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OP Novichok 4 | 8,287
10 Jul 2023 #331
Poland will become a reality sooner than you think.

You mean without Polish citizens' consent??? I thought Poland is a democracy...If the government can impose its will without the consent of the governed, Poland today is not that much different from the one I left in 1966. I didn't know that things are almost the same...We decide. You obey and shut up...I am shocked.
johnny reb 49 | 7,224
11 Jul 2023 #332
What Europeans project people look like in each U.S. State
Some are just mean.

yahoo.com/lifestyle/asked-ai-europeans-think-americans-201700212.html
OP Novichok 4 | 8,287
12 Jul 2023 #333
Hey, Muslim-immigrant-loving Euro-holes, be afraid...very afraid...

youtu.be/y2XbJ4uk3Dc

BTW, I don't recall when you decided that it would be a good idea to bring in millions of unassimilating Muslims into your white, non-Muslim countries...

Do you recall when your democratic governments asked you? You see, a-holes, I don't recall my "communist" Polish government asking me about anything, either. They just did whatever they wanted...Looks similar, doesn't it, stupid bootlickers...
Luke1410 - | 167
12 Jul 2023 #334
Rebel news... inciting Islamophobia is their business model, turn off YT mate!
OP Novichok 4 | 8,287
12 Jul 2023 #335
That's not what adults do.
Since you are not a child, what did this Muslim guy say that is not true or is a baseless exaggeration? Name three things.
Luke1410 - | 167
13 Jul 2023 #336
Adults focus on facing up to day to day personal responsibilities that are within their control, they do not watch fear p*rn on YT about things they cannot control and then complain about it on social media.

I'm sure everything he said has some basis in reality and therefore is not baseless but I've suffered enough from Islamophobia to know that it's a poison that won't benefit me in any way. Leave the Islamophobia to DT mate and turn off YT.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,287
13 Jul 2023 #337
I'm sure everything he said has some basis in reality

What did he say that has some basis in reality in your opinion?
mafketis 37 | 10,973
13 Jul 2023 #338
decided that it would be a good idea to bring in millions of unassimilating Muslims into your white, non-Muslim countries..

Good thing that putain held a referendum about letting muslims into Moscow (currently about a million of them) and the russian voters said DA!

themoscowtimes.com/2022/05/03/moscows-muslims-mark-eid-al-fitr-a77560
OP Novichok 4 | 8,287
13 Jul 2023 #339
So now Russia is a point of reference for Western "democracies"? The stupidest way to lose an argument. What's next? Stalin and the USSR? What s dumb ass...

The difference between Russia and Western morons is that Russia's Muslims were always there as part of the USSR. At the same time, Western Europe was white and Muslim-free.

So when did Western sheep vote to bring millions of them to make Europe less white and more "diverse"? Especially Sweden...the dumbest country on earth...

If you don't know how cancer looks and feels, go to Paris. When you are done there, visit 2000 mosques in the UK.
mafketis 37 | 10,973
13 Jul 2023 #340
ussia's Muslims were always there as part of the USSR.

not since 1991.... putain opened the borders with central asia (now separate countries) and the results are.... a whole bunch of muslims in moscow and russian nationalists who didn't like that?

well.... they didn't flourish.....

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10348293/Founder-Russian-nationalist-blog-falls-death-Moscow-window.html
OP Novichok 4 | 8,287
13 Jul 2023 #341
putain opened the borders with central asia

And that justifies the stupidity of Western "democracies"? Is this your point?
mafketis 37 | 10,973
13 Jul 2023 #342
Is this your point?

My point is that west-hating westerners who weirdly idolize putain have no idea what he's really about. Instead they naively believe carefully curated russian sources who tell them what they want to hear and then they project all kinds of weird things onto him that are not true.....

He's as much an open borders globalist as Biden or Clinton... just with a different emphasis... what do you think he means when he says russia's borders do not end?
OP Novichok 4 | 8,287
13 Jul 2023 #343
My point is that west-hating westerners who weirdly idolize putain have no idea what he's really about.

Because this is not what I am discussing.

Just because there is a guy somewhere who does bad things to his people, does not justify me doing the same thing to mine.

Western Europe had no good reason to admit the hordes of incompatible and hostile scum. At least the US is committing suicide for cheap labor and votes. Criminally stupid but with a practical basis. Euros are just guilt-driven, idealistic idiots. Period.
mafketis 37 | 10,973
13 Jul 2023 #344
Just because there is a guy somewhere who does bad things to his people, does not justify me doing the same thing to mine.

What about whataboutism?

putain had no objective reason to admit the hordes of incompatible and hostile central europeans and Caucasions..... why would he do that? Why would any westerner who dislikes muslim immigration look up to him?
Luke1410 - | 167
14 Jul 2023 #345
Western Europe had no good reason to admit

Western states started printing money in 2008 and are weak and powerless as a result of this and are beholden to private business who are financed by rich (non-money printing) states in the Middle East. The West needed Russia's support, instead your hero Putin smelt blood and went for the jugular.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,287
14 Jul 2023 #346
putain had no objective reason to admit the hordes of incompatible

I don't care what Putin does. I care what my "democratic" government does to me without ever asking if we like the idea of adding 30,000,000 illegals.

Still waiting for the results of the referendum in the UK and Sweden where their citizens agreed to admit the hordes...
OP Novichok 4 | 8,287
14 Jul 2023 #347
I apologize for not including France and Germany in the second sentence of the above post.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,910
14 Jul 2023 #348
We have general elections in two years...I could imagine that the ever worsening situation with illegals will play a bigger role then...a kind of a referendum!
OP Novichok 4 | 8,287
14 Jul 2023 #349
a kind of a referendum!

