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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10


Novichok 4 | 8,287
12 Apr 2024 #1,381
That Russia is an aggressor attacking it's neighbors?

Neighbors who don't behave should be attacked. That's why you have police. You do have police, right?
Alien 21 | 5,154
12 Apr 2024 #1,382
That's why you have police

Yes, russia is like Gestapo. Secret state police.
Torq 6 | 785
12 Apr 2024 #1,383
We're starting to fire on all 12 cylinders.

Why? What's going on? There's nothing on Polish internet about it.
Alien 21 | 5,154
12 Apr 2024 #1,384
fire on all 12 cylinders.

He means a 12-cylinder engine from an old T72 tank, it finally fired up.
Torq 6 | 785
12 Apr 2024 #1,385
@Alien

Or maybe some kind of Operation Bagration has just started and we are not informed by our media about it.

Typical.
Novichok 4 | 8,287
12 Apr 2024 #1,386
French Navy preparing for war - admiral
The Marine Nationale is training to face an adversary "who wants to destroy us," a senior officer has said


Hey, stupid, that ship sailed 84 years ago...Drink less...

BTW, who is that adversary who wants to destroy France? French government?

These mother fvckers - along with Muslim migrants - are doing a splendid job already and that carrier will not help any since Paris is too far from the Atlantic Ocean.
Alien 21 | 5,154
12 Apr 2024 #1,387
r maybe some kind of Operation Bagration

It would only be a short flight and the French would finish them off again.
Novichok 4 | 8,287
12 Apr 2024 #1,388
Yes, russia is like Gestapo. Secret state police.

And that's why Russia let Navalny go to Germany for treatment. BTW, what the fvck did your "doctors" do to this poor guy so that he conveniently dies later to make Putin look bad - the same Putin who intervened to let him leave Russia...

Another question: Is every Polak in Germany as fvcked in his head? By now, it's really embarrassing...I will never admit I was born in the same country you were...
cms neuf 1 | 1,833
12 Apr 2024 #1,389
Who the hell is Putler to "let" people leave? Pathetic

Proves that North Nigeria is a feudal state run by repressive losers
mafketis 37 | 10,973
12 Apr 2024 #1,390
Who wouldn't want this lifestyle? Sitting in the water in your flooded home watching state run news letting you know about Norwegian girls forced to marry penguins!

twitter.com/DevanaUkraine/status/1777347322520715309

maybe some kind of Operation Bagration has just started and we are not informed by our media

Or maybe it's just the usual russian bluster, they've been announcing imminent victory more or less from the beginning....

Who the hell is Putler to "let" people leave?

He's Novichok's beloved.... his little pelmeni-faced godking

And russia is testing an intercontinental ballistic missile.... russia has declared war on the west and stupid cowards refuse to wake up and smell the coffee!
Novichok 4 | 8,287
12 Apr 2024 #1,391
Who the hell is Putler to "let" people leave? Pathetic

Hey, moron, Navalny was out on parole, you stupid azhole...so he was not allowed to leave Russia. It took Putin's personal intervention to overrule the police and the law.

BTW, the first thing the feds take away from you in the US when you are a suspect or something like this is your fvcking passport!!!! to prevent you from leaving. Duh!

I hate azholes...especially the Polish variety...
cms neuf 1 | 1,833
12 Apr 2024 #1,392
On parole after being in prisoner just for soaking his mind. And then killed.

Yeah yeah, in Canada you can be arrested for ordering "white" coffee or some other bollocks
Novichok 4 | 8,287
12 Apr 2024 #1,393
just for soaking his mind.

In your case, soaking your brain in sulphuric acid would help....Let me know how it went...
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,909
12 Apr 2024 #1,394
.....it's "preparation FOR the public", isn't it? Not "of the public, ja?
Miloslaw 19 | 5,081
12 Apr 2024 #1,395
And russia is testing an intercontinental ballistic missile.

Which they could not launch because of "Problems"......

russia has declared war on the west and stupid cowards refuse to wake up and smell the coffee!

