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How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland.


Jaskier
23 Oct 2018  #1,081
I know Poles who can't speak English or speak it very poorly. Many are cheating for benefits, plenty are in jails etc.. Somehow I don't want to be judged by their behaviour and I would trash any British, Indian equivalent of Dirk Digger if he posted the same rubbish. I work alongside white and black British, Indian and Chinese , Muslim, Catholic etc . I judge them only by their personality, the same way as I want to be judged.

I live next to Birmingham, been there at night and during the day, plenty of Muslims and black ppl but, again, why should it matter ?
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,335
23 Oct 2018  #1,082
Because imo theres too many of them and they are changing not only the demographics but the society. They are the ones overwhelmingly responsible for terrorism and child grooming. And the brits coddle them by even giving them sharia courts and letting saudi build.mega mosques and send over radical imams. A guy lile choudry can go around recruiting people for isis, al nusra etc and organize marches promoting sharia law for uk and chanting things like uk go to hell, but when robinson cites a bbc report about a child grooming gang hes put in jail without even a proper trial and groups like national action are banned, they refuse entry for conservative speakers but of course banning choudrys group would be racist, islamaphobic and they can go about promoting sharia law in public, recruiting jihadis etc

Uk made its bed now they must sleep in jt. just happy that poland hasnt fallen for this madness. Brits invited them in by the boatload, give them tons of benefits amd they multiply like rabbits on ecstacy to the point where brits are now a minority in their own capital
Jaskier
23 Oct 2018  #1,083
So you have a problem with politicians and the system? Because they are responsible for those policies. I will tell you how I see it :

Every scrounger is bad and the government should make what's in their power to stop them no matter who they are. You on the other hand are selective on it. When it's you pushing the bordrs it' s ok, you are being street smart and so on, if it's prosecuting someone for being critical of the Catholicism it's ok but otherwise it's oh so bad.

So either complain about the system and then include everyone abusing it ( including white, Chatolic Polish man) or admit that it's simply their race that bothers you.
Dougpol1 30 | 2,830
23 Oct 2018  #1,084
Ouch.
The Polishforums political post of the month award goes to....Jaskier.
That will shut Dirk up - for a minute or two, for the lad has no gumption to speak of.
Miloslaw 6 | 1,795
23 Oct 2018  #1,085
@Jaskier
Dirk is just a wind up merchant.....on previous posts I saw that you were being convinced by him.
Ignore his vile posts,he's just a kid playing stupid,dangeous games.....
What you know and.see of The UK is the truth.
I was born here,to Polish parents,and have lived here for most of my life.
Your view of Britain,through your own eyes is correct.
Dirk has a Polish American view.....I have followed and studied this strange breed for many years and some of them are very strange indeed......
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,335
23 Oct 2018  #1,086
Yes i am a polam. Ive also been to uk almost a dozen times. If i had purple skin or north korean or never set foot in uk it wouldnt change the FACTS about uk - sharia courts, cops cant protect themselves let alone citizens, white brits are a minority in tjeir own capital, government is too scared to investigate and prosecute paki rape squads i.e. rotterham scandal, etc...

But maybe you just dont like it when people point put FACTS...
Miloslaw 6 | 1,795
24 Oct 2018  #1,087
I am not disputing your "Facts",just that you focus on them so much as if to make out it is the norm in The UK,which of course it isn't.

If I focused on the bad suburbs of your home city and made out that was "Normal" America,it would be the same thing.

There is one crucial difference though,areas like Tower Hamlets and Luton may not be very pleasant,but they are not dangerous.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,664
24 Oct 2018  #1,088
well said Milo. I am sure I am not alone in being sick of Dirk banging on about Muslims in the UK. No there are not 'Sharia courts' that over-ride the law of the land. No there are not 'no go' areas. Yes , police are armed. FFS they carry sub machine guns these days. YOu would have to be blind, stupid or to not have been in the UK for years, to have not noticed. it is mostly in response to whatever shite America has stirred up worldwide, as usual.

As you say, Tower Hamlets , whatever it is like, has none of the danger of pitsville suburban America, and Dirk knows it. That is why he cant stay away from the place.

He is a tool. and an uneducated ignorant one , at that.

