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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 21


Torq  11 | 1217
1 May 2025   #841
x.com/StratcomCentre/status/1917492286272700904

Jesus...
Novichok  4 | 9298
1 May 2025   #842
Ukrainian journalist was kidnapped in 2023 by russian forces who recently returned part of her dead body to Ukraine

He committed suicide. Jumped from a 10th-floor balcony three times...
Korvinus  3 | 647
1 May 2025   #843
They can hate whoever they want. Just keep your stupid mouth shut.

You are a coward. Life is boring anyway, why to humiliate yourself just to keep living?
Novichok  4 | 9298
1 May 2025   #844
You are a coward.

Coward - a person who has no desire to die for "freedom and democracy".

Thanks to my being that coward, I found a woman who gave birth to two girls who, in turn, gave birth to two girls each.

Yesterday, one of them said: I love you, Grandpa...Priceless...

Conclusion: Take your "freedom and democracy" and stick it where the sun don't shine...

Don't forget to say hi to the Warsaw Uprising azzholes...
Novichok  4 | 9298
1 May 2025   #845
Russia thanks US for help during WWII

Novi thanks the Red Army for liberating Poland.


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mafketis  40 | 11365
1 May 2025   #846
No discussion of this?

Set-up: Son of CIA official killed while fighting in Ukraine.....

Punchline: He was fighting for the russians.... he had become a muslim communist....

x.com/igorsushko/status/1915824532667142289

Extra punchline: The russians had the son of a CIA official and couldn't think of anything better to do with him than send him on a meat assault....

You'd think that at least they'd accuse him of a crime to try to get a russian terrorist or criminal out western jail... but nope. Sent to the front knowing he'd die like a dog there...
cms neuf  2 | 1960
1 May 2025   #847
I read other reports about him that just said he was killed in Ukraine - nothing confirming he was in the front line. Obviously a very troubled man.
mafketis  40 | 11365
1 May 2025   #848
reports about him that just said he was killed in Ukraine - nothing confirming he was in the front line

It could well be that he met the same fate as Russell Bentley, another American who was fighting for the tsar and his right to steal sh[t.... who was raped and tortured to death by his comrades.... who knows?

In happier news.... one soldier on the russian side was so carried away beating the crap out of another that he forget to pay attention to the drone.....

x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1917666846041690219
Novichok  4 | 9298
1 May 2025   #849
Punchline: He was fighting for the Russians...

So? Where is that punchline?
Korvinus  3 | 647
1 May 2025   #850
From Trump's point of view the real problem isn't an Ukrainian collapse, but that he doesn't manage to divert the blame somewhere else. As long as he sells the idea that he's done everything he could to prevent it among his supporters, he's probably going to be fine.

So far he has:

Said the USA has contributed 3x as much as it has actually contributed
Diminished a lot the financial aid to Ukraine from EU which has been more than all of USA aid combined.
Extorted a wonderful rare earth deal (but only for the USA)
Posed as a mediator at the same time he admits USA was the cause of the war.
Cave in to some meaningful Russian demands
Offer EU lifts its anti Russian sanction in exchange of... it looks like nothing, cause he's trying to get the EU to buy more LNG from USA.

Now he's just going to say that after he was so generous they refused his wonderful offer and just walk away from the problem?? It certainly looks like something he could do....

However, the US may "walk away" from negotiations, but will they walk away from aid to Ukraine? I bet that EU will still be willing to spend money on Ukraine. Only question is: will US sell stuff to EU so it would be given to Ukraine?
Tacitus  2 | 1356
1 May 2025   #851
Only question is: will US sell stuff to EU so it would be given to Ukraine?

That is really the key question. There are simply American systems that Europe can not replace sufficiently e.g. Patriots.
Novichok  4 | 9298
1 May 2025   #852
will US sell stuff to EU so it would be given to Ukraine?

Give them your own.

NATO and the EU are a farse. Both are parasites riding on the US' military back.

How do I know that? Easy. Right now, the EU would be capable of deploying 25,000 men to Ukraine "to keep peace". That's it.

Translation: Sans bullets. You know...somebody may get hurt... Azzholes...but good for Russia...Russia loves azzholes...

I also noticed that the smaller the yapper the louder its bark...See that powerhouse Estonia...

There are simply American systems that Europe can not replace sufficiently e.g. Patriots.

...because you, Euro morons, are parasites...

"Let the stupid Americans take care of our parasitic asses so we can spend money on being oh so progressive and "happy". See Denmark and other "happy" places...
Novichok  4 | 9298
1 May 2025   #853
As long as he sells the idea that he's done everything he could to prevent it among his supporters, he's probably going to be fine.

You are an idiot who knows shlt...Now pay attention...

His supporters want him to do as little as possible...better yet, nothing...We don't give a fvck about another Euro BS.
Korvinus  3 | 647
1 May 2025   #854
Give them your own.

