Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia?

Let's remember: joint Russia-Germany victory parade, Brest-Litovsk, 1939

I am really proud of you for telling how it really was...

I was there till 1966, right in the center of Warsaw...No "occupation", no drama, no Russification, free education and medcare...Lousy pay so I left...That's it...

Let's remember US-USSR cooperation and friendship .... and how many American lives were saved by the Red Army...

Neither was saving 200,000 civilians from being systematically slaughtered. Sure. We understand.

That's why I said it would be strange to accuse an enemy of betrayal.


What about letting in thousands being sent to Poland by Germany? Asymmetric warfare too?

In the east we are at least trying to stop them. In the west - how many did the Border Guard sent back to Germany?


It may seem abstract at the moment but in the long run it is either that or a war. A proper, devastating war - one that would make the current fisticuffs in Ukraine look like kindergarten brawl.


Internal cohesion and ethnic uniformity are very valuable things for a country.

That it was a result of nazi genocide of Jews and Soviets shifting our borders? Surely you don't blame Poland for that?

Absolutely. Only a friend can betray you. Good point.

Everybody, you and me, has a priority list. So do countries...The US is still in the state of confusion being in NATO and acting like the world's dumbest cop...

What about it? Can you focus? You're all over the place, can't hold a serious conversation. Geez, you Poles, who taught you those dumb ways?
So far, it seems that if Poland were to close the German border, that would stop.
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He is practicing the art of bending backwoods without a spine, a Chinese technique: od-vra-cac-ko-ta-ogon-em.
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24 people in one week, mainly because they forgot their IDs.

The US didn't invade Poland together with the Nazis, didn't murder thousands of Polish officers, didn't deport Poles from their homes, didn't send Poles to forced labour camps where they were dying like flies, etc. Yes, let us remember about that.


And inbreeding? lol Do I remember correctly that you have German roots? 🤔


Are you playing dumb on purpose?

1970s and 1980s were hardly "post-war", and we still had very decent birthrates back then.

The current civilisation (or I should rather say kurvilisation) of childless parasites, egoism and consumerism will affect the size of Polish population more than all the partitions, uprisings and world wars put together (and it won't take over 200 years either).


Are you calling the generation of our parents and grandparents inbreds? That's rather low even by your standards. :(

And no, I don't have German roots.

Right. There's a long drive ahead of me tomorrow. Good night, clueless people.

When we left the communist era only around 7% of population had higher education, but the fertility rate was already 2,12/woman and in steady decline. 1989 was the last year of a replacement rate.

In 2021 23% of the population had higher education and fertility rate was 1,45/woman. However, we reached the bottom in 2003 already, with 1,26. Since then despite more and more people completing their studies, we're on a slight rise, mostly due to improved economic conditions and better infrastructure for having children (greater availability of nurseries & preschools).

UN projections for Poland are quite optimistic: 1,63 in 2050 and 1,73 in 2100. If we could add to it a steady stream of migration from selected countries, who knows, maybe we're going to make it until the end of the century!

Well there was a martial law baby boom (people with nothing else to do?).

How long did that last?

Do you know when most children are being conceived? During autumn-winter period :)


Don't worry Mr 800+, we all will be replaced by AI eventually anyway :)))


Don't be an idiot. I'm actually saying the opposite - many Poles have some kind of roots thanks to the history of Polish state being multi-ethnic and thanks to immigrants (there were even German immigrants in my Kielce).

Oh, and btw, my standards are very high, unlike yours, apparently.


Must've been someone else then. I doubt that your family history is 100% ethnically "clean" though :)

I very much doubt that most Poles could claim that.
But I do!!!!

Anyways, look like there will be no strategic alliance or even any sort of normalisation of bilateral relations between Poland and Russia. My pan-Slavic heart bleeds but Russia is currently ruled by criminals who don't mind killing Slavic people.

The level of military production in Russia points clearly to the fact that they plan to continue the war not only against Ukraine but also against NATO. The putinist regime is preparing for a war against European NATO east flank, this much is certain. If patriotic forces in Russia don't raise and stop those madmen, we will have a war.

The most likely scenario is Chinese invasion of Taiwan coordinated with Russian invasion of NATO's eastern flank. We should hasten and intensify military preparations for the inevitable. Delay and indecision are a crime.

These relations are, in diplomatic terms, stable and based on realism.

If those Slavic people, aka Usrainians, would kindly get the fvck out of Russia, the killing would stop in 10 minutes...

But, to please the DC and EU warmongers, Usrainians are sent to die while everybody, including homeless dogs, knows that Russia will win because it cannot not to.

Too late for an oops...sorry...wrong address...

You are a complete and utter moron that is not following this war properly.

It is obvious to most intelligent or educated people that Russia is losing this war.

What is your mental problem?

...debating with Russia haters...That's really moronic on my part...

Nobody wants to debate anymore.