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Alien 21 | 5,154
2 Jul 2023 #271
@Ironside
Nice song, too bad I don't know French but I guess it's about the sea.
Ironside 53 | 12,480
2 Jul 2023 #272
Told you mine argument is deeper :)
Atch 22 | 4,153
2 Jul 2023 #273
Nice song,

It was a huge international hit back in the day. Charles Trenet was gay though, I don't know if Ironsides realizes that :) He's not a great fan of the old homosexuals. I prefer Serge Gainsbourg myself.

I don't know French but I guess it's about the sea.

It is indeed. The title means 'the sea'. Just use our old friend Google Translate if you want to understand it.
amiga500 4 | 1,546
2 Jul 2023 #274
The title means 'the sea'.

Very apt. In 20 years time the native french population will be driven into the sea by the new arrivals and the belligerent ideology they brought with them.
Luke1410 - | 167
2 Jul 2023 #275
The riots spread to Brussels, the capital of the EU. Just out of interest are TVN covering this at all? I imagine TVP will be all over it.
Atch 22 | 4,153
2 Jul 2023 #276
the capital of the EU

There is no capital of the EU. The EU is not a country.

are TVN covering this at all?

Of course they are.
Crnogorac3 4 | 888
2 Jul 2023 #277
Otherwise, these protests in France are not for everyone.

You can rape, kill, dismember a 12-year-old girl and carry her around Paris in a suitcase without protest.

t.me/ultrasnotreds2/1690

If she's French. 🤔
Ironside 53 | 12,480
2 Jul 2023 #278
@Atch
Totalitarian ways of reasoning, no wonder you have "issues ",
OP Novichok 4 | 8,269
2 Jul 2023 #279
Of course it makes a difference.

Of course, it does. Poland and the rest are one country without borders - inside or out. How nice...
Serve you right, a-holes...
The irony of modern slavery... It's the white idiots that are the slaves who must toil every day to support black African scum that came to dinner uninvited.

Oops...I was wrong with that "uninvited"...They were invited and helped to land safely - followed by dry blankets and warm coffee.
That's how stupid whites are...
OP Novichok 4 | 8,269
2 Jul 2023 #280
t.me/ultrasnotreds2/1690

Quoting from the above...

We remind you when your seeing the scenes in France now, less then a year ago, 12 year old Lola Daviet was sexually assaulted, killed, stuffed into a suitcase and left in a carpet in a Paris building by an Algerian immigrant, there was no riots for her, no mass protests in the cities and no outrage by politicians

Hey, Lyzko, aren't migrants fun?
Alien 21 | 5,154
2 Jul 2023 #281
there was no riots for her, no mass protests

There was no need, the perpetrator was caught. He's probably in prison and his fellow inmates make his life more pleasant every day. Would you like to be in his place.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,269
2 Jul 2023 #282
There was no need,

There was a need.
This girl is dead now because the French weasel "authorities" didn't know how to deport a foreign scumbag. I guess putting her on a plane out to Africa was too cruel. Instead, the scum was told to leave in 30 days on her own. That was on August 21, 2022.

The Algerian pos didn't like the idea and stayed. Two months later, she tortured and murdered a 12-year-old girl because the pos "had a dispute with the victim's mother".

Would you like to be in his place.

No. That's why I don't kill people.

Who do you think can "teach her a lesson"? Other Algerian criminals?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Lola_Daviet
Alien 21 | 5,154
2 Jul 2023 #283
@Novichok
I didn't know the perpetrator was a woman. Such a murder could not have been prevented anyway. There is no prevention here because young women are not a risk group. I don't know if she is repressed in prison. However, it is very likely.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,269
2 Jul 2023 #285
Such a murder could not have been prevented anyway.

It could have been prevented twice. 1. By not letting her in. 2. By actually deporting her instead of making it do-it-yourself deportation.
A country is free to discriminate against foreign visa applicants all it wants - just as I am free to discriminate when inviting people for dinner.

And then there is the question of benefits. It's beneficial to let American tourists in. It's stupid to let migrants in. Or "students". 9/11 was done by "students".

@Crnogorac3
I would change it to: Then you are welcome!
Ironside 53 | 12,480
9 Jul 2023 #286
There is no capital of the EU. The EU is not a country.

Seems to me that in the USA people assume that the EU is a country, or something like that. As much as Germans and some other lefties want it to be, the EU still is not a country. If it were it right now they would be ruled by German - French and could as well side with China or Russia rather then USA.

USA are terrible at reading a room.
NEWS FROM POLAND;
On Friday about 200 crminals tried to cross over Polish - Belarusan border.
Amongs them citizens of Marocco, India, Ethiopia, Gwinea, Kamerun, Iran, Afganistan, Syria.
Shouldn't their countries pay costs of their citizens crime? In dollars.

Ah, and there were two people smugglers - both Ukrainians. Rather then fight Russians they sabotage Poland. I hope they are deported to Ukraine and send to the front.They can use them as mines detectors. Scum.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,904
9 Jul 2023 #287
If it were it right now they would be ruled by German

I very much doubt that!

Germany isn't fit to keep order with it's own borders....our woke gov is also quite isolated in a Europe moving to the right.....you still have the old Germany in your mind Iron, a powerful, respected, influential Germany....a Germany whose Fußballmannschaft was Weltmeister....but nowadays even more and more Germans don't respect our gov. This Germany won't rule Europe any time soon!

