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US to deploy Patriot missiles to Poland


Sokrates 8 | 3,346
25 Mar 2009 #151
Many Poles are unable to appreciate the advantages of this and look to violence as the answer to their problem

True but its a temporary state caused by losses in Polish elites due to WW2 and communism, in US its deliberate brainwashing in order to create a nation of indoctrinated cretins easily manipulated and governed.
VaFunkoolo 6 | 654
25 Mar 2009 #152
True but its a temporary state caused by losses in Polish elites due to WW2

I admire your perception of temporary - it's actually not often I have met a Pole who has been able to take such a long term view of things
nunczka 8 | 458
25 Mar 2009 #153
Yes they do but thats because they're backwater barbarians rolling in their own shit and moaning to Allah rather than some great evil terrorist organization, if we just kept out of Pakistan and Afganistan and let them rot in their own crap they'd leave us alone as well.

Some time you amaze me. Finally you came up with a great solution. Even I agree with you.
Why but why are western nations fighting in Afghanistan. Why cant their own people fight their own war instead of growing poppies We all should pull out. Immidiately
HatefulBunch397 - | 658
25 Mar 2009 #154
US its deliberate brainwashing in order to create a nation of indoctrinated cretins easily manipulated and governed.

No, we just know we have the most nukes on earth so who needs violence?
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
25 Mar 2009 #155
I admire your perception of temporary - it's actually not often I have met a Pole who has been able to take such a long term view of things

Give it 10 more years in case of Poland, US has been steadily cretinized since WW2 so someone actually sat down planned and carried out a process of making the nation into a bunch of sheep for a better part of a century.

No, we just know we have the most nukes on earth so who needs violence?

You actually reinforce my point by making such remarks, the target since WW2 was always not Vietnam, not Korea but US citizen who's been made progressively more stupid, less aware of social and political realities and more susceptible to manipulation.

Current Americans have a reputation of stupid and are stupid as a result of a long and drawn out process which i believe is a deliberate one, just compare yourselves with Americans from the civil war era, the intellectual gap is epic, someone actually made an effort to turn you into a nation of morons.
VaFunkoolo 6 | 654
25 Mar 2009 #156
No, we just know we have the most nukes on earth so who needs violence?

Thats a strange comment to make when discussing one of the most violent nations on earth

Are you confusing America with somewhere else?

McDonalds is not actually a country

someone actually sat down planned and carried out a process of making the nation into a bunch of sheep for a better part of a century.

Well, theres no better way to control a people than to sell them a dogma... and many Americans seem to have fallen for it...
HatefulBunch397 - | 658
25 Mar 2009 #157
Well, theres no better way to control a people than to sell them a dogma...

Are you saying we are wolf in sheep clothes?
Randal 1 | 577
25 Mar 2009 #158
Americans have a reputation of stupid and are stupid as a result of a long and drawn out process which i believe is a deliberate one ... someone actually made an effort to turn you into a nation of morons.

Well, you're right there. And the payoff just came as those responsble just took power.
nunczka 8 | 458
25 Mar 2009 #159
Current Americans have a reputation of stupid and are stupid as a result of a long and drawn out process which i believe is a deliberate one, just compare yourselves with Americans from the civil war era, the intellectual gap is epic, someone actually made an effort to turn you into a nation of morons.

We Americans were so stupid, that Poland allowed us to put in a missle defence system that might not even work to prevent a buffer zone between Russia and America in case of a ground war.
HatefulBunch397 - | 658
25 Mar 2009 #160
Current Americans have a reputation of stupid

Well, everyone but ones from Polish immigrant grandparents are
VaFunkoolo 6 | 654
26 Mar 2009 #161
Are you saying we are wolf in sheep clothes?

No sweetheart

Bless
HatefulBunch397 - | 658
26 Mar 2009 #162
LOL you say they are violent and others say sheep so they must be a wolf in sheep's clothing. It's the only way to explain that.
VaFunkoolo 6 | 654
26 Mar 2009 #163
I dont think you understand what people are actually saying at least half the time

What you quoted me on above had nothing to do with violence - it had to do with being sold a dogma which was a reference to the stupidity of many Americans

dogma is not a type of animal, wolf, sheep or even a dog
HatefulBunch397 - | 658
26 Mar 2009 #164
What you quoted me on above had nothing to do with violence

You did not say America most violent nation on earth? I guess it went over your head.
Sokrates said violence is a temporary state and Americans have been brainwashed into being obedient, non violent sheep?
So what is it? Non violent Sheep? Most violent nation on earth...must I explain EVERYTHING??
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
26 Mar 2009 #165
We Americans were so stupid, that Poland allowed us to put in a missle defence system that might not even work to prevent a buffer zone between Russia and America in case of a ground war.

I believe that there's a hidden agenda there, USA has a long term policy of confrontation with Russia and this shield is something along the lines of personal insult rather than actual piece of working hardware.

Poland has some things to lose, some things to gain but ultimate bucket of shit will fall on US, Russia in the future will be more accomodating to Poland since it will be busy with Ukraine, US though might lose a lot due to Russia creating a block with China if you piss it off enough.
lukimp80 1 | 74
26 Mar 2009 #166
Poland has some things to lose, some things to gain but ultimate bucket of shit will fall on US, Russia in the future will be more accomodating to Poland since it will be busy with Ukraine, US though might lose a lot due to Russia creating a block with China if you piss it off enough.

