Polish Parliamentary Elections 2023

Here is an improved version of PiS thinking:

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@pawian

Stupid post.Senseless.

Did you expect something different? LoL

Milo and Joker telling the truth about themselves. AmaSSingly honest guys. hahahaha

One more memory about that time. Communists prepared a list of 35 top apparatchiks to be voted all over Poland - the so called nationwide list. Patriotic Poles were advised by Solidarity to reject it. So they did. All apparatchiks lost the ballot.

This year PiS prepared their manipulative referendum which was to attract PiS voters. Similarly to 1989, patriotic Poles were advised to reject it. So they did.

PiS and communists are the same gangsters.

I see a difference, PiS took power in free elections twice now. Communists have never been freely elected.

That`s a technical difference in procedures while I meant mentality. Kaczyński never grew out of communism despite his participation in Solidarity.

All he knew was the PRL and so he wanted to recreate it (with different slogans).

Another similarity. In 1989, communist secret service started destroying important documents to cover their dirty illegal activities. Papers were taken out and burnt.
Today PiS secret service is doing the same things, only their methods differ - they are using shredders and damage laptops.

I suggested PIS blackmailing opposition members two days ago. Today the rumour is growing that PIS services in fact spied on their opponents before the elections.

Those rightists are really dangerous scum, the new gov has to clean all institutions of PiS influence. To the bare ground. No mercy.

tvn24.pl/polska/byly-szef-cba-pyta-ministra-kaminskiego-o-kontrole-operacyjna-opozycji-komentarze-politykow-w-kawie-na-lawe-7403843

A comment which I especially liked: we escaped from under the blunt PiS sickle in the last moment.

Thanks for this write up - quite helpful!


This has happened countless times, in elections all across the world. Would be disappointing, if it happens here as well.


This is the problem, as I see it, with these mixed political systems which are prevalent throughout Eurasia. You get a million different parties, with rather marginal policy differences amongst them, but instead mainly defined by the personas at the top.

United Russia will probably not survive Putin and Medvedev, in the same way PiS might not survive Kaczynski.

It speaks to the political immaturity and primitivism of places like Poland and Russia, when your political loyalties are dictated primarily by your sympathies towards a particular guy rather than a dry calculation of where our interests as voters lie.

By the way, America is actually arriving at this point as well - after a good 200 years of acting as example to others of the advantages of a two party system.

What could possibly go wrong when people are elected on the basis of who they would want to have a pint with. I can't see anyone wanting to go on the lash with Kaczyński, from reading these posts it seems that PiS attract a load of private drinkers.

I am currently involved in industrial action and a rather nice Polish woman who admits that her family are all PiS supporters is strike breaking. She believes that the powers that be will look after her best interests...deluded.

The rumour is slowly evolving into certainty. One of the opposition politicians shared a text he had received from a befriended member of PiS secret services:

"Gazeta Wyborcza" obtained a copy of an SMS message with a warning that one of the officers sent to opposition politicians.

It reads: "Require that meetings that are important to you take place without telephones. They were given an order to knock out as many people as possible. This includes the fact that they will make the conversations available to the media. They were given impunity clauses. Some of the boys go to L4 ".

The news shows that the officer warns against taking phones to meetings important for the opposition. In turn, "the order to knock out as many people as possible" means - as the author of the material explains - that his superiors wanted to record as many politicians as possible.

The text message stated that the officers were also to make no secret of the fact that if something compromising was recorded, it would be released to the media.

The part about L4's dismissal refers to the fact that when PiS lost the elections, the officers involved went on sick leave. According to information from "Gazeta Wyborcza", those who did not want to follow orders but were afraid to refuse outright also took advantage of the exemptions.

Jagodno, a housing estate in the city of Wrocław, became famous both for its voters and a pizza restaurant located there. Amasing story.

This pizzeria in Wrocław became famous on election Sunday (October 15 this year). Although the polling stations were supposed to be open until 21, in some cities voting lasted until 3 a.m. And so it was, among others, in Wrocław, in the Jagodno housing estate. Several hundred people were stuck in line for hours. The Wrocław pizzeria Mania Smaku decided to make their waiting time more pleasant by providing 300 free pizzas.

