Let's remember: joint Russia-Germany victory parade, Brest-Litovsk, 1939
Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia?
you withdrew your troops without a single shot
I am really proud of you for telling how it really was...
I was there till 1966, right in the center of Warsaw...No "occupation", no drama, no Russification, free education and medcare...Lousy pay so I left...That's it...
Let's remember: joint Russia-Germany victory parade, Brest-Litovsk, 1939
Let's remember US-USSR cooperation and friendship .... and how many American lives were saved by the Red Army...
Assisting AK was not on the list.
Neither was saving 200,000 civilians from being systematically slaughtered. Sure. We understand.
That's why I said it would be strange to accuse an enemy of betrayal.
action against the criminals attempting to cross our eastern border
What about letting in thousands being sent to Poland by Germany? Asymmetric warfare too?
In the east we are at least trying to stop them. In the west - how many did the Border Guard sent back to Germany?
abstract issue of a strategic alliance with Russia.
It may seem abstract at the moment but in the long run it is either that or a war. A proper, devastating war - one that would make the current fisticuffs in Ukraine look like kindergarten brawl.
that's so f*cking "amazing" according to you? o_O
Internal cohesion and ethnic uniformity are very valuable things for a country.
That it was a result of nazi genocide of Jews and Soviets shifting our borders? Surely you don't blame Poland for that?
That's why I said it would be strange to accuse an enemy of betrayal.
Absolutely. Only a friend can betray you. Good point.
Everybody, you and me, has a priority list. So do countries...The US is still in the state of confusion being in NATO and acting like the world's dumbest cop...
What about letting in thousands being sent to Poland by Germany?
What about it? Can you focus? You're all over the place, can't hold a serious conversation. Geez, you Poles, who taught you those dumb ways?
So far, it seems that if Poland were to close the German border, that would stop.
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You sound like Poles
He is practicing the art of bending backwoods without a spine, a Chinese technique: od-vra-cac-ko-ta-ogon-em.
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how many did the Border Guard sent back to Germany?
24 people in one week, mainly because they forgot their IDs.
Let's remember US-USSR cooperation and friendship ....
The US didn't invade Poland together with the Nazis, didn't murder thousands of Polish officers, didn't deport Poles from their homes, didn't send Poles to forced labour camps where they were dying like flies, etc. Yes, let us remember about that.
Internal cohesion and ethnic uniformity are very valuable things for a country.
And inbreeding? lol Do I remember correctly that you have German roots? 🤔
Surely you don't blame Poland for that?
Are you playing dumb on purpose?
The post-war baby boom was a universal phenomenon
1970s and 1980s were hardly "post-war", and we still had very decent birthrates back then.
The current civilisation (or I should rather say kurvilisation) of childless parasites, egoism and consumerism will affect the size of Polish population more than all the partitions, uprisings and world wars put together (and it won't take over 200 years either).
And inbreeding? lol
Are you calling the generation of our parents and grandparents inbreds? That's rather low even by your standards. :(
And no, I don't have German roots.
Right. There's a long drive ahead of me tomorrow. Good night, clueless people.
The current civilisation (or I should rather say kurvilisation) of childless parasites, egoism and consumerism will affect the size of Polish population
When we left the communist era only around 7% of population had higher education, but the fertility rate was already 2,12/woman and in steady decline. 1989 was the last year of a replacement rate.
In 2021 23% of the population had higher education and fertility rate was 1,45/woman. However, we reached the bottom in 2003 already, with 1,26. Since then despite more and more people completing their studies, we're on a slight rise, mostly due to improved economic conditions and better infrastructure for having children (greater availability of nurseries & preschools).
UN projections for Poland are quite optimistic: 1,63 in 2050 and 1,73 in 2100. If we could add to it a steady stream of migration from selected countries, who knows, maybe we're going to make it until the end of the century!
1980s were hardly "post-war", and we still had very decent birthrates back then.
Well there was a martial law baby boom (people with nothing else to do?).
How long did that last?
1970s and 1980s were hardly "post-war", and we still had very decent birthrates back then.
Do you know when most children are being conceived? During autumn-winter period :)
The current civilisation (or I should rather say kurvilisation) of childless parasites, egoism and consumerism
Don't worry Mr 800+, we all will be replaced by AI eventually anyway :)))
Are you calling the generation of our parents and grandparents inbreds? That's rather low even by your standards. :(
Don't be an idiot. I'm actually saying the opposite - many Poles have some kind of roots thanks to the history of Polish state being multi-ethnic and thanks to immigrants (there were even German immigrants in my Kielce).
Oh, and btw, my standards are very high, unlike yours, apparently.
And no, I don't have German roots.
Must've been someone else then. I doubt that your family history is 100% ethnically "clean" though :)
I doubt that your family history is 100% ethnically "clean" though :)
I very much doubt that most Poles could claim that.
But I do!!!!
Anyways, look like there will be no strategic alliance or even any sort of normalisation of bilateral relations between Poland and Russia. My pan-Slavic heart bleeds but Russia is currently ruled by criminals who don't mind killing Slavic people.
The level of military production in Russia points clearly to the fact that they plan to continue the war not only against Ukraine but also against NATO. The putinist regime is preparing for a war against European NATO east flank, this much is certain. If patriotic forces in Russia don't raise and stop those madmen, we will have a war.