If and when Russia, China get in a conflict with America. The whole world will be turned to glass. The survivors will glow in the dark, until radiation claims them too.
HatefulBunch397 - | 658
26 Mar 2009 #167
If and when Russia, China get in a conflict with America.

It's not just going to be America, it will involve most of the world.
lukimp80 1 | 74
26 Mar 2009 #168
I dont think so HB. There is no way that America and any other allies can match the masses of Russia and China. This will be a nuclear war. It will probably be over in less than a week, with no winner.

A ground war is not feasible.
HatefulBunch397 - | 658
26 Mar 2009 #169
This will be a nuclear war.

You make a good point and I've thought about this. It won't involve a ground war. (because of the threat of nuclear annihilation- US has the most nukes with Russia a close second) It won't involve infiltration of troops nor air force, navy, army or marines. It will be a war involving money and politics. That is how infilitration will occur until suddenly China has everything with Russia as her lap dog. This might belong in the next 30 years thread.
lukimp80 1 | 74
26 Mar 2009 #170
HB, Look what just one bomb did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And they were only Atomic bombs. Today there are hydrogen bombs and God only knows what else they dont tell us. It only takes one nut to set it off. Right off hand, I can think of at least three that would fit that discription
HatefulBunch397 - | 658
26 Mar 2009 #171
It only takes one nut to set it off.

I've thought about this too, lukimp. It's a serious concern. All it takes are people at the top deciding it would be in everyone's best interest. It would be more than one person, an entire administration would start brainwashing people into believing they are doomed unless something like this happens. They should make this plot into a Hollywood film to serve as an early warning so everyone will know what to look for so they can become proactive.
Randal 1 | 577
26 Mar 2009 #172
The prospect of nuclear war has changed greatly in recent times. During the cold war, both sides were constrained by the threat of mutual annihilation and level heads were able to prevail. This is why nukes were limited to responsible nations. No more. Today there are unstable nutjob crackpots and terrorist governments with nuclear weapons and they seem willing to use them, consequences be damned. And much like these ground wars we are fighting today, it is difficult to defend against an enemy who is willing to blow themselves up in order to win, and for little more reason than they think their god is better than others’ god.
lukimp80 1 | 74
26 Mar 2009 #173
HB, I think that I am somewhat older than you. I do not want to be an alarmist, but I can see what is happening in the world today. Its scary. Do you think for a second that there are not

already WMB's plus Anthrax planted in the us?

Look what happened in Cuba in the 1960. We came but a few hours from blowing each other up. The same situation exist today with Chaves, Cuba, North Korea. Keep your fingers crossed
HatefulBunch397 - | 658
26 Mar 2009 #174
it is difficult to defend against an enemy who is willing to blow themselves up in order to win,

They've been brainwashed and the ones who have been brainwashed are the most dangerously threatening of all. It's an omnious indication of their mindset.

HB, I think that I am somewhat older than you. I do not want to be an alarmist, but I can see what is happening in the world today. Its scary. Do you think for a second that there are not
already WMB's plus Anthrax planted in the us?

I'm more worried about rogue terrorists who are willing to set off dirty bombs so no nation has to formally take responsibility.

Look what happened in Cuba in the 1960. We came but a few hours from blowing each other up. The same situation exist today with Chaves, Cuba, North Korea. Keep your fingers crossed

Any nation would be absolutely idiotically stupid to aim a nuke at the US. If you think IDF is harsh, hah, you aint seen nothing!!!!
lukimp80 1 | 74
26 Mar 2009 #175
HB, Look at Randalls post.. I think that his version says it all.

If I were to predict the onset, I would have to say that it will start with Israel and Iran with others joining in. VEERY SOON.
HatefulBunch397 - | 658
26 Mar 2009 #176
If I were to predict the onset, I would have to say that it will start with Israel and Iran with others joining in. VEERY SOON.

Dunno about that. Thems small potatos. The formidable ones are Russia and China.
lukimp80 1 | 74
26 Mar 2009 #177
Yeah, but look at WW2. It started with Germany invading Poland.
Before it was over, look how many countries were involved.
HatefulBunch397 - | 658
26 Mar 2009 #178
That's because no one did enough when Germany first invaded.
lukimp80 1 | 74
26 Mar 2009 #179
Yes, but whatever the reason, it ended up with a world war. Things just tend to escalate. It dont take much.. Just look at your civil riots.

A small spark could set it off.
The hell with it.. I am not a drinking man, but I feel like partying

SO lets have a party, lets have some fun. We will dance to the Polka until the morning sun. PIJA KUBA DO JAKUBA, Jakub do Michala. Pijes ty pijes ja, na kompania cala.Sto Lat, Sto lat niech zyje, zyje nam
Wroclaw Boy
26 Mar 2009 #180
lukimp80:
Yeah, but look at WW2. It started with Germany invading Poland.
Before it was over, look how many countries were involved.
That's because no one did enough when Germany first invaded.

what would you have wanted done?

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