How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland.

I would like to remaind you, that it was Argentina who has attacked Falklands, not the UK.

You mean invaded the Falklands. It was the British under Margaret Thatcher who protected the citizens of the Falklands who choose to be British.

Poland was actually one of the members​ of Resolution 502 who abstained in the vote requesting Argentina to withdraw immediately.

they were soldiers, doing the duty they had voluntarily signed up for.

100%. Thank God and Svetovid for that. Good God knows that we Serbians contributed to existence of independent Polish state and by that, this forum, too, even, I say even, if this very forum right now, maybe even isn`t on Polish soil. Still, it is guided by libertarian Polish spirit of Sarmatism. I sense that. We Serbs feel it and, when we are at percents, we Serbians are 300% Polish. We just keep using Serbian ethnic name. Disregard that formality, please. For, who can tell what is older, the chicken or the egg.

Before there were Serbs there were Sorbs (akaWrednsand Lusatians), Ponad's next-door neighbour belonging to the Westslavonic group. When some of them moved to the south, they mangled the language, became south Slavs and adopted many Turkish customs. Polish and Sorbish are mutually intelligible, Polish and Serbian are not.

youtube.com/watch?v=0Ujs8VOSBmE

dr. Vojislav Šešelj (youngest Phd in history of Yugoslavia) leader of Serbian Radical Party about Slavic people, Germany, EU.

Please stick to the topic

No matter who attacked whom first, death remains the ultimate sacrifice and can never be either qualified or quantified in terms of loss:-)

Both ethoses call themselves Serbs. Sorbs is foreign given designation, same as Wend.


dialects are question for itself. People from parts of Serbia and Croatia better understand each others in comparison to other regions of those countries.


No. Lusatians believe that they came from South and separated directly from Southern Serbs and, then ancestors of today`s Poles separated and spread more eastern and, as genetic science confirms, ancestors of today`s Russians separated from Polish ancestors and moved even more eastward. It corresponds with theory that all today existing Slavs re-populated Europe from Balkan Ice age refugium (2/3 of population, while 1/3 emerged from Crimean Ice age refugium), after Ice age was finished.

You heard for Polish legends about Polish Sarmatian origin? See?


we resisted, we survived.


ok. Its that about dialects.

Why are we still talking about Serbs ??

You are not familiar with this form of mental disorder spiritus? Neither was i.

We entering into the genesis.

Sky news carried out a survey yesterday on the question of whether EU citizens currently living in the UK should have the right to remain in the country after BREXIT.

55% of respondents answered "no".

I find that rather sad and reinforces my belief that many people in the UK do not like Poles living here

UK has so many Non-Europeans at this point it is difficult to wage one specific correlation. If I was a Non-Native European living in the UK: I would vote NO. Poles are an economical threat to Native Brits and a cultural threat to ethnics. 52% is rather tame

Sorry but I don't understand your point (haven't had my coffee yet though). The question of non-Europeans was not part of the survey so isn't is safe to assume that "EU citizens" relates to Eastern Europeans and as Poles form the largest part of the group then Poles are the ones people have in mind ?

My point is UK is multicultural = fractured society. It could very well just be a bunch of bitter ethnics voting against "more Europeans"

Furthermore - how long til the millions of "German"-Syrians are in possession of EU passports?

Just another sign of why Nationalism is the answer. Return home Poles and let every nation clean up its backyard

Yeah, there's pretty much no example of a multicultural society that isn't constant low grade ideological warfare of each group against all the others (with occasional alliances - politics makes strange bedfellows as it were).

The US doesn't count since until the 1970s immigrants were expected to assimilate in language, social practices etc (or to stay out of the mainstream and not bother other people like the Amish and Orthodox Jews).

Multiculturalism also tends to put suffocating restrictions on the individual's educational and occupational and marriage options. Who wants that sh1t?

The one and only and single perk that multiculturalism brings are increased dining options (and maybe live music options). No one can point to any other particular benefit....

