use fax machines, the motion had to be submitted... by fax.

I can read more and more articles in Polish media how Germans lost their traditional Ordnung muss sein in many aspects of economy and life as well.
pawian  221 | 25486
23 Nov 2024   #14
It seems Germans were very short sighted when they happily traded with China.

Germany played a major supplier role in China's industrial revolution, supplying industrial machine tools of all types for factories, electronics, and cars, trucks, and trains for the transportation network.

Now the situation has reversed. The Chinese are pushing the Germans out of the market. Chinese electric cars are starting to flood Europe. They are cheaper and more technically advanced. The German car industry cannot compete with them.

Alien  24 | 5818
23 Nov 2024   #15
The German car industry cannot compete with them.

If anyone can compete with China in the automotive industry, it is only Germany. The Chinese eat Americans, French and Italians for breakfast.
pawian  221 | 25486
23 Nov 2024   #16
it is only Germany.

And the Chinese no longer have to buy anything from the Germans. And - what's worse - they will soon start to overtake them in other industries, such as the production of high-end energy or medical equipment. Germany saw China as its great opportunity. Today, China is its deadly rival.
Marrakesh
23 Nov 2024   #17
You better hope that the German economy recovers quickly. Poland pays its military and fuels its economic development mostly with cash with/ from EU funds.
Alien  24 | 5818
23 Nov 2024   #18
China is its deadly rival

Yes, no one ever appreciated them and that was a mistake.
pawian  221 | 25486
23 Nov 2024   #19
with cash with/ from EU funds.

Hmmmmmm............. Polish export per capita is higher than France`s, Spain`s or Italy`s.


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Lyzko  41 | 9634
23 Nov 2024   #20
Apparently, Germany's economy is once again, on the rocks
and, even if for other reasons, voters want to replace Scholz
as quickly as possible.
Marrakesh
23 Nov 2024   #21
@pawian
Poland accounts for 4.4% of the EU's total GDP, so not really an economic giant. Between 2004 and 2023, the country has received 246 billion Euros from the European Union budget. During this period, membership payments to the EU budget amounted to over 83.8 billion euros. So what did Poland do with the difference?
Lyzko  41 | 9634
23 Nov 2024   #22
Just like the tortoise and the hare. Slow but steady wins the race.
David vs. Goliath, Poland vs. Germany.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11847
24 Nov 2024   #23
.....it's time for Poland to support Germany and pay us some EU-funds!

:)
Novichok  5 | 8099
24 Nov 2024   #24
.....it's time for Poland to support Germany

No.

It's time for Germany to give Poland the right middle finger. Enough.

The US and the sanctions should get the left one.

Germany for Germans and everybody GFY.
Novichok  5 | 8099
24 Nov 2024   #26
Are you going to support my petition for Honorary Citizen of Germany?

No, I am not talking about the Citizen of the Year.
Alien  24 | 5818
24 Nov 2024   #28
Of course

Of course not.


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