Why not? I mean, why Trump has any problem with American companies making money while the Slavs keep killing each other?
Torq  11 | 1217
1 May 2025   #855
because you, Euro morons, are parasites

Parasites? America spent only $567 million on NATO in 2023...

reuters.com/fact-check/us-contributes-16-nato-annual-budget-not-two-thirds-2024-05-31/

... whilst EU countries spent 90 billion euro on defence equipment procurement last year, 63% of which is spent on American weapons systems...

consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/defence-numbers/

defensenews.com/global/europe/2024/09/09/eu-buys-too-much-defense-equipment-abroad-especially-from-us-report/

... which amounts to about $60 billion.

In other words, you idiot, the USA had 105 times more income than expense when it comes to Europe and NATO, so could you please not be such a f*cking retard?
mafketis  40 | 11365
1 May 2025   #856
the USA had 105 times more income than expense when it comes to Europe and NATO, so could you please not be such a f*cking retard?

Dont' ask for the impossible... it's best to ignore donkeys and let them bray into the abyss without response.

In other news.... I'm not a big fan of the '4D Chess' idea about Trump, but Alex Berenson (the journalist who was right about Covid long before anyone else in the media) says the mainstream US media has distorted details about Trump's peace proposals and they are far better and forward looking than most people realize....

FYI only...

alexberenson.substack.com/p/maybe-just-maybe-trump-is-making
Torq  11 | 1217
1 May 2025   #857
@Novichok

It's really a very simple question in 3 parts...

A: How much does the EU NATO members BUY from the American military each year?​
B: How much does America put to NATO each year?​
C: Divide A by B - what do you get?

Let's see how the average rough calculation looks like. Question A...

A rough estimate of the annual spending by EU NATO members on American military equipment likely falls somewhere in the range of $50-$70 billion USD annually. These figures don't always capture the full cost of services, training, and long-term maintenance contracts associated with military equipment, but let's be generous and forget about those costs and only count the money directly spent on buying American weapons.

Now, question B...

As of September 2024, the United States' cost-share was 15.88%, the same as Germany's. For 2024, the main NATO budgets were:

Civil Budget: €438.1 million (approximately $464 million USD at early 2024 exchange rates). The US contribution would be roughly $73.7 million.
Military Budget: €2.03 billion (approximately $2.15 billion USD). The US contribution would be roughly $341.5 million.
NATO Security Investment Programme (NSIP): Ceiling of €1.3 billion (approximately $1.38 billion USD). The US contribution would be roughly $218.9 million.
Therefore, the direct contribution from the U.S. to NATO's main budgets in 2024 was approximately $634.1 million USD.

We can, therefore, move on to question C...

Let's divide number A by number B:

Number B - $634.1 million
Number A - $50 billion−$70 billion

To perform this division, we need to ensure the units are consistent. Let's convert everything to USD millions:

Number A (lower bound): 50 billion USD=50,000 million USD
Number A (upper bound): 70 billion USD=70,000 million USD
Number B: 634.1 million USD

Now, let's perform the division for both the lower and upper bounds of Number A:

Lower Bound:

634.1 million USD divided by 50,000 million USD ≈78.85

Upper Bound:

634.1 million USD divided by 70,000 million USD ≈110.39

Therefore, when you divide the estimated annual amount the EU NATO members buy from the American military (Number A) by the direct annual contribution of the United States to NATO's main budgets (Number B), the result is approximately in the range of 78.85 to 110.39.

This suggests that the amount spent by these NATO allies on U.S. military goods and services is roughly 79 to 110 times greater than the direct financial contribution of the U.S. to NATO's core operating budgets.

This also suggests that Novichok sucks c*cks.
Torq  11 | 1217
1 May 2025   #858
Dont' ask for the impossible... it's best to ignore donkeys and let them bray into the abyss without response.

True. But I am so sick and tired of this idiot calling Europeans parasites.

alexberenson.substack.com/p/maybe-just-maybe-trump-is-making

Hm... interesting.
mafketis  40 | 11365
1 May 2025   #859
so sick and tired of this idiot calling Europeans parasite

That's why he does it... to provoke an angry reaction. He's an emotional vampire, so starve him by not reacting.... that will hurt his feefee more.
Torq  11 | 1217
1 May 2025   #860
so starve him by not reacting.

OK, I'll try. *sighs*
OP Miloslaw  25 | 5432
1 May 2025   #861
Novi thanks the Red Army for liberating Poland.

Novihock/Rich Mazur is obviously a complete idiot!
So Rich, why exactly did you leave this utopia of Poland created by the Russians?
Please be specific.
OP Miloslaw  25 | 5432
1 May 2025   #862
But yeah, according to the Russian ar$e lickers on this forum, the Russians are winning this war,
But this is the truth;


OP Miloslaw  25 | 5432
1 May 2025   #863
Good bye Russia......