- pizzeria employees who prepared additional pizzas outside their working hours explained on Facebook.

But believe us, we didn't do it to seek applause, but out of good heart and care for these wonderful people who decided to fulfill their civic duty above all else.

After the elections, the owner and employees of the Mania Smaku pizzeria received many signs of support.

Apart from the pizza outlet, the whole of Poland heard about the voters from Jagodno in Wrocław. But not only because they stood in line to the ballot box for hours, and the voting itself ended at 3 a.m. Also because this is where PiS suffered a spectacular defeat . In the Jagodno commission, 2,724 valid votes were cast, of which 1,186 were for KO and 162 for Jarosław Kaczyński's party .

Excellent! Those people, both pizza outlet employees and voters, are the salt of the Polish earth right now. Respect and hats off to you.

If you ever visit Wrocław, drop by Jagodno estate to eat the election pizza. The eatery is called Mania Smaku (Manic Taste) and is located at 15 ulica Racławicka (Racławicka Street).

businessinsider.com.pl/biznes/zjadlam-w-najslynniejszej-pizzerii-w-polsce-to-oni-karmili-wyborcow-z-jagodna/3t16968

I am waiting for another repetition of history - Tusk convincing some PIS members to join him, thus getting rid of the risk of their President`s veto on the new gov`s decisions.

That would be a stunt equal to Wałęsa`s genial move in 1989.

A good article which could be summarised:

Antiliberal campaign by PiS paradoxically ended with the rise of liberalism in Poland, supported mainly by moderate voters who had enough of PiS` autocratic agenda.

polityka.pl/tygodnikpolityka/swiat/2232474,1,krastev-dla-guardiana-kaczynski-znow-zrobil-z-polakow-liberalow.read?src=mt

That is why I am looking into the future with optimism. Those rightists won`t change their agenda and methods coz if they did, they would stop being rightists. Their antiliberal attitude will further antagonise decent Poles who reject autocracy. In result, PIS will never gain power again. Excellent!

I wouldn't be so sure about that. There is no shortage of political lunatics in the world. Moreover, they have not yet given up power.

The world is the world but Poland is Poland and lunatics have been defeated which is a good omen for the future.

@PAWIAN
kaczynski always wins, if not retire you old fool. let's wait til december.

Sadly, the public are that susceptible to well-executed PR.


Best wishes with that.


This is far from impossible

Of course, there are traitors everywhere, from all sides and all angles.

Yes, even when he loses, like lately. hahahaha


If he offers them a chance to join his party in the near future and promises he will support them at the next elections, I am sure a dozen or two reasonable guys from PIS will change the colours. They should know that PiS is going downhill very fast.

Having some PIS members on his side, Tusk will abolish President`s vetoes on his gov`s decisions.

that's why northern and western Poland voted for KO

I see you still can`t get over the results. :):):)

Sorry but I don`t pity you.

You had your fun twice: in 2015 and 2019. Now it it our turn to enjoy. HA!

I am just worried how much Tusk is going to harm Poland before he is stopped.

He hasn't even started yet. Give him a chance.

Certainly he won`t harm Poland after PIS has done it so extensively.

On the contrary, Tusk is going to clean Poland after PiS.

I have seen what he was doing 8 years ago. I don't want to see any more of this.

That's the thing. Every intelligent polak knows that TVN came out of FOZZ, ie the communists stealing the nations money after 'democracy' to start their own propaganda station.. Apart from that, every inteiligent polak knows wirtualna polska. wp.pl abd a few othwrs controlled by the the germans, and they have the gall, the balls to say something about tvp 'media balance ' the gov media ?1 wtf lolzo

Yeah TVP been biased as fuc*ked but let's not pretendi it wasin't the same before 2014.
Do I really want to bring up this infamous happy birthday to dear leader Tusk on TVP?