I sadly, think that you are right......... WW3 is almost inevitable...... unless Ukraine wins.
Velund 1 | 664
12 Apr 2024 #1,396
Which they could not launch because of "Problems"......

You definitely must change your news sources or use some other drugs... It looks like that you live in parallel reality where NATO is omnipotent and Ukraine is shining example of democracy and freedom (whenever it means in that reality).
OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,909
13 Apr 2024 #1,397
Russia's losses in the Ukraine war: Putin's army crosses bitter milestone

merkur.de/politik/000-marke-russland-erreicht-duesteren-meilenstein-verluste-im-ukraine-krieg-ueberschreiten-450-93000004.html

...According to the Ukrainian military, the number of Russian casualties in the Ukraine war has exceeded 450,000 since February 2022.

Moscow - Russian armed forces continue to suffer heavy losses in Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine . In the past 24 hours alone , Russian losses amounted to over 800 soldiers, 48 ​​artillery systems, 12 armored fighting vehicles and five tanks, Ukrainian Pravda reported on Wednesday (April 11), citing the Ukrainian military. In recent months, Russia has repeatedly paid for its military successes in the Ukraine war with high losses and large use of materials.


That was planned so differently....what else won't go as planned for Putin....
Novichok 4 | 8,287
13 Apr 2024 #1,398
...According to the Ukrainian military,

An honest statistician reveals how data was collected.
How was data about Russian casualties collected by the Ukrainian military?

WW3 is almost inevitable...... unless Ukraine wins.

Milo,you are not doing well today...This is the second idiotic thing you posted today...

If NATO wants WW3, it will attack Russia with so much force that Russia will retreat from CDL. Once NATO is on the roll, the next target will be Moscow.

This is when you will see a beautiful mushroom over London plus a couple of other places in Europe.

My advice: Pray for Russia's win. Even Biden will be rooting for Russia after his win in November.

You definitely must change your news sources or use some other drugs...

My idea exactly...

WW3 is almost inevitable...... unless Ukraine wins.

The joke of the day..."Ukraine wins"...a good one..hahahahahaha...
Novichok 4 | 8,287
13 Apr 2024 #1,399
Sending troops to Ukraine 'worth considering' - ex-UK defense minister
You go first, azhole...
Velund 1 | 664
13 Apr 2024 #1,400
Japan accused Russia of "nuclear rhetoric" and recalled Hiroshima and Nagasaki

Japanese representative in the UN Security Council Mitsuko Shino said that Japan is the only country on which nuclear bombs were dropped, and because of this Tokyo will not put up with "Russian nuclear threats". About the fact that the bombs were dropped on Japan by the U.S., Shino was traditionally silent.

"I would like to reiterate Japan's clear position on Russia's repeated nuclear rhetoric. As the only country that was nuclear bombed during the war Japan will never tolerate Russian nuclear threats, let alone the use of nuclear weapons. The catastrophe of Hiroshima and Nagasaki must never be repeated," the diplomat said.

At the same time, Biden and Japanese Prime Minister Kishida recently issued a joint statement in which the United States pledged to defend Tokyo. It was about, among other things, the use of nuclear weapons if necessary. However, Japan does not consider its rhetoric threatening.

BTW: Does Biden offered to protect Poland with nuclear weapons, or just add polish arms orders to MIC orders portfolio to get their kickback? ;)
Novichok 4 | 8,287
13 Apr 2024 #1,401
About the fact that the bombs were dropped on Japan by the U.S., Shino was traditionally silent.

Pity the US had only two. I would execute 100,000 Japs for every America POW they tortured to death.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,016
13 Apr 2024 #1,402
@Novichok
Want to see a French France? Visit now before its gone. Paris and Marseille are disastors. Marseille in particular is a crime ridden mess and one of the more dangerous places I have been to.

As for WW3, keep watching how Israel and Iran will keep escalating things, and sleepy Joe turns his attention there. With tens of thousands of US troops in the middle east, Biden will put Ukraine on the back burner if things keep escalating. Meanwhile Johnson is talking about a vote on Ukraine aid next week on some updated Senate funding measure. And then you have Peskov saying that the 2022 outline for peace could be looked at as a basis for a new peace plan in the future. But of course lets keep killing men on both sides instead of saving lives.
Torq 6 | 785
13 Apr 2024 #1,403
United States pledged to defend Tokyo. It was about, among other things, the use of nuclear weapons if necessary. However, Japan does not consider its rhetoric threatening.

