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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 22


jon357  73 | 24469
10 Jun 2025   #1021
We have no problem with IMMMIGRATION. We have a problem with ILLEGAL ALIENS.

We aren't talking about either immigration, legal or otherwise.

Haven't you been following the thread, or are you just trying to trash it?
Novichok  6 | 9899
10 Jun 2025   #1022
We aren't talking about either immigration,

Yes, we are...I can tell from the word "immigration" in your post:

A couple of people who have a thing about immigration got the wrong end of the stick.

So ... one more time...Invasion by illegal foreign human garbage nobody wants IS NOT IMMIGRATION!!!
Bobko  28 | 2402
10 Jun 2025   #1023
I never heard about no Africans being sent to the front, when they thought they were gonna make shampoo instead.

I had heard about guys that had signed up for service in the Russian army, that was supposedly going to be in the "rear". These guys clearly had not heard that we had sent the crew of the aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov" as infantry to the front.

When these guys realized they are gonna have to fight, or at a minimum dig trenches while under drone and artillery assault - they typically decided to challenge the legality of the contracts they signed. This ended about as well as you can imagine.

The only guys that got out where the ones that Modi personally asked Putin to let go.

The ladies from Uganda and Eritrea that are building drones are a different story. I'm a big fan of them. More of them please.
Miloslaw  24 | 5597
10 Jun 2025   #1024
Russian ar$e lickers...... Ukraine is winning this war......


Miloslaw  24 | 5597
10 Jun 2025   #1025
Russian ar$e lickers need to get real.......

Russia is losing this war......


Miloslaw  24 | 5597
10 Jun 2025   #1026
This is the killer video that tells you that Russia is losing this war......


johnny reb  49 | 8073
10 Jun 2025   #1027
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said Russia makes in 3 months what NATO produces in a year.
He called for a "quantum leap" in how Europe defends itself.
NATO is seeking to boost weapons production but has struggled to boost stockpiles while arming Ukraine.
Miloslaw  24 | 5597
10 Jun 2025   #1028
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said Russia makes in 3 months what NATO produces in a year.
He called for a "quantum leap" in how Europe defends itself.
NATO is seeking to boost weapons production but has struggled to boost stockpiles while arming Ukraine.

So what? Ukraine is still winning the war!
amiga500  5 | 1636
10 Jun 2025   #1029
@Miloslaw
You're completely nuts!!
Novichok  6 | 9899
11 Jun 2025   #1030
Ex-Ukraine PM predicts Zelensky will flee country
The US has supposedly already given the "go-ahead" to remove the Ukrainian leader, according to Nikolay Azarov


Hey, Nikolay, you are lying...

Milo says U is winning so why would Z run?

They will be erecting monuments in every park and square in Ukraine after Russia signs the surrender docs and he wants to present...
Novichok  6 | 9899
11 Jun 2025   #1031
The West prevented Ukraine from reaching peace in 2022 - top Russian negotiator
The US and UK pressured Kiev to abandon talks with Moscow three years ago, Vladimir Medinsky has said


Children and retards...It's really that simple...

The Ukraine conflict, now dragging on for more than three years, could have ended within a week if Kiev had not listened to its Western backers, top Russian negotiator and presidential aide Vladimir Medinsky has said.

That would have ended the flow of US money and weapons, too.

Money can be stolen, the weapons can be sold so who the fvck needs peace...
PolAmKrakow  2 | 980
11 Jun 2025   #1032
The US preparing to cut support to Ukraine in the 2026 budget coming out of the Pentagon. Taking this money and using it on the US military. Go figure, spend the money on your own needs? Thats just down right crazy according to leftist and globalists. In other news, the leftist medis is reporting the US diverted 10K missiles from Ukraine. But they are not reporting that they were diverted to protect US troops in the middle east. Funny how that information just gets pushed aside when it doesnt fit the narrative.
Alien  28 | 7061
11 Jun 2025   #1033
The US preparing to cut support to Ukraine in the 2026 budget coming out of the Pentagon

