EU confirms it will take action against Poland over court reforms

You'd be surprised how easy it is to influence people.

I would have thought that you would have read How To Win Friends and Influence People! (and if not, why not?)

Sure sure, doesn't change the fact that CBOS shows over half of Poles support far right parties (PiS and Kukiz), that 3/4 of Poles reject migrants including half of PO voters, that the Catholic church has been deeply embedded into Polish society and continues to be (although a bit less than before), that even wyborcza shows PiS is far more popular than PO, Christ has also been crowned King of Poland, etc. etc.

It also doesn't change the fact that tens of thousands of people attended the independence day march, at least 100k (up to 1 mil) attended the rosary on the borders, and that Poles do not want the multiculturalism of the west.

You just don't like it because you're an economic migrant to a country that doesn't share your far left multicultural views. It's fine - not a big deal, but then don't tell us Poles what to do, how to act, etc. This is OUR country.

Thanks for your tax zloty though. It helped the editing in the anti-migrant movie Poland's foreign ministry made which even youtube had to cancel the comments. ROFL!!!!


Good luck influencing 3/4 of Poles.

My wife has a retired military officer in her family. She is ashamed of him. You had to be a party card holder to hold that position......

Yet you seem to think it's something to aspire to, doing the communist state's dirty work?

And, of course, as a Polish citizen who doesn't have a lengthy criminal record for things we won't mention, you have a much better chance of being elected than American felon.

No - a geologist by profession. My wife wanted to come back here to care for her sick relative. I was offered a cushy job at uni, and chose playing tennis 4 times a week instead of drinking myself to death in my corporate job. Horses for courses.

Of course - good for your wife's family member. Yes PZPR, along with educated, wise, etc. My uncle also holds a patent for a life saving blood transfusion machine. Don't forget that the commies in the military were the only ones who could really continue to do the same high level work. It's not like you can suddenly find new officers to replace your entire force. Military is one thing, politics and stealing state owned property during privatization is another.


No I chose international business, b2b business, and being an entrepreneur. I pointed out that back then people had to ally with the government if they wanted to further their careers. I am merely pointing out PiS is doing a great job raiding Soros NGOs.

The problem with that the horses end up coarse (as PF demonstrates).


While I'm sure that Dr Mengele would approve of your excuse, how about some proof?

Umm the mere fact that the same Polish generals, majors, etc that were in the army under PRL are still there now...


Not in Poland Harry (why aren't the mods banning this guy? Isn't Harry suspended for a few more days?) Better stick to UK, Germany, or any number of countries suffering from the Islamic invasion and multiculturalism. They embrace that kind of stuff there. Delph already had an experience trying to push his multiculturalism and promote questionable things- again his own words from back on Polandia. I never contacted his work about this, but this nonetheless shows how Poles feel about such things. Also, I don't believe there's any American felons on here, I certainly am not one hence why I can vote in the US as well.

And there goes the thread with the trolls... have fun guys, Happy 2nd day of Channakuh to the Jewish members.

but brate Dirke, I will only remind you that Jews refused to continue that false politically motivated farce about late arrival of Slavs (ie Sarmatians) in Europe and their political representatives openly speak about our antiquity. We live in era when Jews offering their hand to us Sarmats. At least, for sure, we shouldn`t spit on it, if not to accept it wholeheartedly.

Help spread Darwinism instead:

Normal everyday Jews and even the orthodox who reject Zionism aren't the problem, Zionists hollywood types holocaust industry and those pushing one thing for goys and another for israel/Jews are...

Let us be realistic. Western Europeans have every interest to negate us Slavs (ie Sarmatian), while Jews now, in era when western European power fading away and Slavs strengthen, really can see interest in it to support Slavs or at least to stop to work against us. Western Europeans will admit Slavic antiquity only when faced with total defeat. See, we should think in terms of interest. Why would we Slavs (ie Sarmatians) now insist in hostility on Jews. Because that suits to western Europe? Them? Again to them? So, let Jews have it. Let us talk to them. Peace for peace.

'Patronizing' as irritating as it may be, in Dirk's case is in fact making up for the fact that he was alienated for so long from Poland and now he tries desperately to confirm his Polish identity which he may subconsciously jugde to have been partially lost. There is a nice saying in Polish "'być świętszym od papieża'" of which I'm not sure Dirk knows, but which seems to describe perfectly his attitude of a neophyte. Plus his young age is a factor that partially justifies the patronizing tone of his opinions and thoughts on Poland.


Reality and facts cannot form opinions. Terms like 'harmful' or 'self-evident' are not facts. They are assesment of facts or judgement on facts

Without translation, my pea-brain reads that as "It was a holiday from the pope......" Polish proverbs are so vivid:) I'm not sure that Dirk's age is an excuse for some of the hate that he comes out with though.

So you claim you have absolutely no idea want it is all about and you need to be handed on a silver-plate. ? I have no time for your type soviet morons!!