I mean, personally I joined this forum to chat to others about Poland, you know, culture, language, maybe cuisine. Not to listen to idiots like Dirk going on about Muslims in the UK. I don't know why he doesn't simply feck orf to stormfront.com or similar.

I have no idea why the owners of this site tolerate the semi literate rantings of someone who is clearly unbalanced. <shrugs>

he is too thick to grasp what has been pointed out to him , the UK is a post colonial society, and thus has its own hangover from this. This is also why Dirk speaks English, after a fashion.

Poland has never had colonies, therefore would never have the same issues. I have no idea why he thinks it might.
Some people are thick as pig shite.
Ziemowit 12 | 3,371
24 Oct 2018  #1,089
I have no idea why every single thread becomes about Muslims in Britain, Germany and Sweden

I also have no idea why every thread turns into a rant about Muslims in UK, Sweden , Germany.

Please, do not confuse one's obsessions with one's education. A person may have a high-quality education and yet may be obsessed with something which has nothing to do with their education. Likewise, an obsession may touch an uneducated person, too. The problem is purely medical in nature rather than educational.

In practice, this forum seems to be bound to have two clown at the same time. Last time, they were British clowns, this time they are American ones.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,664
24 Oct 2018  #1,090
The problem is purely medical in nature rather than educational.

or both, possibly...
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,681
24 Oct 2018  #1,091
I stand by my former assessment that Dirk is scared, scared to death about the many changes of this world. I tried for awhile to assure him that his worst nightmares are unfounded...but it seems he doesn't want to be assured...he wallows in his fears...nothing a statistic can prove will really assuage his deep fears. He just keeps repeating them.

In that he is a symptom of these times...not sick or necessarily un-educated...but something all our countries have to face.

How do you assuage these often irrational fears of these modern times and our future?
johnny reb 16 | 3,433
24 Oct 2018  #1,092
this time they are American ones.

At least we stay half ass ON - Topic not to mention put some spice into dull debates.
I think that you just don't like your authoritative European Intelligence challenged by those pompous Americans.
How dare them.
Jaskier
24 Oct 2018  #1,093
No, we just don't like being bored to death.

As to the staying on topic...don't make me laugh
johnny reb 16 | 3,433
24 Oct 2018  #1,094
Remember that this is an American Forum shared for all to enjoy.
About Poland, the Polish and American/Poles and current events pertaining to.
The Brits, Scottish, Germans and Irish think that they have seniority over the Pole/Americans and Americans.
You hammer Dirk for being "unbalanced" yet he knows more about Poland then most of you do.

Agreed Roz.

Then start threads or stick to old threads on these subjects if that is what floats your boat.
If someone else replies to a thread that you are not interested in then steer clear of it instead of jumping in with your personal character attacks and rude remarks or expect to get the same in return.

Respond to the Post, not the Poster and stay on topic.
Problem solved.
Tacitus 2 | 817
24 Oct 2018  #1,095
And he even said this almost one year after the referendum.... .

This picture tells us all we need to know about British preparedness for Brexit.

static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2017/07/17/16/david-davis.jpg?w968h681
Braveheart16 16 | 121
24 Oct 2018  #1,096
johnny reb....

Remember that this is an American Forum shared for all to enjoy.

I actually thought the forum was for people living in Poland but if people can access it from different countries then that is fine...Is there a forum for people living in Poland....I am thinking of the AngloInfo business which provides information such as business set ups, selling/ buying property or personal items, advertising local events, forum for sharing ideas/information on living in a particular country, general information for anyone living or arriving in a particular country which helps them to settle in etc...

Thanks.....
Miloslaw 6 | 1,795
24 Oct 2018  #1,097
Remember that this is an American Forum shared for all to enjoy.

You imply that the rest of us in The Polish Diaspora are somehow less important than Polish Americans on the basis that this forum was formed and is hosted in America.

Why is it called The Polish Forum then?
If you are right,and I don't think you are,this should be renamed The Polish American Forum.
But I don't think that the creators of this website had that intention.
This forum is for all of the Polish Diaspora and for all that have an interest in it.
spiritus 67 | 663
25 Oct 2018  #1,098
Can you stop this BS? I live in UK and one, I don't recognise the UK you describe. .

