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Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany?


jon357  73 | 23224
30 Sep 2024   #361
the german state, which is co-owner of this bank, will not allow

surely that's against the spirit of european integration.
OP Alien  25 | 6002
30 Sep 2024   #362
against the spirit of european integration.

but germany's consent to the takeover of approximately 500 german petrol stations by the polish orlen was in the spirit of european integration.
jon357  73 | 23224
30 Sep 2024   #363
but germany's consent to the takeover o

excellent, so there's a precedent. hard to know why 'consent' would be needed though unless they were government owned, or the government there held more than 50% of the shares.

what is the afd view on this?
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11923
30 Sep 2024   #364
what is the afd view on this?

here....i found something (translated by google:)

www-presseportal-de.translate.goog/pm/110332/5871838?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
OP Alien  25 | 6002
30 Sep 2024   #365
why 'consent' would be needed

in no european country can you take over 500 gas stations without government consent.
jon357  73 | 23224
30 Sep 2024   #366
You can in the UK, (it's happened several times over the past few years) and in any case, I can't see why any government would refuse a business based in a friendly country.

It seems Germany is fine about companies there taking over businesses in other countries but somehow against companies in other countries taking over ones in Germany.

This reminds me of Micron who helps French businesses take over ones elsewhere but blocked the purchase of a yoghurt factory by a European company on grounds of 'national security'

@BB the link doesn't work. A link to the original would be fine; if there's stuff I don't understand, I can translate it at this end.
Miloslaw  21 | 5181
30 Sep 2024   #367
It seems Germany is fine about companies there taking over businesses in other countries but somehow against companies in other countries taking over ones in Germany.

This reminds me of Micron who helps French businesses take over ones elsewhere but blocked the purchase of a yoghurt factory by a European company on grounds of 'national security'

This "One rule for us another rule for everyone else" attitude is why the majority of Brits voted to leave the EU.
The EU is a corrupt self serving group that favours Germany and France.
jon357  73 | 23224
30 Sep 2024   #368
the majority of Brits voted to leave the EU.

38% of the electorate, however what's done is done, and the economy is doing better than other European countries.

"One rule for us another rule for everyone else"

It's actually written into the EU constitution; clauses that favour certain countries over others. Of course Italy is a major EU country too so it's hard to see why its a problem for them.

Perhaps they think that they should buy but not be bought. I remember howls of outrage in the media there when a UK insurance company bought a German one. They seemed to take it as an insult that the company sale was that way round and not the other.

And their afd fascists must be seething about this; Scholtz certainly is.
Miloslaw  21 | 5181
30 Sep 2024   #369
38% of the electorate

A lot more than voted for Labour in our recent General Election and Labour won with a landslide!
So, by that measure, the Brexit vote was also a landslide!

and the economy is doing better than other European countries.

Which just shows that we were right to vote leave, despite the problems that the EU continue to throw at us..... these bad losers are so stubborn!
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11923
30 Sep 2024   #370
@BB the link doesn't work. A link to the original would be fine;

Okay.....here it is:

presseportal.de/pm/110332/5871838
jon357  73 | 23224
30 Sep 2024   #371
Labour won with a landslide!

Thank God for that.

Brexit was a mess; better to have renegotiated. And nobody voted to leave the EEA.

despite the problems that the EU continue to throw at us

Better to have stayed in and abused all the rules to our advantage like France and Germany do.

Sooner or later the r*SSian involvement in that and the failed Scottish referendum will be in the public domain.
Miloslaw  21 | 5181
30 Sep 2024   #372
Better to have stayed in and abused all the rules to our advantage like France and Germany do

Really? Despite the fact that tactic is very "Un British" we Brits would never be allowed into that club...... it is only for France and Germany.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11923
30 Sep 2024   #373
Na ja....who could forget the honorable Mrs. Thatcher....who protested with her handbag every closer unification of the continent like a common currency.

