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Why should Poland consider pursuing a strategic alliance with Russia?


Bobko  28 | 2843
25 Jul 2025   #301
I hate X until I meet X.

Haha, yes.

I have a Ukrainian friend here in NY, Vladislav, and he is about 195 centimeters tall and weighs about 120 kilograms.

Simultaneously, I have some non-Ukrainian friends who are professional "Ukraine haters".

When they meet Vlad, they suddenly begin to talk in a way I never get to hear from them, when it's just us. Suddenly, their approach to the conflict is very nuanced - and all they talk about is its infinite complexity. Hahaha!

Easy enough to hate each other on the internet, but when they come face to face Russians and Ukrainians are almost always the embodiment of courtesy itself.

Sure, there are videos of some deranged Russian Karen yelling slurs at Ukrainians in the Istanbul airport. Videos of Ukrainian drunks crashing bottles of wine over Russian drunks heads at some football match in Marseille. But it's not representative...

--//--

Here in New York, many Russians I know, attend Ukrainian charity drives, go to the same church, and appoint each other as godparents to their kids.

War is war. Life is life.
Novichok  7 | 10689
25 Jul 2025   #302
I don't like Jews.

My first love at 15 was Jewish. My best buddy was Jewish. I meet for lunch with three Jewish guys...

Go figure...
OP Torq  20 | 1944
25 Jul 2025   #303
I'm not a big fan of Muslims.

When I lived in Dublin, I met a guy called Ahmed who was running a local Internet cafe; he was the funnies c*nt in the universe and we got on legendarily well. Then, I joined this Turkish forum (aaaaah... memories...) - it was a difficult love but a love nonetheless. :)

I used to be a bit of a German-sceptic too... then I met BB :) Russians, of course, were the legendary Mongols from the East our grandmothers used to scare us with... then I met this guy Yuri from Klin (and, of course, Bobi and Veli later). :)

Hm... maybe Internet is not such a tool of Satan as some people depict it. ;)
Bobko  28 | 2843
25 Jul 2025   #304
I'm not a big fan of Muslims.

I don't know about Muslims, but I definitely hate Islam.

Stupid religion - designed for children. It cannot provide the same "brain f*ck" as Catholicism or Orthodoxy can.
Novichok  7 | 10689
25 Jul 2025   #305
Hm... maybe Internet is not such a tool of Satan as some people depict it. ;)

Internet is like alcohol...It releases the breaks and gives that sense of freedom to be a total azzhole...I do it everyday...

That's why I often talk to strangers I know I will never meet again...They act the same way...

Internet and forums like this one are therapeutic... When I am done for the day, it's like taking a picture-perfect shlt I want to frame...

Then I am ready for YouTube videos with kittens before bedtime...
OP Torq  20 | 1944
25 Jul 2025   #306
It cannot provide the same "brain f*ck" as Catholicism or Orthodoxy can.

Hmm... debatable.

The Arabic language somehow magically clings to your memory once you memorize something in it. I still remember some prayers (for various occasions) that Ahmed taught me about 20 years ago, and I suppose praying 5 times a day, at set times, with all those regular movements and rhytmic incantations, can properly affect your brain as well. Not to mention that Muslims have some top class and highly intelligent preachers (Khalid Yasin, Ali Hammuda, Mufti Menk, Hamza Yusuf, Hakim Murad - to name just a few).

I don't especially like Islam and Muslim immigrants in Europe (self preservation instinct, I guess) but one has to admit that they do what God ordered us to do - be fruitful and multiply. So, maybe they are right and we are wrong... may Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) have mercy on me if that's the case.

Internet and forums like this one are therapeutic...

Safety vent :)
mafketis  43 | 11764
25 Jul 2025   #307
they do what God ordered us to do - be fruitful and multiply.

Iran and Turkey (two of the most educated muslim majority countries) have very low fertility.... Even Saudi Arabia has low fertility now IINM
Bobko  28 | 2843
25 Jul 2025   #308
be fruitful and multiply

Turkey is doing a terrible job at it. Malaysia has a TFR of 1.5 or so.

Our Tatars are also forgetting to reproduce.

It seems even Islam is not impervious to modern pressures on the family.

Just wait for those Sudans and Malis to catch up in development, and they will stop making kids abruptly too.
Novichok  7 | 10689
25 Jul 2025   #309
and they will stop making kids abruptly too.

So who the hell will be left to invade Europe? Woke British morons will go nuts...Nobody likes the UK anymore? Boo hoo...
Bobko  28 | 2843
25 Jul 2025   #310
So who the hell will be left to invade Europe?

Goddamn Indians and Pakistanis.

They seem to have no "brakes".

Even Bangladesh - has more people than Russia.

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You should be happy - at least they are native English speakers (at least those that emigrate).
Novichok  7 | 10689
25 Jul 2025   #311
It releases the breaks

Hey, Novi, it's brakes, not breaks...Learn English, azzhole...

Thanks, Bobko...

I will take a Christian Latino over an English-speaking Muslim ... without any hesitation...
Lyzko  45 | 10114
25 Jul 2025   #312
Them's the breaks, Bobko!
Ironside  53 | 13686
25 Jul 2025   #313
..the Poles feel that way about Germany...

