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Duda invited to march in Poland's Independence Day parade


Grzegorz_  51 | 6138
11 Nov 2015   #61
All in all, this was probably the most peaceful march in years.

Apparently there are just no problems without ABW/Police provocations.
Ironside  50 | 12350
11 Nov 2015   #62
The number of today's marchers has ranged from 15,000 to 100,000 but who can know for sure, especially at night.

About 70 000.
WielkiPolak  54 | 988
13 Nov 2015   #63
Interestingly there was no police and no trouble at the march either. Coincidence or perhaps proof that when there is no provocation, it's totally safe?
Polsyr  6 | 758
13 Nov 2015   #64
no trouble

Almost no trouble. 1 person was arrested for insulting the police. Minor property damage in comparison to 2014.

no police

That is not correct. We counted more than 100 police vans driving north on Puławska on Wednesday morning in preparation for the march. There was heavy Police presence throughout but they kept to the background as much as possible.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823
13 Nov 2015   #65
Interestingly there was no police and no trouble at the march either. Coincidence or perhaps proof that when there is no provocation, it's totally safe?

Or more accurately, read what they actually had to say. It was a very clear warning to PiS that right now, they're tolerating them, but they also know that it's a party of Israel and Washington and that they won't stand for it.
WielkiPolak  54 | 988
13 Nov 2015   #66
PiS is not some Jewish pro Israeli party delph. I don't know where people get the impression that Kaczynski is a Jew. Even if he has Jewish ancestry, it's quite clear he's Catholic and the party is pro Catholic. Whether some of the narodowcy are just tolerating PiS for now or not, they're definitely happier now than when PO was in charge. In fact I saw some people in the march mention that they said they would return to Poland when PO was not in charge and now that this has happened, they've returned.
OP Polonius3  980 | 12275
13 Nov 2015   #67
Kaczynski is a Jew

Has Delph been alleging or suggesting that Kaczyński is Jewish?
Harry
13 Nov 2015   #68
PiS is not some Jewish pro Israeli party delph. I don't know where people get the impression that Kaczynski is a Jew.

The kind of cretins who went on the parade of morons on Wednesday (and ended it with the kebab shops on that side of the river apparently doing the best business they have done all year) are not exactly noted as being great thinkers, have they.

In fact I saw some people in the march mention that they said they would return to Poland when PO was not in charge and now that this has happened, they've returned.

I'll call bullshiit on that claim. And if they were able to return to Poland with such short notice, they certainly aren't the kind of people we need here.

Has Delph been alleging or suggesting that Kaczyński is Jewish?

Isn't it your job to obsess over who is and isn't a Jew?
delphiandomine  86 | 17823
13 Nov 2015   #69
PiS is not some Jewish pro Israeli party delph.

Are you kidding me? PiS are about as Jewish-friendly as it gets behind it all - Lech Kaczyński was noted for his excellent relations with the Jewish community, and there was this little gem a while ago - https://polishforums.com/news/pro-israel-lobby-formed-parliament-74662/

PiS support the Washington line, which means supporting Israel. It's pretty simple.

I don't know where people get the impression that Kaczynski is a Jew.

No-one said he was, except you.

it's quite clear he's Catholic and the party is pro Catholic.

He's only pro Catholic because it suits him politically. Kaczyński's entire career has been spent jumping around platforms - it's clear that he has no real political leanings.

Whether some of the narodowcy are just tolerating PiS for now or not, they're definitely happier now than when PO was in charge.

I think the clear threat to PiS was made that the same thing will happen again if they don't get their way.

In fact I saw some people in the march mention that they said they would return to Poland when PO was not in charge and now that this has happened, they've returned.

Highly unlikely, especially given the 1GBP-6PLN exchange rate at the minute. They're not going to give up washing dishes for 35zl+ an hour plus benefits in exchange for 10zł an hour and no benefits, even assuming anyone would hire them in the village that they came from.

Has Delph been alleging or suggesting that Kaczyński is Jewish?

I haven't, but there are others online suggesting exactly that.
Crow  154 | 9257
13 Nov 2015   #70
President Duda delivered a moving speech in Piłsudski Square

i would remind that i was right. Again. Duda came to Poland's Independence Day parade, exactly as i predicted (not only me, of course).

So, Duda spoke at Pilsudski Square. Isn`t that quite symbolic? Remind you of something? Intermarium, of course. Duda insist on it.

by the God, Poles are restless. i love them, i sympathize with them and i understand brave Polish brotherly people. This image shows that Poles demand independent Poland and they are willing to defend their fatherland. Well, this is for sure clear message to all who intend to suggests another partition of Poland.

----

I was surprised that so few people fly the the Polish flag in my village here in lower Silesia, I think that many of them have lost their sense of pride in Poland, or they just can't be bothered.

i believe in Silesians. They are good Slavs and loyal to Poland.
Harry
13 Nov 2015   #71
Duda came to Poland's Independence Day parade

No he did not. The parade of morons was later in the day and in a completely different location.
Crow  154 | 9257
13 Nov 2015   #72
Harry, do you deny that Duda took part in marking the Polish Independence Day?

Beautiful, beautiful, Poland is awaken. You know when would Anglos assimilate Poland? Never, that`s when. Never!

Polish patriots march through Warsaw on Polish Independence Day



Marsz Niepodległości 2015 - przemówienie - ks. Jacek Międlar



Poles, my brothers, we Serbians are with you. You are true leading people of Europe. You are the hope. i have tears in my eyes from great joy when see how is spirit of Polish people strong. God save Poland! Poles protect Her!

Slavia Mati! Sarmatia Besmrtna!

There is the God. There is the Poland.

Transmisja Marszu Niepodległości z Warszawy


Harry
13 Nov 2015   #73
Harry, do you deny that Duda took part in marking the Polish Independence Day?