Milo, I fear that dislike was two-sided! ;)
Miloslaw  21 | 5181
30 Sep 2024   #374
Milo, I fear that dislike was two-sided! ;)

The UK is too different to mainland Europe.We should never have even applied to join.De Gaulle kept us out for years, because he knew Brits were not compatible and would cause problems.He was right and we were right to leave as unwelcome guests.......
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11923
30 Sep 2024   #375
Yeah....now all know better....*nods*

(Even as I liked Mrs. Thatcher, she was something else! :)
jon357  73 | 23224
30 Sep 2024   #376
we Brits would never be allowed into that club

We were in a position to buy both countries but were too short-sighted,

Perhaps that's what we will do. France is howling and squealing that their cheating tender bids for power stations are being taken seriously and the contracts are being enforced; it's costing them billions. They should have bid a price they could realistically do the job for, rather than underbid and hopoe for handouts later. Micron is weeping now.

At least German companies were sensible enough to sell off their rail/bus franchises quickly and at a loss, fire sale prices. The unfortunate buyers are finding not only that the contracts won't autorenew as they'd hoped and in fact franchises are being cancelled when they don't meet the service level agreements that they signed up to.

I liked Mrs. Thatcher,

We in coal mining communities didn't. She was very pro-single market though.

And now the EU is crumbling, with a fascist block in the east and internal strife.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11923
30 Sep 2024   #377
And now the EU is crumbling,

My take is.....the bureaucratic outer mass, which grew so much in the last decades, is crumbling....for the better! The inner core, the foundation of the EU, will be revived and survive, because its needed.

(Hey, we got our capitals back:)
jon357  73 | 23224
1 Oct 2024   #378
Hard to know what that means specifically.

If anything, the two core countries are both places that are analogue countries in a digital world
johnny reb  48 | 7975
7 Nov 2024   #379
What do you think about this B.B.?
While the world was mesmerized by events in America, Europe's biggest economy has seen its ruling coalition collapse.
The fall of the German government on Wednesday night may lack the drama of Trump's return, but the crisis in Berlin is yet another symptom of popular insurgency.
When Olaf Scholz sacked his finance minister, Christian Lindner, who had rebelled against high taxes, red tape and unrealistic net zero targets, the German Chancellor knew that this was curtains for the three party coalition led by his own Social Democrats (SPD).
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11923
7 Nov 2024   #380
What do you think about this B.B.?

I've thought I made myself already clear....the people waited for that!



The last problem will be that Scholz, like most totally inept people, is glued to his seat and this position and wants to draw this out till next year....now we have to push him...and keep pushing....

...German opposition parties and business groups on Thursday urged Chancellor Olaf Scholz to trigger a new election quickly to minimise political uncertainty after his rocky three-way coalition collapsed.....

reuters.com/world/europe/german-economy-minister-backs-scholzs-decision-end-coalition-2024-11-07/
OP Alien  25 | 6002
8 Nov 2024   #381
The CDU will win the elections (fortunately). Not much will change (fortunately.
mafketis  38 | 11106
8 Nov 2024   #382
Not much will change (fortunately.

Because shutting down nukes and opening your borders to young men from violent chaotic countries that you can then never get rid of is just *chef's kiss* in terms of policy.
OP Alien  25 | 6002
8 Nov 2024   #383
opening your borders to young men from violent chaotic countries that

The borders have been sealed.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11923
8 Nov 2024   #384
@Alien

Are you really that happy how our country is currently run?

The borders have been sealed.

Are they....someone should tell the incoming....
jon357  73 | 23224
8 Nov 2024   #385
happy how our country is currently run?

Would you prefer AfD running it or not?
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11923
8 Nov 2024   #386
No, I would not.....but frankly....it's abit like with the Dems in the US, if the current powers don't start to listen to the many complaints (!) our Trump will win soon too!

PS: Maybe a new coalition without Olaf the Doofie as the Chancellor and the Greens innit could make a big difference already.....*squeezes thumbs*
OP Alien  25 | 6002
8 Nov 2024   #387
Are you really that happy how our country is currently run?

Overall I am very happy, there are always some problems.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11923
8 Nov 2024   #388
Are you really a German, or do you think yourself still as a Pole?
Novichok  5 | 8479
8 Nov 2024   #389
a German, or do you think yourself still as a Pole?

Try a moron...
jon357  73 | 23224
8 Nov 2024   #390
but frankly....it's abit like with the Dems in the US

Yes, Kamala Harris would have been good, as are the SPD in Germany.

They're both a bit too much towards the right wing however the do their job well and there's no reason that mild dissatisfaction with some policies should lead to du ping them in favour of fascists.


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