I think the key word is 'defend' and the key phrase is 'if necessary'. It's hardly threatening to anybody to say that you are going to defend with all means necessary. Unless this "somebody" is an aggressor thinking of invading.

Poland is, of course, under the nuclear umbrella of NATO. We will also join the nuclear sharing program soon, and in a slightly further perspective get our own nuclear weapons. It is a threat to absolutely nobody. Unless, of course, such "somebody" would like to think about invading Poland. In such scenario all the holes of said "somebody" (whoever it might be) will be ruthlessly ripped (without the use of lubrication).
Velund 1 | 664
13 Apr 2024 #1,404
will be ruthlessly ripped (without the use of lubrication).

Similar to 1939? When the government ran to the border ahead of its own squealing?

Kanja, you seem like a smart man, but there's something you don't fully understand about nuclear weapons. They don't give any guarantees by themselves. In order for it to serve as a guarantee, it must:

1. Be maintained in good condition which is expensive even for a developed country. ( Does Poland have radiation-chemical plants capable of reprocessing plutonium and its own reactor with constant tritium production?),

2. Have adequate means of delivery, which will pass anti-air defences and will not be shut down by a single command from abroad, if a strike against someone would contradict the geopolitical plans of the suppliers of the means of delivery.

3. Have the determination and political will to use it and be held responsible for it. I wasn't joking about responsibility.

4. Be prepared for a nuclear response, after which the Poles will need a new place to live for approx. 300 years (~10 half-lives of 90Sr). The Russians, for example, have the Siberian taiga in reserve to house survivors, but what does Poland have?
pawian 224 | 24,693
13 Apr 2024 #1,405
The Russians, for example, have the Siberian taiga in reserve to house survivors

For how long? One severe Russian winter and all Siberia survivors except a few are a song of the past
Torq 6 | 785
13 Apr 2024 #1,406
Similar to 1939?

I was thinking more along the lines of 1920.

it must:

Points 1-3, we will have all that. Yes, it costs money but when it comes to safety there will be no expense spared.

As for point 4, well - we are under constant nuclear threat; if these threats were ever realised then it's better to answer with about 400 warheads than with nothing, right?

I mean, if we are to be nuked, then at least we should be able to respond with the same.

Besides, think of the damage that 400 warheads (if Pakistan can have 170, then Poland will get 400 easily) would do. The damage would make the entire idea of nuking/invading Poland totally unprofitable - therefore, no such thing would ever happen, so your Siberian taiga scenario would be prevented precisely because Poland would have nuclear weapons.
Velund 1 | 664
13 Apr 2024 #1,407
For how long?

For long enough. I worked in Krasnoyarsk at winter, and with adequate clothes, I will always prefer -50 there to -15 in Saint Petersburg. Or even to -10 with wind from seaside.
Velund 1 | 664
13 Apr 2024 #1,408
better to answer with about 400 warheads

You still seem to be thinking in terms of cavalry strikes and number of sabers as the main factor. I won't comment further.

Now imagine that 5-7-10 "Daggers" with nuke warhead start immediately once preperations to launch is detected. You have about 1.5 minute to finish preparations and have everything launched. Then your nuclear facilities and decision making centers cease to exist. Together with civilians from that local areas.
Alien 21 | 5,154
13 Apr 2024 #1,409
Poland would have nuclear weapons.

not soon, perhaps never.
Torq 6 | 785
13 Apr 2024 #1,410
You have about 1.5 minute to finish preparations and have everything launched.

1.5 minute? In 1.5 minute we will launch the missiles, smoke a quick cigarette and have a goodbye sex with our wives (for Pawian even 20 seconds will be enough for the last activity ha ha).

Besides, we will put some missiles on submarines spread all over the globe, so good luck detecting that.

not soon, perhaps never.

Shut up, Alien.


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