Of course he did: the president has to. What he did not do was join the parade of morons, despite your predictions that he would.
Crow  154 | 9257
13 Nov 2015   #74
Harry, Harry, Harry, you and your mental petting. i know what i predicted. Poles call it `Marszu Niepodległości`. Word `parade` is used as title of this thread. What i said (and wanted to say) is that would Duda come to mark the day of Polish independence and, Duda came. Now, did Duda took part in Marsz is another question. Actually, maybe he did, maybe he didn`t. Who knows. What is important, Duda came and he spoke at Pilsudski square.
Harry
13 Nov 2015   #75
Now, did Duda took part in Marsz is another question. Actually, maybe he did, maybe he didn`t. Who knows.

It's not a question at all! It's a very simple fact: Duda was asked to take part in the parade of morons and he turned them down.
Ironside  50 | 12350
13 Nov 2015   #76
to take part in the parade of morons

A very disrespectful attitude Harry, they are your betters.

Poles, my brothers, we Serbians are with you. You are true leading people of Europe. You are the hope. i have tears in my eyes from great joy when see how is spirit of Polish people strong. God save Poland! Poles protect Her!

Thank you Crow. Kosovo is Serbian!
dolnoslask
13 Nov 2015   #77
Harry " parade of morons"

You should show more respect for your host country.
Harry
13 Nov 2015   #78
I have far more respect for Poland than those idiots, and I've done far more for Poland than them too.
dolnoslask
13 Nov 2015   #79
Harry: the parade of *Morons" as you call them, is to remember the sacrifice that Poland made to gain its freedom, my grandfather fought with pilsudski are you calling them morons, If the day ever comes(god forbid) will you prepared to shed your blood for poland?
Harry
13 Nov 2015   #80
the parade of *Morons" as you call them, is to remember the sacrifice that Poland made to gain its freedom

Sadly it isn't. It should be, but it isn't.
dolnoslask
13 Nov 2015   #81
Harry "Sadly it isn't. It should be, but it isn't."

The vast majority who marched were peacful families , happy smilng even giving each other hugs and sweets, later in the evening some idiots come out and throw flares at the police, the worlds press take loads of pictures of the few idiots and splash it on the tv.

Its like the brixton carnival in the uk, the vast majority of people are out to celebrate their culture and share with others then later on in the night the idiot minority come out.

Again the worlds press post the pictures of the negative.

this years march in poland has been the most peacful in years.

Don't forget that this day used to symbolize the polish resistance to communist authority, and yes they took it out on the police, there is no need for this today in a free poland. some are just slow to learn.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823
13 Nov 2015   #82
Harry: the parade of *Morons" as you call them, is to remember the sacrifice that Poland made to gain its freedom, my grandfather fought with pilsudski are you calling them morons, If the day ever comes(god forbid) will you prepared to shed your blood for poland?

As if most of them would ever fight for Poland. They were the same people that formed the nucleus of the ZOMO troops, and before that, the same people that willingly collaborated with anti-democratic elements.

Let's not kid ourselves here - there are patriots, and then there are "patriots".
dolnoslask
13 Nov 2015   #83
delphiandomine again you are concentrating your thoughts on the minority of idiots, they do no represent what the day is about, nor do they represent the majority of the polish people.
OP Polonius3  980 | 12275
13 Nov 2015   #84
the nucleus of the ZOMO

You've got your wires crossed. Apparently you are not aware of what the Polish people have been saing about PO: "Kiedyś był ochotnikiem ORMO, teraz głosuje za Platformą!
delphiandomine  86 | 17823
13 Nov 2015   #85
I really don't think the rantings of a solitary lunatic on the internet constitute "the voice of Poland".

delphiandomine again you are concentrating your thoughts on the minority of idiots, they do no represent what the day is about, nor do they represent the majority of the polish people.

If you march with them, you associate with them. It's that simple.
Webkot
13 Nov 2015   #86
Back under your rock Delph!
dolnoslask
13 Nov 2015   #87
delphiandomine

I will march to celebrate the freedom that my grandfather fought for in 1918, And also that of my father with the polish II Corps in WWII

You need to get back to your petty squabbles in the off topic bin (They might be talking about you)
delphiandomine  86 | 17823
13 Nov 2015   #88
I will march to celebrate the freedom that my grandfather fought for in 1918, And also that of my father with the polish II Corps in WWII

I think you should find a different march. They're not celebrating freedom, they're marching to remove it.

I'm pretty sure your grandfather and father would be utterly appalled if they knew that you wanted to march with individuals that openly promote ideologies that they fought against.
dolnoslask
13 Nov 2015   #89
delphiandomine I understand your concerns in your last post , and i know that there are dangerous elements who are trying to hijack what this march should be all about.

One thing I learned from my father is to confront these idiots and win back that freedom , which they want to take from us.

I do my bit from time to time, they warn me to keep quiet, i tell them i don't give a sh?t,

We need to stand up and fight for freedom and democracy, it should never be taken for granted... I think the president said as much in his speech.

They are a minority stand up march, confront the idiots.
OP Polonius3  980 | 12275
13 Nov 2015   #90
They're not celebrating freedom

Hoolies constituted a tiny fraction of the tens of thousands of marchers. No-one remembers seeing so many Polish flags in a single march. Even if all of Poland's RN backers turned out (and they didn't) you would have a coupla thousand at best. The rest were normal, decent, patriotic Poles. Maybe the reason for the calm and lack of trouble was that people felt for the first time in years that a truly Polish president and government were now in power. There was no need protest against PO on the leash of foreign corprorations. Also. thai hideous symbol of perversion, the notorious "rainbow", had fortunately been dismanteld and dumped.


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