Nah, it's not the same. Before WWII, there weren't any great anti-German sentiments, just normal competitors. Also, you Germans are real a-holes as a state, while Poland harmed Ukraine at all, more if not for Poland, there wouldn't be any Ukraine.
Ironside  53 | 13686
25 Jul 2025   #314
Poland, as you can see, is not on that list.

I would ascribe to incompetent imbeciles called Polish politicians, they were in charge, which means PiS and the current coalition have been nothing but redundant waste living off our taxes.
mafketis  43 | 11764
25 Jul 2025   #315
I'm not a big fan of Muslims.

I've actually personally liked a large majority of the muslims I've known in real life, both men and women.

I think the religion is mostly nonsense outside of its place of origin (and maybe even there) but most I've known have been lovely people.

But large scale muslim migration to Europe has been a failure in every country that's tried it (in terms of social, economic and educational outcomes) so there's no need for more than scattered individuals in any European country.
Novichok  7 | 10689
26 Jul 2025   #316
I've actually personally liked a large majority of the muslims I've known in real life, both men and women.

They liked you, too, because to them you were just a naive white appetizer and an enabler...the main course being total conquest, Sharia, and death to the infidel...
Marrakesh
2 Aug 2025   #317
if not for Poland, there wouldn't be any Ukraine

You simply stole some land in 1921 which had been conquered by the Germans during WW1 and where Poles were an ethnic minority. Nothing to be proud of.
Korvinus  6 | 786
2 Aug 2025   #318
You simply stole some land in 1921 which had been conquered by the Germans during WW1

As a result of our wars with Ukraine and Soviet Russia we gained a small part of Ukraine while Soviets got most of it. Later Stalin used Ukrainian grain exports to kickstart industrial revolution in the Soviet Union. And soon Soviets became a power Poland could no longer match. Ukraine lost independence in 1920, we in 1939.

Poles rarely think ahead more than a few years. At least now we seem to have learned this art and we're trying to bolster our neighbour against Russia. Neutrality in this conflict would only hurt our vital interests. Russia without Ukraine is only a regional power. With Ukraine dependent/controlled/annexed Kremlin advances into the ranks of world powers.
Tacitus  2 | 1396
2 Aug 2025   #319
With Ukraine dependent/controlled/annexed Kremlin advances into the ranks of world powers.

Not to the rank of world power, but Russia would certainly became significantly more dangerous to the rest of Europe and Eastern Europe in particular.
Novichok  7 | 10689
2 Aug 2025   #320
more dangerous to the rest of Europe

Russia needs to occupy Europe because it lacks land and craves suicidal morons with Muslims at every corner...

What a thrill...
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 12351
2 Aug 2025   #321
.....thing is....half of all Russians are muslim Asians....ask Bobko! Not to mention their bought and paid for support.

Do you want true North Koreans occupying Europe???
Novichok  7 | 10689
3 Aug 2025   #322
half of all Russians are muslim Asians....ask Bobko!

Those Muslims know how to behave and what would happen if they didn't.

Did you notice a total absence of Muslim terrorists in China? I am not claiming that Russia is like China but the MO is similar.

In both countries, as opposed to Western Europe, governments are not afraid of Muslims.

At this point of my life, I prefer an iron fist over one made of playdough.

I am not joking when I say that NAZIS were not all that bad for Germans. No, I am not including death camp and WW2.
Alien  29 | 7326
4 Aug 2025   #323
I am not joking when I say that NAZIS were not all that bad for Germans

They happened to maintain good relations with Muslims.... 🤔
Ironside  53 | 13686
4 Aug 2025   #324
You simply stole some land in 1921

Wow, an idiot was detected. Congratulations! You have won the award for Idiot of the Month.
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Novichok  7 | 10689
4 Aug 2025   #325
Wow, an idiot was detected.

Iron, is it you?

That's way too low for the one I know. If all you can do is to insult the guys you don't like...why even bother.

Try my method...First explain why a guy is an idiot. Then conclude that he is.

Jumping to a conclusion without serving the basis for it is like getting the bill without getting the food.

So, where is the beef?
Ironside  53 | 13686
4 Aug 2025   #326
.First explain why a guy is an idiot.

If he doesn't know, my explanation will be wasted on him. I'm not a teacher, is not my calling to educate people.
Novichok  7 | 10689
4 Aug 2025   #327
...but you have friends who want to follow you and admire your eloquence...
Marrakesh
4 Aug 2025   #328
I'm not a teacher, is not my calling to educate people.

You're as uneducated as they come, Surrender Monkey.
Mr Grunwald  34 | 2274
4 Aug 2025   #329
I'm not a teacher

Besides, none of em here would pay any teacher to educate them anyways. It's very clear they had to be school drop outs. Only looking to fight somebody, not to learn.
Marrakesh
4 Aug 2025   #330
Neutrality in this conflict would only hurt our vital interests.

Yes, but who will finance that war? The EU will go bankrupt if it tries, and the current Polish military budget is not sustainable.


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