No, it's not a referendum because it will not be legally binding. It's "tell me how you feel" chick talk.
They will lie to you and will do what the top 0.01% will tell them. Not a bit different from "communist" Poland. We had elections, too. By the clock...every four years...
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,910
14 Jul 2023 #350
I'm not sure how well you follow european matters but the whole migrant question is actually changing the political landscape here enormously already....

Europe swings right - and reshapes the EU

politico.eu/article/far-right-giorgia-meloni-europe-swings-right-and-reshapes-the-eu/

Italy, Finland, Greece have recently moved. Spain could be next. The shift will affect everything from climate policy to migration....

Not to forget Sweden....LePen in France maybe next...Austria....the AfD in Germany grows stronger......a walled in Europe is in the making.....open borders - pro immigration govs like Germany's can't hold out isolated endlessly when even the EU is changing and deciding against.

That's the difference to our commie past....democracies move slowly, sometimes very slowly, but they move, the people's will forces them to move!

...And in Parliament

The rightward drift could soon jump to the European Parliament, with ramifications for how Brussels is run.

In less than a year, voters will go to the polls to elect a new Parliament, and conservatives are predicting robust gains.

OP Novichok 4 | 8,287
14 Jul 2023 #351
democracies move slowly, sometimes very slowly,

So does some cancer.

Which part of your foreign flood was not predictable? They can predict global warming effects in 100 years but can't predict what the flood of foreign scum will do to the natives?

And just like with cancer, you will never get rid of the scum you have because Western white men have no balls to deport - even criminals.

And then you have the second-gen scum - lost, frustrated, and lashing out like kids with weak parents, trying to see if there are any adults in the house. And they are not deportable...ever... but will out multiply you.

BTW, you have to admit that it was really stupid to let women migrants in, wasn't it?
You see...maybe I am different but when I need something fixed, I don't let the repairman move in with me - wife, kids, and the goat. Fix this, get paid, and GTFO.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,910
14 Jul 2023 #352
...I am alot more optimistic, but let's see! Now it would be all speculations....
OP Novichok 4 | 8,287
14 Jul 2023 #353
...I am alot more optimistic,

About what, specifically?

Now it would be all speculations....

I don't need to speculate. Unless Europe gets another Hitler, Europe is doomed and dead from a self-inflicted headshot. It will take a while but you are deadman walking.

Those sanctions against Russia were really stupid, btw...
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,910
14 Jul 2023 #354
About what, specifically?

That the situation stays as bad as it is....

You know, we in Germany are a federation like the US.....we have 16 Bundesländer....some very leftist like Berlin....and some alot more conservative, like Bavaria.

And you can compare....and yes, a more conservative gov, even only in one Bundesland, makes a huge difference and alot less problems and it doesn't need another Hitler for that!

So yes, I think a more conservative EU, a more strict immigration, and firmer handling of misbehaving guests will make a better Europe! Only till now the political will wasn't as strong, was more like Berlin and less like Bavaria generally, but the tides are turning in Europe as we speak.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,287
14 Jul 2023 #355
a more strict immigration,

A more strict immigration? How about none?
And how does "strict immigration" remove the cancer you already have and spreads?
Did any of your politicians name the limit on how many immigrants Germany will tolerate? Like passengers on a bus. Without hard numbers, it's all chick talk and promises. You know...economy...global warming...crime...all needing "our support and compassion". You are compassionate, right?

They will find a reason to continue with the flood. Trust me.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,910
14 Jul 2023 #356
Did any of your politicians name the limit on how many immigrants Germany will tolerate?

Thing is we already have a strict asylum law in place. Under that only a few percent of immigrants deserve a place in Germany. All the rest are illegals! Illegals who are supported in many ways and allowed to stay endlessly by a quite leftist government, often against our official laws as in "Nobody is illegal!".....sounds crazy? Well, it is!

But this is going to end...that great, long lasting generosity is done...it's only a matter of time now! We don't even have to change laws or invent new ones....only to execute the already existing laws with the political will to follow its letters.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,287
14 Jul 2023 #357
Thing is we already have a strict asylum law in place.

What happens to those who are rejected?
There are 8 billion people out there. How many is Germany willing to take? Did anybody in your fed gov talk numbers?
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,910
14 Jul 2023 #358
What happens to those who are rejected?

More often than not they are allowed to stay....they are being fed, housed, financed....if they so wish even educated, trained on the publics dime....its the land of milk and honey for them!

Remember 2015? Merkels decision to open the flood gates? Half of those back then still live off the german state, after so many years....and why should they change? They did everything right after all....it's the german state which is taken for a fool here!

But again, even if the german gov keeps being slow in reacting, the rest of Europe changes more quickly....if they close the borders, they are closed for Germany too, as we are smack in the center and every illegal needs to cross alot countries before!
mafketis 37 | 10,973
14 Jul 2023 #359
only a few percent of immigrants deserve a place in Germany. All the rest are illegals!

That Germany is completely incapable of getting rid of.... in practical terms, once you set foot in Germany you'll never have to leave.... and German politicians (extremely short-sighted and feckless) keep trying to ignore the problem to the gains of AdF....
Alien 21 | 5,154
14 Jul 2023 #360
in practical terms, once you set foot in Germany you'll never have to leave.

This is not true, more and more emigrants are being sent back to the countries through which they came to Germany. For example, to Poland and in the meantime there are thousands of people.


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