Polish Parliamentary Elections 2023

It's Brussels that dictate what a country should and shouldn't do and Tusk is obedient to Brussels.

Stopping Tusk from destroying Poland is not about caring about themselves. Quite the contrary. I am not fan of PiS, but they still are the lesser of two evils.

Tusk's potential government will not be stable, because effectively it would be a coalition of at least 5 different parties without ability to overrule president's veto for at least next 2 years. Hopefully, it will likely collapse before it can implement any significant changes.

Who are Brussels?

Is Poland not a full member of the EU?

No, it will collapse after implementing the major changes. After the parties involved have nothing serious to do and get bored with each other. hahahaha

Apparently Duda has decided on which side he'll task with forming a government.... the choice is between

PiS = largest single party but doesn't have a majority or a way of achieving a majority since every other party says they will not join a coalition with them and buying off enough members to form a majority is unrealistic....

Opposition coalition (has a majority but the three/four member coalition could be fragile as its united mainly in opposition to PiS (mis)rule.

Who will Duda pick?

Former PM Leszek Miller says he will pick Mateusz Morawiecki. It is because Duda - according to Miller - wants to replace Jarosław Kaczyński as head of PiS in the future. Thus, the president can't do otherwise ...

We will know for sure in the evening when Duda addresses the nation.

Any bookies in Poland?I would like to place a bet that he will pick PIS as its his party morally he should not.

I'm not going to say that's not true... but there's no way he has the cojones and willpower to keep a fractious political party (the only kind in Poland) together.

Ziobro, as nasty as he is, could because he's ruthless and doesn't care if people hate him. Duda is a people pleaser which is why he failed so much as president.

We expected it and he was always going to give PiS the first go. Whether they can survive the mandatory confidence vote however is a whole different kettle of fish.

I suspect we may be hearing the name Borys Budka much more in the future.

Absolutely agree, the demographics are pretty poor in Poland and PIS meddling has contributed to this downturn in the population..still can't believe that this law was pushed through at a time when Poland was in the grip of a pandemic....as if it was so important and crucial that the Abortion Act had to be amended...unbelievable...


Sorry but I thought the election sorted out who won, but it seems that Duda is playing for time by appointing PM Morawiecki to see if he can form a government....fat chance of this happening surely....Duda must be deluded to think that anything will come of this.....what a waste of time....shouldn't PIS be emptying their offices and moving out or have I missed something...and how long is this process going to take before Tusk and co. take over....? This has to be the longest transfer of power ever....

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Were you under the illusion that he would decide otherwise, you losers? Hehe

You are both right.

First, the losers (PiS) are given the chance to form a coalition.

Then, there's an absolutorium (rather like a confidence vote). If they lose that, and it is very highly likely that they will lose that, Duda has to offer it to any other viable coalition.

This is likely to drag on for a month or so.

How is PiS going to put a coalition together? Hasn't PiS stabbed every party that tried to work with it in the back? Who wants to work with that? How will it win a confidence vote? It's just delaying tactics....

Drags on for a month during which the taxpayers of Poland continue to pay the PiS sinecures.

As they are people who don't work, they also don't understand the concept of wasted timw.

Prying PiS away from the trough (koryto) is not going to be easy...

I just have a gut feeling that PIS is playing very hard to get the members from other parties,which shouldnt be hard but if they succeed it will divide the country more but will not be a surprise.

Where would they get the money?

No one who voted for any other party wants a PiS government and anyone who agrees to work with them (apart from pro-russia konfa) will see their electorate turn _hard_ against them.

Not saying it won't happen but any such government would probably spark the biggest protests since the abortion law change (maybe bigger).

Another theory is that Duda is taking subtle revenge against PiS, a party that has humiliated him more than once in the past....

How hard is it to legally get that money from the govt coffers,and how much money do you think they have made?some probably are not multi mills but have become billionaires.Then there are portfolios that can be offered that make mega money

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What diff will that make???Poles usually are not violent so protests in Poland means chit.


In this case its the loss of power not ego thing,even the PM has offered to give up his position to keep PIS in power.

Do you think most politicians are patriots??? its all about money and power anywhere in the world.

But anyone joining them would also be making a bunch of lifelong enemies....

I think for almost all the politicians involved the short term financial benefits of joining up with PiS would be outweighed by longterm negative consequences...

Of course,if PIS remains in power this will be there last term,until something they do worthwhile in there term or a war starts.People tend to forget also.remember when they started that 500 pln scheme for kids?? what a hue and cry in Poland and everybody was bitc.hing now everything is hunky dory.


I doubt that ever exists in terms of politics and money.Its just business as usual lol
But for sure the President is giving his party the benefit.

They have plenty of options even if they get caught after some time,still so what:) they can make a investigative panel that will take years when the opposition comes by the time they have quadrupled the money or even now without touching funds they can get foreign companies who would gladly cough out some major moola and they will give them subsidies,cheap land or other benefits and that will also look good for people,101 ways.As time trickles I feel PIS is to stay.

Forget it. It's been 8 years of PiS rule in Poland. People have clearly enough already and are pissed off.

Not the people from your area,but they will not leave that easy and I can bet there are deals being offered and maybe made,time will tell.Anyway what if PIS stays what can people do??? another protests for cpl weekends like that abortion law.......more expense for the govt on cops for security thats all.Poles are new to democracy.I was born in the largest one and live in the oldest one.

True, however what people feel seems to be like water off a duck's back for PiS.

They'll try to cling on in whatever way they can. It won't work out, however it will drag on.

This might end with PiS sitting in the Sejm pretending they are the government and all the other Posels holding an alternative parliament in the Sheraton

It seems PiS are determined to trash Poland's image for as long as possible but all they do is make Tusk look like a wise and patient man.

Yes, PiS staging are staging their typical comedy of errors, like they have always done before.

Let`s be patient. We have endured 8 years, we can 1 month.

And then - freedom for us, prison cells for PiS gangsters. :):):)

Not really. Young people realised that PIS is giving out benefits at their cost - one day it will be those young adults who will have to pay all the debts made by PIS. That is one of the reasons they went to the ballot en masse.

You mean the party that got the most votes? Technically that makes them the winner.

How about practically??? :):):)

Amasing how rightists are cheating not only on others but also on themselves. :):):)

Your total obsession with people of right wing tendencies shows you as the the Socialist and Communist sympathiser that you are....you may not be a Communist, but your Socialist views are too close for comfort,And in my opinion,Communists and Fascists row in the same boat.....