The most likely scenario is Chinese invasion of Taiwan coordinated with Russian invasion of NATO's eastern flank. We should hasten and intensify military preparations for the inevitable. Delay and indecision are a crime.
The level of military production in Russia points clearly to the fact that they plan to continue the war not only against Ukraine but also against NATO. The putinist regime is preparing for a war against European NATO east flank, this much is certain. If patriotic forces in Russia don't raise and stop those madmen, we will have a war.
The most likely scenario is Chinese invasion of Taiwan coordinated with Russian invasion of NATO's eastern flank. We should hasten and intensify military preparations for the inevitable. Delay and indecision are a crime.
normalisation of bilateral relations between Poland and Russia.
These relations are, in diplomatic terms, stable and based on realism.
My pan-Slavic heart bleeds but Russia is currently ruled by criminals who don't mind killing Slavic people.
If those Slavic people, aka Usrainians, would kindly get the fvck out of Russia, the killing would stop in 10 minutes...
But, to please the DC and EU warmongers, Usrainians are sent to die while everybody, including homeless dogs, knows that Russia will win because it cannot not to.
Too late for an oops...sorry...wrong address...
while everybody, including homeless dogs, knows that Russia will win because it cannot not to.
You are a complete and utter moron that is not following this war properly.
It is obvious to most intelligent or educated people that Russia is losing this war.
What is your mental problem?
What is your mental problem?
...debating with Russia haters...That's really moronic on my part...
debating with
Nobody wants to debate anymore.
ussia is currently ruled by criminals who don't mind killing Slavic people.
When has ever _not_ been ruled by criminals who don't mind killing Slavic people?
Really... name the time period and government involved....
Pan-slavism is as dumb as pan-arabism.... you might be able to cobble together something withe countries with generally similar values to Poland but no way can/would russia be involved.
Really... name the time period and government involved....
From 1990 to 2014...
Then, in 2014, the US warmongers staged a "revolution" in Usraine and lied and lied and lied ... until they couldn't lie anymore and admitted that all the negotiations were just to buy time to arm Usraine...
The only thing Russia did wrong was trusting these mother fvckers...from "NATO will stay here" till now...
Memo to Putin:
Stop being nice. Finish this war so I can visit Russia.
Memo to Putin: Stop being nice. Finish this war so I can visit Russia.
Really? You'd be arrested in minutes you stupid old man!
You'd be arrested in minutes you stupid old man!
They don't arrest people for stupidity there, they don't have that many prisons.
Ron2
24 Jul 2025 #234
Because of the war, Russia has cut ties with the West for a long time, possibly decades. It might not have been their plan, but now they'll likely stay a military focused country. For regular Russians, life there could get tough.
life there could get tough.
You want to see tough life? Go to Appalachia...or Western no-go zones...or Chicago ghetto where kids are shot on the way to school...Baghdad is an oasis of peace...
Bratwurst Boy 8 | 12351
24 Jul 2025 #236
WTF???
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Hating the enemy people and soldiers....okay....the usual, but giving such a ****** about your own?
Putin has his own wounded soldiers killed
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The images from the Ukrainian front are gruesome: Russian soldiers are increasingly killing their own wounded comrades! Near the front, wounded soldiers are not being transported to medical camps - they are being beaten to death and shot. Images from Ukrainian surveillance drones show this.
▶︎ A new video shows an injured Russian lying in a trench, but still visibly moving his head and arms. Another Russian soldier approaches, briefly inspects him, and then smashes his skull with three blows from a rifle butt. He then steps over his dead comrade and simply walks away.
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The background to the murders: There is no rescue chain for Russian offensive troops in Ukraine. An evacuation ties up people Russia hasn't planned to be on the front lines.
In contrast to the Ukrainian army, which risks the lives of dozens of soldiers daily to evacuate wounded soldiers, Russia's offensive forces operate on a "one-way street" on the ground, as a Ukrainian defense coordinator near Pokrovsk explained to BILD....
▶︎ A new video shows an injured Russian lying in a trench, but still visibly moving his head and arms. Another Russian soldier approaches, briefly inspects him, and then smashes his skull with three blows from a rifle butt. He then steps over his dead comrade and simply walks away.
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The background to the murders: There is no rescue chain for Russian offensive troops in Ukraine. An evacuation ties up people Russia hasn't planned to be on the front lines.
In contrast to the Ukrainian army, which risks the lives of dozens of soldiers daily to evacuate wounded soldiers, Russia's offensive forces operate on a "one-way street" on the ground, as a Ukrainian defense coordinator near Pokrovsk explained to BILD....
Hating the enemy people and soldiers....okay....the usual, but giving such a ****** about your own?
Putin has his own wounded soldiers killed
Colour me unsurprised.
Once again I will ask this question: when will Russian patriots wake up and stop this madman?
@ Torq
Russian patriots are on the front lines doing their best.
Russian patriots are on the front lines doing their best.
Bratwurst Boy 8 | 12351
24 Jul 2025 #239
when will Russian patriots wake up and stop this madman?
I believe even the Nazis cared about their own!
Russian patriots are on the front lines
Not those poor sods.
I meant those who care about Russia and can actually do something to stop the madness.
even the Nazis cared about their own!
Order is an order. War is a sh*tty affair.