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Poland has accepted over a million Ukrainian refugees. Why does the EU keep telling propaganda about Poland?



Dirk diggler 4 | 536    
15 Jul 2017  #91

@Lyzko

No one should. That's why Islam is evil because seeks to implement and convert people by force, conquest, etc. You know the type of stuff Europeans did 500 years ago but have since become more tolerant. Not Muslims though.. You can't dispute this its written in the koran to spread Islam by force till everyone is chanting allah akbar


Lyzko 15 | 3,277    
15 Jul 2017  #92

I'll grant you that much! On the other hand, ISIS doesn't represent the whole of Islam any more than the mega militant Meier Kahane represented all Jews or even Israelis!
mafketis 16 | 4,508    
15 Jul 2017  #93

ISIS doesn't represent the whole of Islam

They represent a very literal version which almost no 'moderate' muslims know how to argue against because virtually all modern muslim theology is based on the doctrine of koranic literalism.

Christians and Jews have mostly abandoned literalism*, but muslims haven't and it's why the muslim world lags so badly socially, politically and intellectually.

You can actually plot the decline of Islamic achievement when the doctrine of literalism decisively won a theological struggle. they turned away from science and most have yet to find their way back.

*it's just small freaky subsets, none of which are really mainstream
Lyzko 15 | 3,277    
15 Jul 2017  #94

Statistically correct, Maf. And yet how in heaven's name do we separate the rotten apples from the rest of the bleedin' batch, would you tell me?
mafketis 16 | 4,508    
15 Jul 2017  #95

how in heaven's name do we separate the rotten apples from the rest of the bleedin' batch

the first step is to admit there's a problem and that sometimes diversity for its own sake is not an absolute good

as for detoxifying islamic theology - that's not a job that you or I can do anything about, only muslims can do that, and there are even some reasonable imams but they get harassed/threatened by the violent minority (that is de facto supported by the 'moderate' majority).

There's not a single European country that wants more muslim immigration, in Europe the first step is for governments to recognize and act on that (not by telling the majority that they're wrong). Stopping the inflow to a trickle of highly educated would be a start.
Lyzko 15 | 3,277    
15 Jul 2017  #96

Agree 100% with you there, Maf! Glad to see we still see eye to eye on some things:-)
mafketis 16 | 4,508    
15 Jul 2017  #97

Glad to see we still see eye to eye on some things:-)

except all the politicans in europe you support are grimly determined to keep bringing in large numbers of people with no hope of integrating (if they want to)

Interesting link:
nationalinterest.org/feature/ive-worked-refugees-decades-europes-afghan-crime-wave-mind-21506?page=show

reputable publication the author has worked with refugees for years and is horrified at what's happening in austra - the buried lede: the 'reputable' Afghans in Austria help and support the sex attackers....

Still glad about the austrian presidential elections?
Lyzko 15 | 3,277    
15 Jul 2017  #98

I always was divided about that. Sad it's come to this, tragic, really.




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