I was born in the UK and still live here. What Dirk is saying is NOT BS although I will admit it depends on where you live. People who live in rural areas quite possibly have no idea what it's like to live in many English towns and cities. Their liberal, left wing views remain unchallenged because they see everything through rose coloured spectacles.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,681
25 Oct 2018  #1,099
I would rather say there exists two kind of glasses...and the liberal city folk just uses a different one than the rural folks...doesn't mean one is better than the other. Just that two groups of peeple have different kinds of viewpoints, wants and needs.

A "hipster" would not feel at home between "rednecks" and the other way around...

Thing is that the liberal mega cities are growing and winning, they get all the young people and generate the most wealth...so it's to expect that their views will count more. I don't know how to change that development.
Spike31 2 | 860
26 Oct 2018  #1,100
I know how. Change a media bias and start promoting the real men instead of skinny jeans hipster soy boys. Problem solved. No need to thank me :-)
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,681
26 Oct 2018  #1,101
I don't believe the "real men" are very appealing to the liberal city people....one of the reasons why the young people pack their bags and leave their rural villages.

The demographics show this movement very clearly. Not only immigrants go to the big cities, young rural folks to. It's called "urbanization".

I doubt any changed media bias will change that, it's a matter of "voting with their feet"!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization

...Urbanization is not merely a modern phenomenon, but a rapid and historic transformation of human social roots on a global scale, whereby predominantly rural culture is being rapidly replaced by predominantly urban culture. ...

It doesn't look good for the future of the "real men"....
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
26 Oct 2018  #1,102
I don't believe the "real men" are very appealing to the liberal city people

Exactly. Look at how Eastern Poland depopulated after 2004, and you can clearly see that there's no future for "real men". They all left as soon as they could, because there was nothing there for them. Drinking beer outside shops in the UK was clearly preferable to drinking beer outside shops in rural Poland, so it's obvious which culture they really prefer.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,681
26 Oct 2018  #1,103
It's in East Germany the same...whole villages and even small towns deserted with only a few "real men" left...no joke!
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
26 Oct 2018  #1,104
Oh, I know. I've spent quite a bit of time around Brandenburg and Saxony, and you can see how empty many of those villages and towns are. Meanwhile, Leipzig, Berlin and Dresden are booming - so what does that say about "real men" and their actual preferences?
Spike31 2 | 860
26 Oct 2018  #1,105
The demographics show this movement very clearly. Not only immigrants go to the big cities, young rural folks to. It's called "urbanization".

Yes, and the middle aged and old white and rich folks are moving out from the big cities, like London, to a rural areas. It is very visible here in the UK.

I doubt any changed media bias will change that, it's a matter of "voting with their feet"!

People are more influenced by mass media and a film and music industry than you may think. The impulse to moving your feet comes from your brain. Unless you're an octopus that is :-)
Miloslaw 6 | 1,795
26 Oct 2018  #1,106
You are right,British people have been moving out of London for many years now.
Besides my wife and I,only my son and his family remain in London,my daughter,brothers, sisters,nephews,nieces,uncles and aunts,have all moved out.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
26 Oct 2018  #1,107
Yes, and the middle aged and old white and rich folks are moving out from the big cities, like London, to a rural areas. It is very visible here in the UK.

Taking their urban mentality with them. The same thing is visible in Poland, where villages on the edge of metro areas are now seeing astonishing population booms.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,664
28 Oct 2018  #1,108
yes here in Wales there are heaps of English white folk from London. .(and .even a few black ones)The funny thing is, they complain about 'the immigrants' that they had to run away from, refuse to learn Welsh in a very sneery way, and don't see the irony of their position....

Mind you I shouldn't complain being a white folk from London myself..(at least I went to Welsh classes)
MoOli 9 | 484
30 Oct 2018  #1,109
Yes, and the middle aged and old white and rich folks are moving out from the big cities

I know some young and over 65 Indian origin folks also.
What is your definition of rich? net worth amount?
Dougpol1 30 | 2,830
30 Oct 2018  #1,110
The funny thing is, they complain about 'the immigrants' that they had to run away from

If by "they" you were referring to Asians, Poles etc then you would have a point. This adequately describes the Poles' ironically narrow view of the world more than the British.

They (Poles and Asians) refer to each others' communities in this way. "All those dirty immigrants........."


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