Maybe then this war will finally end. Everything is in russia's hands.
johnny reb  49 | 8073
11 Jun 2025   #1034
@PolAm
That's because the Left is incapable of debating/dealing with the Facts so they live in a world of denial
Teflon Trump keeps right on gob smacking them in the face day after day with reality and could give a shlt about their meltdowns.
Just like Cali right now being shown who runs this country.
After a summer of martial law being enforced in San Diego and L.A. the Woke and the Illegal Wet Backs may just get what "Go Home" means in English.
Way Way over due.
Its not "Drill Baby Drill" anymore, Its "Deport - Deport - Deport" !
cms neuf  2 | 2128
11 Jun 2025   #1035
We know - Golden Cow has been saying for months there will be no more money - especially now he needs it to attack American people

But its June, there has been no collapse, Ukraine is still standing and the NNs are still 6km from Pokrovsk and still haven't taken a single town

Who cares about some Boris bullshit from 2022 which is an obvious lie. North Nigeria is refusing the US ceasefire conditions today, in 3025, because they think they can get more out of TACO
jon357  73 | 24469
11 Jun 2025   #1036
North Nigeria is refusing the US ceasefire conditions today, in 3025, because they think they can get more out of TACO

They're taking advantage of the weak administration across the Atlantic.

The destruction of those orc aircraft without the Seppos having the slightest clue shows that their role isn't as important as some here like to pretend.
mafketis  41 | 11534
11 Jun 2025   #1037
The US preparing to cut support to Ukraine

Trump failed. Partly because TACO and partly because he's intellectually uncurious and _still_ doesn't understand russian motivation. He's dumb enough to think that an offer of money would motivate russia to peace.

Unfortunately the MAGA rank and file, coopted by russia and its proxies like Cucker Tarlson, blame Ukraine for not surrendering...

Weak men like Trump are unable to stand up to bullies.... and Ukraine pays the price.
jon357  73 | 24469
11 Jun 2025   #1038
A very good article here.

"I don't think I appreciate before my captivity just how much the Russian penal system reflects the values and methods of the Russian world," he said of his ordeal. "It's not an exception. It reflects the fundamental view of humans as disposable material. If you 'behave', you might be treated OK, but you must obey. There is no agency. Even the guards said the same about their civilian lives.

"That's a pretty good idea of what Russia wants to bring to Ukraine."

theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/11/ukrainian-held-by-russia-describes-torture-sinister-threats-and-kafkaesque-court-process

It beggars belief that some outside r*SSia, including several posters here, are taken in by their lies.
johnny reb  49 | 8073
11 Jun 2025   #1039
theguardian

Two weeks ago you called the Guardian a shabby rag :-o

Weak men like Trump are unable to stand up to bullies....

On the contrary, Smart men like Trump are not intimidated by insults from Europeans to drag us into your war.
My prediction is that the U.K. will be the first NATO country Putin attacks and you know it.
That's why we have all the little European scholars here whistling in the dark and name calling to have Trump get involved.
Go fight your own war as you own it, it is a European war, then we will see who is unable to stand up to who, tuff guy.. :-)
jon357  73 | 24469
11 Jun 2025   #1040
Guardian

They're his words, not reportage.

Perhaps you didn't read the article you're trying to comment on.
Novichok  6 | 9899
11 Jun 2025   #1041
Who cares about some Boris bullshit from 2022 which is an obvious lie

...and so is "Russian invasion"...and a million dead men...

It's all Hollywood CGI.

What a moron...
mafketis  41 | 11534
11 Jun 2025   #1042
My prediction is that the U.K. will be the first NATO country Putin attacks

More likely Estonia or Latvia to 'liberate' the russian speaking minority (who might not want to be 'liberated' in that way but being russians they'll shut up and do as they're told).

Smart men like Trump are not intimidated by insults from Europeans to drag us into your war

I kind of agree, I always tell people here to not count on America, a notoriously unreliable ally that's liable to betray Poland.

