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British schoolboys very sensibly dealt with by the Poland's authorities after theft in Auschwitz


rozumiemnic 8 | 3,845
31 Dec 2015 #31
yes agree with tictactoe, their perceived class is immaterial really....
dolnoslask
31 Dec 2015 #32
" making money out of such a dreadful crime scene" sad really , not sure what Poland could do without international scrutiny and all the possible disagreements that would arise,
Tictactoe
31 Dec 2015 #33
You simply make a monument in remembrance to those who walked there and never left.
OP Dougpol1 32 | 3,296
31 Dec 2015 #34
one doesnt become one of the "moneyed" class by being dim witted.

It's called inheritance - and yes, a lot of the British aristo are dim-witted. I am shocked that it is news to you :)

did you see anything up your end.

It's pretty dark as far as I can see. But, unlike Kaczynski, I don't think the sun shines up my arse :)))

It should be torn down

Palpable nonsense. Ask my father in law and others whose nearest and dearest died there.

The most disrespectful post of the year award. Congratulations.
pweeg
31 Dec 2015 #35
but by the time this comes to trial, they will be adults, and therefore they will have criminal records.

It doesn't work like that,it's your age when you committed the crime that matters.
Asdasdasdas
1 Jan 2016 #36
That's sooo weird, why would you even take anything from this camp? There is no signle valuable thing.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,266
1 Jan 2016 #37
Whoever daddy is - money wont help here, and the families are obviously stupid to go back on the acceptance of a caution and fine.

Yes, it looks like they've been given pretty terrible advice. The only thing I can think of is that someone in the UK media has threatened the family with publishing the judgement, and being forever known as "the boys that stole from Auschwitz" will do them no favours.

Quite what they hope to achieve by appalling against this is beyond me.
Tictactoe
1 Jan 2016 #38
@Dougpol. Does your ignorance of life make you believe you are the only person with people near and dear who suffered there.

I am actually surprised you have the ability to ASK them. The ones who I knew, my farther in-law who was a boy when captured died in the early 2001 in England at 79 yrs old. All his nearest and dearest do think it should be torn down, including my wife.

Here is one for you, he would when asked always say, " leave it be and forget about it now " he wanted to move with his live and not wallow in the past, and he did too.

Maybe you think a Disneyland of death is a fitting tribute to all the women men and children who died there, I don't and norr does my wife and her siblings.
Roger5 1 | 1,458
1 Jan 2016 #39
I haven't been to Auschwitz, but I have been to Majdanek, and I wouldn't describe it as a Disneyland. It was disgusting, sickening and heart-breaking, and put me in a state of depression for a day or two. This is what it's all about, or should be. Lest we forget. Your family members have every right to their opinion, but I believe these places should be kept, at least in part, so that future generations at least have the opportunity to learn from the mistakes of others.
smurf 39 | 1,981
1 Jan 2016 #40
I think this is a bit stupid. Like have you seen the stuff they stole?

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Like, are people really gonna lose sleep over some crap like that?
Sure if it was actual personal items with names, dates, etc I'd understand, but shards of glass, 2 buttons and a hair clip? Seriously?
I think it's an over reaction so people will stop doing it.
The problem being it won't stop people coz most people who are going to be tempted to steal crap like this don't read/watch the news.
Tictactoe
1 Jan 2016 #41
Roger, I and my wife and her siblings just believe that a memorial of peace is much better than a Disneyland of death.

There are better ways and as for punishing two school boys for stealing the Polish government are no better. Many people are killed by mass murderers but they don't have tour's of the crime scene, what is the point.

Each to there own, my wife believes it's a monument to hate and nothing more and by some peoples comments about it to others here it seems to still breeds ignorance and hate.
OP Dougpol1 32 | 3,296
1 Jan 2016 #42
Does your ignorance of life make you believe you are the only person with people near and dear who suffered there.

Although I might have worded my post a little more politely, your statement got me riled. And my in-laws' father didn't live to be 90 or whatever, so congratulations to yours.......... The whole family would have ended up there and dead if the local station master hadn't tipped them off so they could flee.

We have such camps to remind us that we are all the same.
That is why we rightly have the United Nations High Commission for Refugees 1951 Act, that refugees, once they land on this continent, can't be sent back to a war zone. Poles of all people would do well to remember that.

And how does my opinion reflect on your consideration of "My ignorance of life"? You posted an outlandish opinion, albeit often voiced, about a World Heritage site, which is sacrosanct for millions, whether they be Jews, Poles, Germans, Roma etc etc etc etc............................... That's nothing to do with "looking back." That is that generations' lost ones, and you can be sure that Auschwitz will stand as a warning for our age. The same ethnic cleansing happened in Rwanda, Darfur, and Bosnia, and you think that Auschwitz should be demolished?

To be replaced by what? Smart Krakow dormitory town housing developments. Maybe discos?

I refer you to my earlier post. I think you have an ulterior motive here. At the very least you sound like an apologist for these boys' actions.

Many people are killed by mass murderers but they don't have tour's of the crime scene, what is the point.

I totally agee, when schoolchildren go on school curriculum tours. In very bad taste, and the children should not be exposed to such. Adults only.
Chemikiem 6 | 2,154
1 Jan 2016 #43
It doesn't work like that,it's your age when you committed the crime that matters.

Yes, I'm sure you're right, hadn't thought about that.

100% agree Roger.
I have been to both camps mentioned, and yes, they are depressing and very upsetting, but it's important that people don't forget these atrocities.
pawian 170 | 11,326
18 Feb 2020 #44
Like, are people really gonna lose sleep over some crap like that?

Some youth did much worse things in Auschwitz or Majdanek.

dw.com/en/israeli-teen-desecrates-majdanek-death-camp-while-on-school-trip/a-45070048.

nypost.com/2018/03/22/israeli-man-caught-urinating-on-auschwitz-memorial/


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