Still...the idea of a common defense should be thought about...the project Sky Shield (with those israeli Iron Dome) could be our way out of the danger zone! Austria and Swiss just joined that project, why doesn't Poland?

euractiv.com/section/defence-and-security/news/neutral-austria-switzerland-join-european-sky-shield/
Tacitus 2 | 1,410
9 Jul 2023 #288
.the project Sky Shield (with those israeli Iron Dome) could be our way out of the danger zone!

Indeed. Especially since anti-air defence systems are incredibly expensive. Perhaps more expensive than any other modern weaponry sans aircraft carriers. If Poland joins we could cover almost all of Eastern and Central Europe.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,904
9 Jul 2023 #289
*nods*

Definitely! I wonder how much of that is to blame on the anti-german polish gov....
Ironside 53 | 12,480
9 Jul 2023 #290
This Germany won't rule Europe any time soon!

Sure, but that is the reason German establishment support EU and is kin to build a state ruled from Brussles. To rule from behind the screen as European this or that but in fact it would be Germans calling the shots that is the idea. Leftover are not good enough for Poland.

the idea of a common defense

Look, what common defence? Poland has better army that Germany by ten, (not to say we have some great force) but still. Defence wise we would have to defend you because French do not have land army too.

You have ageing population, people spoiled by welfare and only neo-nazis are willing to serve in your military. What common defence? What about NATO?
Also even if you start buliding something up - the project Sky Shield - for example. It will take years, decades to develop. It is not as if you have all ready, just a year or two from complition.

If we have decades we can sent it up by ourselves or with those countries we see eye to eye on Russia.
German proposition has:
1. keep control over nearby military (I suppose those who will give more money will be in charge).
2. being a part of it Germany can always stole or sabotage such a project from whithin.
3. keep an close eye on Poland buffing up its military.

Why not Poland? There is no incentive for Poland in that.

If Poland joins we could cover almost all of Eastern and Central Europe.

I'm sure in time you could .BUT the switch would be in Berlin, you could turn in on and off at will. upps ...
and Poland doesn't have sky shield only Russian planes roaming free.
Germans oh - we are so sloppy sorry!
the other scenario - Poland want to liberate BElarus - no you don't, say German we have a switch and ichy fingers. ...got it?
Ironside 53 | 12,480
9 Jul 2023 #291
2026 we should be ready!

I don;t buy it? BB that political bragging, don't listen to them, they lie. I very much doubt it would take only a year or two to make it work.

That iron dome destroys any kind of missiles

80% depends on what, how, when, how many.
The best way is to have our own nukes.

Seriously?

well, I made it sound funny but the idea is valid, we would depend on Berlin good will.
[Bratwurst Boy]How?]
I wrote IF, but since you ask - we would ask Russians and Lukashenka nicely to move over one seat to t he east.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,904
9 Jul 2023 #292
I very much doubt it would take only a year or two to make it work.

Na ja...it is already operational, in Israel! We would just copy the works here....I so hope it wouldn't take DECADES!

The best way is to have our own nukes.

Well....that can take decades too....you don't buy them on the market....there are treaties and stuff.....

we would depend on Berlin good will.

Frankly I don't know enough about that to say if it would work like that....*goes searching for more background infos*
amiga500 4 | 1,546
9 Jul 2023 #293
Na ja...it is already operational, in Israel!

yeah in israel, you really think the jews will sell you their latest tech, whilst germany is in conflict with russia? lolzo, yep operational in the 2030s
Tacitus 2 | 1,410
9 Jul 2023 #294
Poland want to liberate BElarus

Let us be real here. If Warsaw was ever to contemplate such a foolosh and dangerous move, the reliability of a shared anti-air system would likely be one of the less pressing concerns.

In any case I'd argue that getting the best affordable protection for its' citizen should be a higher priority than plans for invading a neighbouring country.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,269
9 Jul 2023 #295
How about my version of your very sensible post:

Hey, Polish morons, try to liberate Belarus and drag Europe into WW3. A-holes...
Alien 21 | 5,154
9 Jul 2023 #296
try to liberate Belarus

I haven't heard a dumber idea in a long time, at least in today's situation.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,269
9 Jul 2023 #297
That aside...How did you like my version?
Alien 21 | 5,154
9 Jul 2023 #298
.How did you like my versio

I don't like the version where Poland starts World War 3. It's enough to start World War 2. 😀There was a Polish feature film "How I caused World War II". But it was a comedy.
OP Novichok 4 | 8,269
9 Jul 2023 #299
I meant how short and elegant it was...
Miloslaw 19 | 5,081
9 Jul 2023 #300
Further to my earlier posts about Poland's massive increase in build up of it's military,here is a superb article by Andrew Neil,who is probably the UK's most knowledgeable political and economic journalist.He is well known for being a superb researcher and many people have been terrified of being interviewed by him on TV.

This is his take on Poland.....Forget Berlin,Brussels or Paris.....the new capital of Europe is Warsaw.....

dailymail.co.uk/news/prince_charles/article-12276633/ANDREW-NEIL-Poles-rearming-breathtaking-rate-Europes-rising-power.html


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