America simply cannot be trusted.
jon357  73 | 24469
11 Jun 2025   #1043
More likely Estonia or Latvia

One of those or Moldova. It won't be either France or Britain for a very obvious reason.

Boris Pistorius was interviewed last night (or the night before) and said that he expects some sort of outrage from r*SSia sooner or later to test the water re. Article 5. He did give a timeframe which depends on r*SSian rearmament.

And meanwhile, the TACO Bell end still hasn't imposed the sanctions he threatened. As Churchill said to Chamberlain after he returned from Munich: "You were given a choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war."

Vladimir Putin was last month threatened by Western leaders with "massive" sanctions if he did not agree to a ceasefire, but there has been little sign of follow-through, even as the dictator steps up his summer offensive.
Donald Trump, the US president, appears unwilling to enact the sanctions he has sometimes mooted, repeatedly offering Putin "two weeks" more to show himself ready for peace

telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/06/10/russia-ukraine-zelensky-putin-war-latest-news529/
Tacitus  2 | 1406
11 Jun 2025   #1044
and said that he expects some sort of outrage from r*SSia sooner or later to test the water re. Article 5.

He is refering to a scenario which has been outlined by Carlo Masala in his recent bestseller: When Russia wins.

Basically Russia invades Narva with a small force to "protect" Russian-speakers who make up the majority in this city and threatens an all out war if NATO counterattacks.

In the end, NATO fails to reach a consensus and refuses to trigger Article 5, effectively destroying the alliance.

When Russia wins: a scenario Carlo Masala

youtube.com/watch?v=R8aS5dfA3NI&t=97s
johnny reb  49 | 8073
11 Jun 2025   #1045
America simply cannot be trusted.

Did you trust Trump when he said that he would not back Europe in a war with Russia ?
johnny reb  49 | 8073
11 Jun 2025   #1046
It won't be either France or Britain for a very obvious reason.

What obvious reason is that, jon ?
And please don't say the u.k. would be dumb enough to strike back with nukes in a conventional war because Russia has a whole lot more of them scattered around than the u.k. does and certainly would strike back with them and being the u.k. is so tiny of a country it wouldn't take much for Putin to wipe it off the map.
Think about it before you tuff guy talk.
cms neuf  2 | 2128
11 Jun 2025   #1047
Another special operation ? In Estonia ?

Should be good for a laugh

Let's hope the drunk idiots bring a map and some ammunition this time
jon357  73 | 24469
11 Jun 2025   #1048
a scenario which has been outlined by Carlo Masala in his recent bestseller: When Russia wins.

I read a fairly dreary novel a couple, of weeks ago about nuclear war. By an American writer, prolific but banal. The scenario about the war starting was an orc tactical missile accidentally hitting somewhere in south east Poland, with Poland triggering Article 5.

Then, most of Europe was wrecked permanently by fallout from ground burst missiles launched before anyone could react. They wrecked America by a mix of Poseidon subs causing tidal waves on each of their coasts, a TOT (time on target) strike flattening Washington, and a series of nukes destroying the bunker Cheyenne Mountain and the other strikes plus fallout/hunger/infighting killing 90% of their population.

That was fiction though, designed to set up a scenario where the book's hero could do all sorts of exiting things.

The reality is more banal, and Pistorius probably called it right. They'll try something, however it won't be until r*SSia rearms. They'll try it on a smaller country who would need to rely on NATO to thwart them, almost certainly one that was formerly part of the USSR.
Tacitus  2 | 1406
11 Jun 2025   #1049
All jokes about the Russians aside, Estonia has only like 20k soldiers, no MBT, no planes and almost nothing to defend against missiles. They would require the support of fellow NATO troops to repell even a limited Russian invasion.
jon357  73 | 24469
11 Jun 2025   #1050
And for sure this is at the front of their dictator's mind.

BTW, the interview was of course Bruno Kahl. The same article mentions something Pistorius said last year.
thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/attack-nato-germany-9700tn2z2


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