Novichok  4 | 9298
1 May 2025   #864
So Rich, why exactly did you leave this utopia of Poland created by the Russians?

To make more money.
Novichok  4 | 9298
1 May 2025   #865
I mean, why Trump has any problem with American companies making money while the Slavs keep killing each other?

I don't answer stupid questions with a built-in assumption. Like:

Did you stop beating your wife?

Same kind of mental crap.

the Russian ar$e lickers on this forum,

Those who claim Ukraine is winning...are they Ukrainian azz lickers?
OP Miloslaw  25 | 5432
1 May 2025   #866
This is a great deal for both the USA and Ukraine.
Will Putin really continue to attack Ukraine when the USA have just invested in the country?
And if they do, won't the USA retaliate?


Novichok  4 | 9298
1 May 2025   #867
so starve him by not reacting.... that will hurt his feefee more.

If you Euros all died tomorrow, I would still continue posting. Think of PF as my diary...

Trust me...I am not hurtable...

the USA have just invested in the country?

The US didn't invest a dime yet and hopefully never will.

Would you invest in Poland in 1946?
Novichok  4 | 9298
1 May 2025   #868
It's really a very simple question in 3 parts...

Your post is too long and you are too stupid...

All I know is that we have a trade deficit with every Euro parasite, the US doesn't need NATO, and that we spend close to 1T where 200B would be plenty for the US to stay safe.

As far as the rest of you...go fvck yourself...
Ironside  51 | 13147
2 May 2025   #869
No discussion of this?

There is nothing to talk about. He is an American, so it doesn't matter whose child he is; he makes his own decisions.
Secondly, it is unclear whether it is a former CIA official or a current one.
I suspect it is some pensioner nobody cares about.
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Why didn't they make some use of him? Either they didn't know about his family connections, or knew all about it and found it useless.
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There is lot of nubskuls in the west who think that Russia is some attractive, down-to-earth conservative heaven. It is nothing new since Kate not so Great there are plenty of morons like that.
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By the way, I have long suspected that the CIA is just a statistical office whilst some other agency does the real job.
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But I am so sick and tired of this idiot calling Europeans parasites.

You don't understand. He has deep psychological issues, he is European and a parasite, and that is his way of confessing. Dude must feel really bad about it.
Velund  1 | 508
2 May 2025   #870
Another post from Tatyana Montyan tg channel...

11 years of the massacre in Odessa ...

Today marks 11 years since the tragedy of May 2, 2014 in Odessa. It would seem how much has happened in these 11 years, how many people have died during this time!

A whole ocean of blood and death, in which the 48 victims of the Odessa tragedy are just a small drop, which, it seems, should no longer matter. But it does - because for many people it is where it all began.

And not even because those who died in Odessa were the first whose lives were taken by the burgeoning war. No, they had died before that: they had already been shooting in Donbass, and if we think about it in a good way, chronologically the first big bloodshed took place in February 2014 in the center of Kiev.

The specifics of the Odessa tragedy are different: it was then, after May 2, 2014, that it became clear that all of this was not just some protracted misunderstanding, that it was impossible to just get smart, sit down, discuss everything, agree on something, and solve everything peacefully.

I once discussed those events with one of my Odessa acquaintances, and he said a very important thing: it was not so much the tragedy itself that shocked me, but the reaction to it. The Maidauns did not and do not think that they did something wrong, that they did something incredibly bad - something to repent of.

On the contrary, they regarded and treat what happened as an extremely positive event, and, as they later said themselves, as a day of "victory over the Russian world".

If we remove the political tinsel, we are left with a very simple idea: they treated the people who burned in the Trade Union House not as fellow citizens, not as fellow countrymen with simply different views and opinions - they treated them as enemies who were absolutely inhuman in their eyes.

And if the enemy does not surrender - they destroy him. And it is senseless and even stupid to grieve about his death.

And this is exactly what everyone understood after May 2 - maybe not at the level of specific formulations, but at the level of emotions and feelings.

The tragedy became a rift smoking with fresh blood and burning human flesh, which split the society according to the criterion of attitude to it. And those who were on one side of this abyss could no longer find common ground with those on the other side: they simply had nothing else to talk and agree on.

That is why, after May 2, volunteers from both Russia and Ukraine - from Odessa, Kharkiv, Zaporozhye, Kyiv and many other cities - went to Donbas en masse.

Because it became clear: the time for talking was over. It is time to shoot. And so far this time, alas, is not over, no matter how much we would all like it to be otherwise.

For those who still do not fully and sufficiently understand what exactly happened in Odessa on May 2, 2014, what events preceded it and how they influenced what happened, I recommend to watch an interview with Vladimir Grubnik, given by him seven years after the tragedy: as an Odessian, he knows exactly what we are talking about!


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