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2014-2020 EU Cohesion funds for Poland


PennBoy 76 | 2,437
17 Nov 2012  #1
With Europe split in two between those who wants budget cuts and those who oppose them (poorer nations) how much is Poland expected to get for the 2014-20 time period? And has Poland bin given all the funds allocated to her up until now? In one article I read that of all the money meant for Poland during the first year in which Poland received them (2007) only some 14% or so was given! Because the necessary changes weren't done in time to receive them. In the following year Poland already received some 40% of the funds assigned to her. Does the money from the previous years which are not used up roll over into the next year or is it lost?
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
17 Nov 2012  #2
how much is Poland expected to get for the 2014-20 time period?

Somewhere between 70-80 billion Euro, it seems. Poland wants up to 100 billion, but it's certain that the richer countries will tell Poland to go **** herself.
Richfilth 6 | 415
17 Nov 2012  #3
Most of the money gets lost; sucked back into the EU vacuum, and the main reason for Poland not receiving it is Poland itself. For every euro Poland receives, it has to spend an equivalent amount from its own budget (either 1:1, or a pre-determined ratio). A good example is the 5.5bn euros earmarked for rail infrastructure investment, of which only 303m was used. This may be due to mismanagement, corruption or downright fecklessness, but it will make it very hard for the "new ascension" states to defend their access to almost 15 billion euros of structural funds if they simply can't spend it.

For more info:

reuters.com/article/2012/06/21/us-europe-trains-idUSBRE85K0F620120621
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
17 Nov 2012  #4
A good example is the 5.5bn euros earmarked for rail infrastructure investment, of which only 303m was used. This may be due to mismanagement, corruption or downright fecklessness

Or if you want another scenario - it's down to the Government not supporting rail on purpose to finally break the unions and their stranglehold over the railways for good.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
17 Nov 2012  #5
how much is Poland expected to get for the 2014-20 time period?

It is expected to be 80 Billion Euros

With Europe split in two between those who wants budget cuts and those who oppose them (poorer nations)

I read that it was countries like France and germany that didn't want to give so much this time.

wbj.pl/article-58942-poland-to-lose-out-in-next-eu-budget.html - Not poor countries.

And has Poland bin given all the funds allocated to her up until now?

Most of it, yes.

In one article I read that of all the money meant for Poland during the first year in which Poland received them (2007) only some 14% or so was given! Because the necessary changes weren't done in time to receive them. In the following year Poland already received some 40% of the funds assigned to her. Does the money from the previous years which are not used up roll over into the next year or is it lost?

I never heard that.
Post a link and I'll take a look.
Good thread!

The amount of European input in the implementation of National Strategic Reference Framework between 2007-2013 is 67.3 billion EUR which makes Poland the biggest beneficiary of the European Funds.

funduszeeuropejskie.gov.pl/english/Strony/European_Funds.aspx]

A good example is the 5.5bn euros earmarked for rail infrastructure investment, of which only 303m was used. This may be due to mismanagement, corruption or downright fecklessness, but it will make it very hard for the "new ascension" states to defend their access to almost 15 billion euros of structural funds if they simply can't spend it.

I know very little about Poland's railways,

Edit*
Good man delphiandomine, have you a link to read about Polish railways?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
17 Nov 2012  #6
I wonder in how many other countries, the leaders say "our future dpepends on how much money other countries will give us". Somalia ?
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
17 Nov 2012  #7
I imagine the same thing is being repeated in many other EU countries as we speak, including France.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
17 Nov 2012  #8
the leaders say "our future dpepends on how much money other countries will give us"

I don't see it like that at all.

The E.U., must be the most divided place countrywise on the planet.
Put a circle over any other part of the globe and you won't see so many small countries.

It's in all of our interests to cooperate, it's a long term strategy that will keep us up there with the rest.

Germany, one of the biggest contributes, will only benefit unless we break apart and countries won't pay the bill.

And it's not as if anyone is just given money, it's lent, with a lot of changes, for the benefit of all.
OP PennBoy 76 | 2,437
18 Nov 2012  #9
Most of the money gets lost; sucked back into the EU vacuum, and the main reason for Poland not receiving it is Poland itself. For every euro Poland receives, it has to spend an equivalent amount from its own budget (either 1:1, or a pre-determined ratio). A good example is the 5.5bn euros earmarked for rail infrastructure investment, of which only 303m was used.

That's what I wanted to know so in reality Poland will not get anywhere near the 68 billion euros for the 2007-2013 period. Hopefully they've learned by now to keep up with the deadlines.

I never heard that. Post a link and I'll take a look. Good thread!

It was in Wprost magazine, they wont let you access the archives unless you subscribe. All it said was that during the first year 2007, Poland was slow to prepare and do all the necessary things to utilize on the funds, and got some 14-16%. Next year 40%, so I'm assuming that by now (2012) they're pretty much getting all of it. I did find a new link from October 2012, as of then Poland had used up 78.5% of the EU funds allocated to her for 2007-2013 years. And that in the 2014-2020 we should expect 80 billion Euros, which should be mostly spent on infrastructure.

dzienniknowy.pl/blog/pokaz/1301.dhtml

Poland's prime minister said Friday was the happiest day of his life after it was announced the country would receive 105.8 billion euros over seven years from the new EU budget.

thenews.pl/1/12/Artykul/126783,Poland-to-receive-bigger-slice-of-smaller-EU-cake
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
11 Feb 2013  #10
was the happiest day of his life

Mine would be if this clown kicked the bucket.
OP PennBoy 76 | 2,437
11 Feb 2013  #11
I dont like Tusk myself but it's nice Poland is getting this money. It never got any Marshal Plan **** even former Nazi Germany did.


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