"No one can point to any other particular benefit"

Debate long enough and they bring up inbreeding and project it onto people that choose to remain within their own race.

It truly is comical how after multiple millenium worth of success - our way of life is NOW not sufficient. So refreshing to see this questioning now mainstream.

For once you've typed something one can agree with. There used to be many ethnic neighbourhoods in the US (Little Italy, Polish Town, Greek Town, etc.) which added a touch of colour and variety to WASP-ified "keep up with the Joneses" America. To this day, ethnic festivals attract throngs of people of various national backgrounds. The main thing is that none of those ethnic groups expected preferntial treatment, let alone trying to impose their cultural or religious values on the rest of the population.

Preferential? More the opposite: many of them were treated like sh*t the moment they set foot on Ellis Island. One of the reasons why they chose to live in ethnic ghettos just like the Turks in Europe for example.

I think you're right, sad as it is. There's a lot of low level racism aimed at them, including a friend of mine who is always met with surprise when people discover that she's Polish and working in a pretty high powered job.

I sometimes wonder if the US model of immigration from the 1950's to the 1970's was the model for multiculturism that many of our leaders have aspired to. As some of you rightly point out this is like comparing apples and oranges as US immigrants, by and large, integrated into the American way of life.


I've written letters to my local paper about this. The Poles in the UK have often found themselves as the lightning rod of prejudice, racism and nationalistic views probably because Poles are white, European and Christian so criticising them can't "really" be classed as racism........

UKIP's campaign was largely based on highlighting how many Eastern Europeans (Poles) were here in the UK and I'd even go as far as to say that Brexit came about as a result of many people's views on Poles in the UK.

Yes, I'd also say that it was because they were very visible. I remember the first wave, and it was ordinary for them to come and fix things for you and ask for a fair price for the work done, rather than trying to screw you over. That led to huge resentment among the working classes who were earning a good lifestyle out of conning people, and obviously the views then got passed on to others in the family.

My friend's dad owns a fish factory in Scotland, and he told me about how the "Eastern Europeans" were a blessing for his company. He was struggling to find people to work, but they came, worked hard and set a great example for the locals. The problem was that the locals were deeply unhappy about having to work harder, and they already resented the fact that they were working in what is/was considered a very low class job. End result? Racism towards the foreigners.

I'm certain it's the same story up and down the country, and when you add in the less desirable visible Polish traits such as drinking outside shops and living cheaply to save money, it's easy to see how they acted as a lightning rod, just as you've said.

I'm fairly sure there were at least some votes for Brexit based on the mistaken belief that it would get rid of all the "foreigners".

The predicted loss of Conservative seats in Parliament and the resignation of PM May will be a real game changer, won't it!
Does this adumbrate a Corbyn victory or will it have to go through the courts first as it does here in the States?

She's not resigning though Lyzko. She trotted off to see Queenie today to 'ask permission' to form a government and Queenie will give her the all clear - she always does. 'Yes of course since you've asked so nicely. Jolly good show. Pity about losing the majority. What a fearful nuisance for you dear. But never mind. Now what about a nice cup of tea?' Apparently the Democratic Unionist Party of all people from Northern Ireland are going to help out and give the Conservatives the back-up they need. They've done it before at various times. It's all beyond my simple logic but highly entertaining.

That was just on the news here in the USA and went into a surprisingly amount of detail about it along with how the pound is plunging.

The Zloty has fallen also.
Britain is slowly crumbling as I have posted here many times.
Sharia law next ?

Ah no, they'll be grand. The Bulldog spirit you know. Times of adversity bring out the best in them, as with many of us. That's human nature.

Glad to see May's not caving! There's more than a wee bit of ol' Maggie in her, knew it practically all along:-) Corbyn?? Too much of a leftie even for me:-)

lol

It does not look that hard Brexit promised by May will go ahead......They will drag it now for ever as it appears that when reality hit less and less people want it.

Pound Sterling falling