I told you before I'm not gonna waste my time providing all relevant quotes, numbers, paragraphs and putting it all together here for you to see, just that you would spit on my effort and time with one of your no funny remarks or some other meaningless slogans you are full of.

Either way your opinions are as much valid as mine opinions. To call me or my opinions stupid just because you disagree with me is nothing less but a name calling. That is how this pointless exchange started. in the first place. So for you to turn up now draped in a business-like toga of seriousness is just a role-play. something you're not very good at.

Prove to me that that notion that voted in favor is not harmful to Polish interests and never can be used to financially or politically do harm to Poland's national interest. If you are so bold and full of it?

'more Catholic than the Pope'
Your Polish as deportable as I have though. It explain your inability to grasp what is actually going on in Poland.

@Ziemowit

Not patronizing, just pointing out that by law a homeless polish citizen who sleeps in a shelter and drinks cheap vodka all day long and pays no taxes as except for sales tax on vodka and cigs still has more say in our country's political system than any of the economic migrants/Brit expats who are residents and not polish citizens.

At the very least they could make an effort to learn polish fluently and become citizens if they wish to take a bigger role in our society instead of telling poles what they should or shouldn't do.

My first tattoo was of a polish eagle on my back. I got it on my 18th bday. So no I haven't suddenly found my 'polishness' I've travelled to and fro my whole life and am one of the few people here who can actually speak polish fluently instead of the Google translate garbage and butchered idioms

It's common with people who move abroad. There's one despicable idiot living in Gdańsk who preaches about the greatness of Brexit constantly, and his knowledge of Polish and Polish affairs is minimal.

My next tat will be of a polish hussar driving a pike through someone's eye.. im thinking either an arab looking dude hillary clinton or maybe tusk.

And of course I will patronize people who start it first... again I'm merely pointing out facts and rarely am I the one to start w personal attacks first as past conversations. Some people like the master baiter can't resist tho lol

Irony, dear, your tirade against me simply sounds as if you have just graduated from primary school :-)


Then to make you distance yourself from the bloody seriousness of the "Polish Eagle", here is a cartoon by a Polish artist who was born in Kraków, is Polish to the bone and has been living all his life in Poland. And he can laugh at Poland a lot for which he is very much admired by the Poles!

@Ziemowit
That's actually pretty funny. Doesn't rly matter though. The tens of thousands of Nov 11 marches and millions who support pis along with the cbos polls, our constitution, way of life, history, etc make me proud to be a Polish citizen and have a good government that listens to its people.

@Crow

Are you talking about actual ancient israeli Jews or the take buddhist/tengrist khazars who suddenly adopted judaism and hebrew language?
It's one thing to recognize our history, another to **** us over with migrants multicultural perversions etc . Putin and orthodoxy are leading the fight against the globalists

Talkin crap that what you are good at and that what I expected from you. Hence don't waste my time, next time you just notify me that you disagree with me - if you must.

The Constitution which makes it clear that everyone is to be treated equally?

According to one of Juncker's officials, Juncker is trying to talk to Morawiecki about the new laws and has said that if they still go through, Article 7 will be triggered. If the changes are postponed until January he says 'we will see'. In fact, I believe that the talks have failed and it's going ahead next week.

I'm pretty sure that it's the case.

Junkier or Junkers Flugzeug- und Motorenwerke AG can go to hell. Not a know drunk, shady dealer and Merkel's lab dog is gonna dictate internal legislation to Poland.

Yes, all Polish citizens are ideally to be treated equally. Naturally, it is up to the security apparatus, police, MFA, MIA, etc.to determine which groups or individuals are participating in actions or groups that pose a threat to the stability of Polish society and institutions.

Others include:

The Republic of Poland shall be the common good of all its citizens
The Nation shall exercise such power directly or through their representatives.
The financing of political parties shall be open to public inspection. - hence the raids on Soros' offices so MFA and the security apparatus can examine their documents to see if there is collusion against Polish institution.

Marriage, being a union of a man and a woman, as well as the family, motherhood and parenthood, shall be placed under the protection and care of the Republic of Poland - Thank goodness! No Adam and Steve in Poland... We're okay with civil unions, but the majority of Poles (source: CBOS) shows they're against gay marraige

Parents shall have the right to rear their children in accordance with their own convictions. Such upbringing shall respect the degree of maturity of a child as well as his freedom of conscience and belief and also his convictions. - also good, parents can raise their kids how they want - left, right, catholic, atheist, etc. Polish society embraces Catholic upbringing instead of constantly undermining our religion and traditions like the Zionist owned media and government along with their far left commie allies are attempting to do in the west

If, no later than on the day of vote, he has attained 18 years of age, Polish citizen shall have the right to participate in a referendum and the right to vote for the President of the Republic of Poland as well as representatives to the Sejm and Senate and organs of local government. -- means EU residents who aren't citizens cannot participate in such elections

Here's my favorite
Loyalty to the Republic of Poland, as well as concern for the common good, shall be the duty of every Polish citizen.

The present proceedings are the result of a vote by Poland's fellow member states, not the dictates of a single individual.