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Natasa 1 | 572
3 Oct 2011 #391
Causing a world war

That was not the cause of war. The triggering factor yes.

One bullet can't be a cause unless it penetrates the container of highly explosive material.

The causes of World War I, which began in central Europe in July 1914, included many intertwined factors, such as the conflicts and hostility of the four decades leading up to the war. Militarism, alliances, imperialism, and nationalism played major roles in the conflict as well. However, the immediate origins of the war lay in the decisions taken by statesmen and generals during the July Crisis of 1914, casus belli for which was the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria and his wife by Gavrilo Princip, an irredentist Serb.[1]

The crisis came after a long and difficult series of diplomatic clashes between the Great Powers (Italy, France, Germany, Great Britain, Austria-Hungarian Empire and Russia) over European and colonial issues in the decade before 1914 that had left tensions high. In turn these diplomatic clashes can be traced to changes in the balance of power in Europe since 1867.[2] The more immediate cause for the war was tensions over territory in the Balkans. Austria-Hungary competed with Serbia and Russia for territory and influence in the region and they pulled the rest of the Great Powers into the conflict through their various alliances and treaties.

TheOther 6 | 3695
3 Oct 2011 #392
That was not the cause of war. The triggering factor yes.

Details... :)
Natasa 1 | 572
3 Oct 2011 #393
The devil is in the details ;), previously 'The God is in the deatils', meaning details matter ;)
Crow 158 | 9185
4 Oct 2011 #394
[quote]peterweg[quote]Speaking as a quarter-Turk.

peterwege, you may be quarter-Turk, half-Turk or total-Turk, i actually don`t give a sh** but, keep your thoughts for yourself when it comes to Slavic world. Its not of your concern

[quote]TheOther[quote]Causing a world war with millions of dead. Something to be proud of, really...

Serbs? Austro-Hungaria issued ultimatum to Serbia and attacked us then. They started, they got di** between the eyes
legend 3 | 658
4 Oct 2011 #395
If USA wants to provoke Russia, its ok, its USA`s right, its USA`s suicide. But, that shouldn`t be on the head of Poles.

Well these two countries have a lot of money and resources.
Many would return to Poland but in this case I would prefer for many to return first before I return.

PS. I like my fresh water here in Canada :)

Legend, forgive him. Americunts have this pathetic and irrational response of associating something they do not like (and often do not understand, as in this case) as communist.

Ha. Ya I understand. Ive heard many right winged people say Democrats and Obama are communist... shows how much they know.
TheOther 6 | 3695
4 Oct 2011 #396
Crow: Austro-Hungaria issued ultimatum to Serbia and attacked us then

Remind me why they did it...

In post #372, you seemed to be quite proud that a Serb shot the archduke and his wife:

Crow: We Serbs always provided best orgies...

sascha 1 | 824
4 Oct 2011 #397
the other wrote:

Remind me why they did it.

since u r so keen on details, read a little the link and feel free to comment afterwards. what about comment #393? read it?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I

peter weg wrote:

Speaking as a quarter-Turk.

r u talking about urself?

US to deploy Patriot missiles to Poland

nato membership makes many things possible ;)
Crow 158 | 9185
4 Oct 2011 #398
In post #372, you seemed to be quite proud that a Serb shot the archduke and his wife:

his wife was, unfortunately, collateral damage. Gavrilo nicely said that he didn`t want to assassinate her but evil archduke

Archduke souldn`t provoke. He mistaken. He insulted Svetovid. On the day of Svetovid he came to humiliate Serbians, he came as occupational ruler over Serbs and all Slavs, he came as a ruler of a country that annexed Serbian land, he came as representative of country that severely restricted rights of Serbs and other Slavs. He symbolized all Germanic that for eons assimilated, exterminated and humiliated millions of Slavs. Somebody had to stop THEM and God gave that role to us Serbs.

Crow: We Serbs always provided best orgies...

it was metaphor. i could also said that Serbs initiated chain reaction of events that gave chance to Poland to grab the independence. Neither the France, neither the Britain or USA gave that chance to Poland but we Serbs- liberators, Sarmats, as it is described in ancient legends, we Serbians last bearers of legendary Sarmatian name. i could tell whatever i want. i am Serbian
TheOther 6 | 3695
4 Oct 2011 #399
what about comment #393? read it?

What about comments #394 and 395? Read it? ;)
sascha 1 | 824
4 Oct 2011 #400
of course.

and u? what about the wiki link with the 'details' ur so keen on. already finished?
TheOther 6 | 3695
4 Oct 2011 #401
of course

Then why do you ask funny questions?
sascha 1 | 824
4 Oct 2011 #402
the topic is serious, i mean ww1 and who started i etc and whose 'guilt' is it so why not make it a little bit more funny?

esp when the blame for beginning the war is always going to the wrong side

can we just stick to this, please: US to deploy Patriot missiles to Poland
TheOther 6 | 3695
4 Oct 2011 #403
As Natasa and Crow already said: Gavrilo Princip was the trigger for WW1. Is that something to be proud of? Some here seem to think, yes. But we're getting off-topic now, so let's leave it at that before we get binned.

EDIT: sorry, Mod, I posted this before I saw your comment.
Natasa 1 | 572
4 Oct 2011 #404
p was the trigger for W

I read interviews with some Austrian and I think US historians agreeing that without that bullet that war would have happened. The CAUSES for the war were there and waiting for the right moment. Trigger itself is less relevant.

Gavrilo Prinicip for Serbs is a symbol of strivings for freedom and refusal to live under Austrian oppression (previous annexation of Bosnia inhabited by Serbs).
pawian 221 | 24216
14 Jun 2024 #405
Thank you.
Americans suggested their Patriot battery deployed in the city of Rzeszów to protect American soldiers staying there could be transferred to Ukraine. Polish rulers and military are sceptical. Two or three publicly refused to let it go.

However, one retired general claims that we don`t really need this battery coz the possibility of using it in Poland is very low. He thinks it should be sent to Ukraine.


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